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It seems that increasingly RM providers include the whole package in their unlocked pix.  (If ya got it, flaunt it I guess.)  Really gives little incentive to pay for Premium (at any price point) when you can get most of what you need to know for free.

OnlyFans is the 10-ton elephant in the room. Many M4M Content Creators seem to prefer JustForFans, which is less restrictive about permitted content and how "co-stars" have to be IDd, although some post on both. The other wannabes are very small, can't vouch for them. You don't pay for anything until you follow someone, usually for 30 days, and it's easy enough to cancel the rebill, which I usually do as soon as I subscribe.  I've never had a billing problem with either platform.

It is like the proverbial box of chocolates, you don't know what you're getting until you bite into it.  However, most CCs charge about $10/month so the exposure isn't great.  Before subscribing, I always check the number of videos at the top, and scroll through the feed to see how often the content is updated (you usually can't see the content, but can see the dates of posts).  If a guy has 20 vids and hasn't updated in a year, he's probably not worth following.  The long game for CCs who are serious about making money this way is engagement, keeping the subscriber so interested in what's coming next that he renews.

IMHO both platforms provide a really poor user experience if used to stream the content. The Facebook-like chronological "wall" format is ridiculous, and the streams can be choppy and navigation slow.  I always download videos to watch them, but both platforms have begun to implement DRM protection on some feeds so this has become more difficult.

Most working pornies today have fans platforms, so you can search for favorites that way.  Almost all of the CCs I have followed were unknown to me until I encountered them "in the wild" (Twitter and Torrents and Tubes, oh my), so yes, Twitter is a good source of leads for this.  Obviously, taste in this is VERY subjective, but a few very productive CCs that I like are Mike Gaite, Seattle Dad, Daddy Lance, David-SF, Jonah Wheeler and Nate Stetson.

15 hours ago, Wanderoz said:

If only they did videos!

Dunno about the big guy, but stanchris can be peeked at  https://onlyfans.com/twinkstann

Saw him about a year ago.  He requires a phone conversation to book, and offers therapeutic or erotic options at different price points.  Erotic was spendy for sight unseen, so as a first shot I took the therapeutic.  He wore a loose tee and shorts so I can't say the body isn't as depicted, but my impression was his pix show a much better body than he has now.  I also found him really unattractive.  I don't know how to say that in a way that isn't judgemental, but I was really glad I booked the therapeutic because I had no interest in any erotic action with this provider when I met him in person.  We actually chatted about face pix (I usually send one unsolicited before a new meet) and he won't provide one in his ad or by request.

To the good, the massage was fine I guess, in a tiny but neat and clean space in Midtown West.  He's pleasant to talk to.  Would not repeat, though.

Welcome to the forum, ShaitanIblis

Account settings in JFF provide two options for onsite video player.  The default is JS Player.  I found that changing to the HTML5 player again allows downloads (for now).  The latter option apparently doesn't offer 1080p viewing/downloading, but rather defaults to 720p, which is fine for me. Can't say this will work forever, or even with all content, but for now I've continued my subs on JFF.

I messaged one of my long-time follows, one of the few subs I continue month to month.  He is incredibly prolific, content creation is a full-time job and it shows in his pro-level production. That is to also say that he is obviously thoughtful and deliberate in managing his online business.  He replied he didn't know anything about this change and would look into it. It seems strange that the platform implemented such a sweeping change BY DEFAULT and didn't clearly communicate its implications to content creators.

I have a few subs on OF (who don't cross post on JFF) and none has opted in to DRM controls, so for now yes, it seems OF is the way if JFF is just too much trouble.

I wonder if any progress has been made on restoring the space on 14th St (the 3rd floor, not MMX on the 4th floor) destroyed by fire in February.  Many bodywork freelancers used the facilities to meet clients.  The website does have current group events listed, but they all seem to be at other venues.

Has anybody met a provider or client there recently or heard anything about progress?

52 minutes ago, Pd1_jap said:

I think I'm just not going to see these guys again.

That is the way.  I wouldn't worry about getting into their heads for a story that reflects on you. There's no way to know that.  But they did not respond to simple, direct requests from you, and so underperformed.  Move on.  There are excellent providers out there, you just have to find them.

1 hour ago, DrownedBoy said:

I never knew that....

Yeah, that's one for the CoM Howler Hall of Fame, right there.

Yeah, that's weird, I can follow that link, fine, but if I back out to the homepage and Search by Name, or by Age over 50, or even just escorts in SF, he doesn't come up.

I must keep that in mind for using the app.

Thanks @jrhoutex I stand corrected.  Interesting that I can't find that profile on the "new" version of the site, it only appears on the old version ... no idea how or why that works like that.  As @Charlie posted, it does give his age as 61.  I can attest, though that the photos are reasonably accurate, the selfie as #2 is probably most current and included with the pro shots precisely for that reason.

20 hours ago, Charlie said:

The photos on RM, where he claims to be 61, were uploaded five years ago

@Charlie where are you seeing this?  He does not seem to be advertising on either "RM", Men or Masseur, and I don't believe he has done so in several years.  I'm quite certain he never "claimed to be 61," I believe his last birthday he turned 57, his memoir probably has a date but I can't be bothered looking for it.

