Shawn Monroe

Wow I never answered this. From my end it’s multi-fold.
 

Surely most of you have seen the “Massage Types I Offer” section of rentmasseur with the options “therapeutic” “sensual” and “erotic”. 

I have an idea, but I’m sure most people (outside the forum) don’t know the difference between “sensual” and “erotic”. So most providers will select all 3 so they show up in search results. 

also, sometimes clients aren’t always truthful. Some say they want a massage but they’re chasing you around the room in a few minutes. (This isn’t everyone!) 

ive even tried asking what site they found me on, but some have asked for massages off Rentmen and more off masseurfinder. 

last, as @Lance_Navarroonce said, the two go hand in hand. Many clients do want some of of both; the amount of both they want is a sliding scale. 
 

so as difficult as it can be to determine what someone is offering, it’s also difficult to determine what someone wants. The websites don’t make it easier. 
 

the best to do is ask if someone offers what you want. 

49 minutes ago, MCR said:

Most people who have a boss didn't choose to make $300+ an hour.

If you you made $300+ an hour and you had a boss, would you agree to take a pay cut from your boss if they asked. 

There are ways to get around this - I go to the gym at 6:30 am, so it’s out of the way. That being said, I can’t take appointments after 10pm to be ready for the gym. 
 

either way I’m agreeing with everyone here - routine and boundaries are important. 

When I was still working in office, my hours were set from 12-2 (for a lunch appointment if one came up), then 5-11. 

Once a client reached out and asked if I could meet “on my break time from 2-5” and I had to respond that I’m not just lying on the couch during that time; I was back in the office. 

just saying this to say that sometimes routine is important. Jumping at the chance to take any and every appointment can hinder other parts of your life. 

analogy aside, some do it in a completely tactless way. First message will be “hi Shawn - looking for an appointment. Do you offer discounts?”

What if your boss went to you and said “I know your salary is this, but we are going to pay you less, for no reason. Will you take it?”

He said “lurk this sub” like we aren’t here in broad daylight. I live. 

Yeah it really isn’t hard on both sides. To add to what everyone has said, COMMUNICATE WHAT YOURE LOOKING FOR AND DONT LIE. (Coming off that thread last week).  
 

17 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

Some places on the Internet are starting to block certain terms and Facebook will even put you in "jail" for a week for using offensive terms. 

This is because of SESTA/FOSTA. how quick we are to forget. 

This is probably one of those situations where I’ll get talked over and we probably won’t reach a common ground so I’ll see myself out. 

44 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said:

 

Which is why I always recommend hiring someone for an erotic massage. That's not illegal. If sex is available then that might be discussed IN PRIVATE between two consenting adults.

While true in theory, nothing is more difficult than trying to give a massage, and someone expecting more without talking about it beforehand. 

Or hiring a provider, they offer something you aren’t looking for (or the opposite). 

or not bringing enough money. 

nothing is worse than trying to provide something for someone and they don’t communicate what they want. 

Usually when people are looking to hire providers, they are assuming those that list on that site.
 

It is the premiere site to advertise and hire from. If you’re worried about the validity of the .men domain, you can use the other - Rentmen.eu (or rentmen.com which should redirect to rentmen.eu) but they’re basically the same site. 

My ads were off for a year, because I was going through significant health issues (still going through them but less now).

someone messaged me and said “great ad, but why has it been over a year since you’ve had a review?” 

Besides the health issues, reviews are SIGNIFICANTLY hard to come by unless you literally beg for them. So they’re not the be all end all. 

I can’t find the exact article, but it’s not just our services. Have you ever tried to give a 3 or 4 star review on Uber/lyft/whatever and they say WHY? So you’re pressured into leaving 5 starts so they leave you alone? 
 

anything less than stellar reviews impacts RMs business too, not ours. 

17 hours ago, Jarrod_Uncut said:

People have given advice, like @Shawn Monroe did.

And to be fair, I don’t always 100% agree with you on, but this is a topic I agree with you on. It *does* suck to be rushed out of a room at 11am (especially on a weekend, doubly so after Covid) and the only way I’ve found to deal with it is to book an extra night, spending $x amount of dollars - essentially gambling in the hopes it works out (and sometimes it doesn’t). 

it’s different when it is your livelihood. 

For me, I usually work in the nude, unless the client prefers otherwise. I also say that respectable mutual touch is encouraged.

many times it’s a comfort level. But other times, if you’re working in the nude, some clients can take that as an invitation to try to get YOU off for their entire appointment instead of enjoying their massage. 

I’m at the point where - especially if I’m driving - I’ll book my hotel for an extra day, with the intention of checking out by 2-4. If I go over it gives me peace. 
 

but currently the price of hotels isn’t going down. There’s not much to do right now except build points, and travel to cities in off peak times. 

This Is a hard question to answer, especially openly; most clients don’t want to pay more, and anything said that frames it like that would be seen negatively. 

in my opinion, what was lost with rentboy closing and SESTA/FOSTA passing was the ability to get our profiles seen by more people.

even though rentboy was already closed, when SESTA/FOSTA passed, men4rentnow closed, Craigslist closed down the m4m section, Rentmen started calling providers “pornstars” and all other weird shit happened that made things more difficult.  

i like to use the analogy of visiting a beach town (since I’m from Houston, it would be Galveston). There’s virtually no competition there, but seeing as they used to have a gay bar, there is probably some demand on the island or the mainland. We aren’t really able to run paid search, display, or social media ads, but getting eyes in front of people in smaller cities would be great so the only cities worth traveling to aren’t big metroplexes. 

Speaking from experience, doing this by yourself can be lonely and isolating. At the very least, having someone to travel, eat, and share the experience with can make it less so. 
 

even though he’s no longer available, Jeremy Davis (remember him?) and I did a few trips together (LA, DC, Seattle) he worked atlanta and stayed near me, and we would dovetail some cities; one would get in on the day the other was leaving, and we’d share a meal. 

I will also say that traveling can increase your demand on both sides - show your face to a new city, but also show your home city you’re not always available. 

One of those questions that can have a counterintuitive answer. It’s not always what you’d assume!
 

for me It's Memorial Day weekend. Particularly Friday. For may it’s the first holiday since new years. 

other holidays will vary. 

Other busy times will be when conferences are in town. Like americas mart in atlanta in January. 

some SAY Saturday night is busy but not really. And do you wanna deal with someone drunk and horny after the bar? 

anyway 

When I was first starting, I messaged every appointment thanking them and asking for reviews because it’s imperative to get reviews. 
 

i still reach out when I’m traveling, but after two trips I don’t hear back from them, I move to my “do not text” list until I hear from them. 
 

anything more is obsessive 

Being an escort and masseur is often times an exercise in judgement as it is a willingness to make money. 

I’ve been that guy and taken appointments when I was sick (don’t ask me about my most embarrassing night as an escort), but i, thankfully, didn’t have a post written about me in anonymous online forum.

i would have cancelled, and any adverse reaction from the provider would have said all you needed to know about his character. 

5 hours ago, Vin_Marco said:

This is my motto: 

This is THE motto. 

There have actually been posts IN HERE - from providers and clients - about charlotte. So this sentiment is definitely shared.