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Very well put @keroscenefire Also I thought it was normal for a virus to weaken and be less potent as it spread into a much larger population. I still wonder if this virus differs between Asia and Europe/US as the rate of fatality is so much greater in the latter.

I knew them before IG became popular. Just type Danilo in the search box on IG and you’ll see him. I know Simon had a lot of fake, and some fan, accounts. He has shaved his head nowadays so I find him less attractive - I like to have my hand in a young man’s hair when we are intimate.

I heard the story differently (and just confirmed with 2 online biographies): Toscanini was assistant chorus master when the orchestra was in dispute with the conductor, and he first conducted Aida at the Opera House in Rio de Janeiro on June 25 1886. The Teatro Colon is a beautiful building but sadly dilapidated in some areas. Some of the fixtures were stolen about 20 years ago. I attended 3 Opera productions that I found only so-so, but I heard Martha Argerich 2x in wonderful recitals there. She used to tour Argentina annually at her own expense, going from Buenos Aires to the other cities. I was introduced to her by 2 mutual friends and I learned that she only broke even on her annual trips tho she sold out the Colon each time. She stopped one year after the Orchestra of the Colon suddenly went on strike shortly before her tour was to begin. She personally lost US $100,000 on the venture, and vowed not to tour there again. I was amazed that the Colon musicians would be so short-sighted as to demand more money and try to screw over such a legendary talent. Only in Argentina...

I know 2 of those guys! The middle guy Is Simon (Danish, big dick, exhibitionist) And the bare-chested guy next to him is Danilo (Brazilian, extrovert and fond of ink). I wonder where that beach is - LA possibly? But I’d really like to get to know the attractive guy in the white shirt.

You sound as if you’re entranced already @Unicorn. He obviously wants money so why not send him a DM on Insta? And in case others don’t realise, he’s KingFred offering phonesex on www.niteflirt.com

Totally agree @MikeBiDude, NetJets is the best.

Happy memories! I met him about 15 years ago; a nice east European named Rado.

I agree with your enthusiasm for ‘Dead To Me’ @TruthBTold. I enjoy the dark humour and I’m gripped by Season 2 so far.

You’re being too hard on yourself @fedssocr1 Maybe these nice young men simply appreciate what an older man has to offer.

They had a tremendous reputation. I wonder what happened to them....

Not to disillusion anyone but Ignacio Pérez Rey is not a model. He works as an engineer for a firm in Madrid; I think his background is in electrical/mechanical engineering. He‘s definitely gay but rarely single. I met him at the Waterpark in Barcelona a few years ago when he was dating (a friend of a friend of mine, with a similar physique) David Castilla. Perhaps predictably they met at the gym.

Thanks for the heads-up @Cooper. I’ll watch it tonight.

Definitely! That’s the place I met the muscleboy. He was dancing on a podium in this huge space (an old aircraft hangar, I think). The club was named DC or DC10 IIRC

I’m surprised you saw it all @BgMstr4u I’ve only watched Episode 1 so far, and the show seems rather trashy. It did bring back memories of visiting the White Island in 2001-2003. I never went clubbing much but I recall fondly the night I went to a very big club by the end of the airport runway and danced with a near-naked muscleboy who was wearing just a speedo.

Maybe I’ve missed something here, but I don’t understand what you wrote. It’s usual for the client to pay all the costs including flights, hotel and meals. The fee for his time is separate. If you’re expecting him to arrange his own flights etc, you better spell that out exactly. You say @xyz48B that you’re comfortable discussing expectations but wondered how other guys handled it. I’d stress that you should spell out what you want to do on the trip and how you expect him to please you. There should be no room for misunderstandings. I believe in being flexible but you must be clear about what you expect as a minimum. FWIW I once planned a weekend with a muscleboy. We’d had several overnight dates before and got on well. He loved taking a hard pounding and he loved sucking cock. Perfect for me, and we had a great weekend BUT I‘m glad I spelled out my expectations before the trip! It turned out that he liked to douche before bottoming - this took him at least 1 hour in the bathroom. Also he told me my semen tasted fine, but he usually swallowed just his boyfriend‘s load. I said that on the Friday to Sunday I’d want to top him 2x and I wanted to be sucked off to completion each night. He was happy to comply. Moral is that if I hadn’t been specific and precise as to what I wanted, I’d have been very disappointed.

If you haven’t read it yet @sydneyboy, MF had a lovely obituary in The NY Times.