As more-or-less the original "Dad" in gay studio porn, clients are hardly looking to meet a 30-something.  And like any porn luminary of many years, there are thousands of images of him out there taken over 2+ decades.  Time has certainly passed for all of us, and he would probably be happy to provide a current pic if that's of great concern.

I've seen him many times over several years, both for massage (which he's quite good at) and play sessions.  He is invariably fit, clean, sober and fully present, a big-hearted, blue-eyed cupcake with a mischievously dirty mind.  I only regret that he has cut back on travel since the pandemic, and I might have to go to SF to see him again.

2 minutes ago, smatt612 said:

It looks like Tumblr is allowing nudity again.

Yes I noticed that too.  I used to follow hundreds of tumblrs, most are long defunct, but some of my old follows still come up with last posts in 2019.  Interesting that that content, though verboten for 4 years, is still intact.  Thing is, we've learned that social media platforms have a life-cycle that's often quite short.  (MySpace anyone?)  New entries in the field push out the old ones constantly.  Various corporate handoffs, and finally Verizon's censorship of content was the nail in tumblr's coffin.  The user base has moved on and not coming back, and that IS the product.

I have to think the case study of tumblr was pored over when OF announced a few years ago that it was banning erotic content to much hubbub.  (It never happened.)

12 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

Is it "obvious" ? Or have we simply been conditioned to find it offensive ?

As a white person, I understand that my diktat of what is offensive about blackface is totally irrelevant.

11 hours ago, BSR said:

My problem with race-switch casting is it's always just in one direction. 

Insofar as that's true, it's for the obvious reason that it isn't a level playing field.  At all.  For ever and always, Caucasian performers have been hired to portray non-European characters.  If there's the teensiest tilt in the other direction, that's just how it goes.

To me, color-blind casting, as well as other kinds of "reimagining," can work or not, depending on the material, direction, style of production, specific performer, target audience, etc.  The concept isn't black-or-white, heh-heh.  But that's how it goes in theatre, opera, film, TV, etc.  Not everything pays off. 

On 6/18/2023 at 9:52 PM, Kippy said:

Call me silly...a black abbess in 1937 Austria?  It's a hell of a lot more than just a "good actress" performing a role.  Just a smidge of historical reality is needed to pull it off. 

A black abbess ... singing R&H showtunes with a full orchestra just offscreen.  Gee, the complexion of the performer just DESTROYS the historical accuracy of the piece!

All platforms work in different ways, you have to learn how to use them.

On Twitter you build a list of "follows" that have the content you seek.  Practically all porn/Fans creators have active twitter accounts.  You follow those that interest you, and they in turn will tend to re-tweet related content from other users/collaborators, whom you can also follow.  I follow thousands because that's how I roll.

I have no idea what you like, but you might start with  @jockedupgeek   @mikegaite   @joelsomeone1   @PizzaOtter726   @kingdwarfnyc

On Reddit, you join communities or "subreddits" which are interest groups, that are named with "r/" in front.  This is somewhat like joining groups on tumblr.  You can search for key words to find groups of interest, there are some astoundingly niche groups.  Some general ones you might try are   r/Beardsandboners   r/TotallyStraight   r/MaleArmpits  r/GayPorn_NSFW

You must of course register with the platforms for any of the above to work.  Note that both platforms allow multiple accounts by a single user, so you can sort your interests as you wish by creating different IDs.  I have a porn Twitter and and separate SFW Twitter, ditto for Reddit.

Twitter, Reddit

4 minutes ago, augustus said:

Yet some show their gratitude by targeting our youth and children and creating division.  Separating the child from the parent.  Medical experiments on minors. 

Again, what do your words even mean?  WHO is targeting "OUR" youth (and whose "youth") and children, how "creating division." When and where in this context are children being separated from parents.  And WHAT "medical experiments"?  You're just a bomb-tosser throwing words around without meaning.

9 minutes ago, augustus said:

Nothing to do with marriage equality or being gay.  There wouldn't be such a backlash if they would leave children alone.

Who is "they" and in precisely what way are any children being harmed by gay activism?

His nom de porn is Marc Giacomo, lots of "content" available online.  Incall location is Woodside, Queens, not Manhattan as stated in his ads.  Cancelled a 60-min massage appointment ($200) when I was literally on the subway to him, claiming illness.  YMMV

Hi WUAS, a locale would help to get answers.

Not the OP, but for the google-challenged ...

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8 hours ago, edinbrooklyn said:

Thanks! Do you think they’re legal in Europe? I’d try picking them up next time I’m there.

I can't speak to legality, I don't know.  And of course "Europe" involves many jurisdictions.  AND the whole question of "legality" is murky, as the chemistry can be tweaked to sidestep any outright bans.  The website listed above, as well as others, operate quite openly in Europe without a problem AFAIK. If you are there, perhaps visiting gay sex shops and having a convo with the handsome staff would glean some useful real-world information.

Stating the obvious perhaps, there ARE pro doms who advertise on the usual rentman sites. 

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It just takes sorting through and networking.  In my limited foray into the BDSM world some years ago, it was always stressed by veteran players that community and communication were key, whether searching for pros or playmates.  Anyone can hang out a shingle (or run an profile on RECON etc.), but the real deal takes a LOT of experience and talent to be worthwhile, and safe.