I agree with a lot of what @big-n-tall wrote, especially “communication with the provider is key”. l’ll follow his structure with my observations. (My experiences in hiring date from 8-15 years ago) I only did an overnight date after successful short dates (1-2 hours). Some guys are great in bed but not good at interesting conversation over dinner, so time can drag. If an overnight date went well, I’d suggest a long weekend (2-3 nights) next. And if the weekend dates were wonderful, I’d offer to take a guy along with me on a week’s overseas vacation. Just as when I travel with friends, I’d spell out what I had in mind to do during the vacation (see certain places or exhibitions, hiking, lie in the sun, swim/be on the beach, visit art galleries etc) I’d mention too things that are important to me, eg good food and sleep (I like to eat a big breakfast, have a small lunch and eat a good dinner with wine; I don’t eat fast-food and I don’t drink much alcohol; I like to sleep 7-8 hours a night and get up early). I mentioned this detail because I wanted to learn what the other guy liked to do. I can adapt and had successful trips with, among others, guys who like to run before breakfast, guys who like to workout late morning, guys who eat a large lunch, guys who like a cocktail before dinner with wine and a drink afterwards. I always offered some free time separately each day. You know it’s working well when the other guy says No, I don’t need to be alone. As for sex, I was very specific. I enjoy lots of kissing, making out, getting sucked off to completion and as I’m a top, fucking with condom. If I was really into a guy, I’d want sex 3x a day. I like to top a guy before dinner, say late afternoon then shower and dress for dinner. I realize a guy may not be in the mood for a hard pounding each day so I’d say that as long as I was sucked off to completion daily and I got to top every other day, I’d be happy. I had many such week-long (and longer) trips where I enjoyed sex on average 2x a day. I recognize that there is an element of “go with the flow” and “don’t over-schedule” but unless you are specific about what you enjoy and want to do, you may end up with a rather expensive vacation with someone you will not want to see afterwards. You did not ask about compensation @xyz48B I found it best to ask beforehand what fee was reasonable. Sometimes I was surprised at how little the guy asked for - I guess it was because the trip was to a high-end hotel in a desirable location or simply because the guy wanted a good holiday. I certainly never paid 7x the overnight rate.

Not fickle @xyz48B, discerning.

I don’t disagree @Quincy_7 but their dress was not my concern. Very high-end hotels are smaller places generally with excellent security. I preferred busy places where businessmen might stay as I didn’t want the reception/front desk to be difficult when 3 or 4 guys arrived singly to visit my hotel room. I‘d generally book a suite and say there’d be a guest joining me overnight. And if asked, which happened once in LA, I’d answer a couple of friends were stopping by for drinks.

It has been public knowledge in the UK for some time that the two main centers for medical science and epidemiology (Imperial College and Cambridge) are great rivals. I can believe that the statistical modelling is rather faulty because so much about this virus is unknown. It’s why I prefer to see a range of estimates, and actively distrust very precise figures - the Federal Government in Germany publishes the R-number daily and I doubt its accuracy.

If a client may respond to the OP, when I hired I enjoyed overnights with a nice guy. My formula was full sex on meeting, then a good dinner, shorter session before sleeping and receiving a blowjob before breakfast. I always preferred to host at my place as I could be certain of a very big bed, clean linens and large bathrooms. Escorts told me they liked my place. The only exceptions - using hotels - were when I had some group action or multiple play in prospect. I quite deliberately did not choose 5* hotels. My thinking was that it was easier for the working guys to be unnoticed if I chose good and busy 4* places that were well-located. As the host, I wanted to be able to organise room service liquor and wine and have housekeeping provide me with extra pillows and towels.

It may be of some interest to mention Sweden, which has been an outlier in Europe in regard to its policies (following the advice of the Swedish state epidemiologist). There’s a good article in The Spectator (a UK magazine) which I’ve set out below (as it has a paywall but I could not copy in 3 interesting graphs). The essence is Confinement is not a good way to manage uncertainty. Sweden has pioneered an alternative to lockdown – and it works 17 May 2020, 12:15pm Uppsala The culture of social distancing does strange things to us. A few weeks ago I got an invitation to an offline work dinner, and I can’t remember the last time I had such a sudden rush of joy. Even if life in Sweden over the past two months have been surprisingly normal, the truth is that we all have hunkered down a bit. Many of us have worked from home. The first two weeks, I admit, felt as life in remission – like a sudden gift of time. But then we all sunk into the apathy of having our life on hold. It felt pointless to plan for the future. A reunion with the colleagues became a distant wish. Meeting a work contact for lunch? Surely that’s only something for the privileged few. So getting that invite to a work dinner felt like I had secretly been given the password to attend a Roman bacchanal. The Swedish economy has finally started to un-Zoom itself. Bicycling lanes in Stockholm now feature the morning pelotons of commuters again. Carmakers like Volvo have opened up their factories and white-collar workers are gradually returning to their offices. Most workplaces have developed their own routines and protocols for Covid-19 safety – and, frankly, most of it is common sense: make it easy for staff to keep good hygiene and avoid having many people showing up at the same place at the same time. So there’s no hot desking. Those who cannot bike to work are allowed to come in or leave early so they can avoid crowded buses and tubes. Lunch boxes are delivered by restaurants to the workplace. Meeting rooms and common spaces are closed or furnitured around protective acrylic glass. Colleagues that have had coronavirus get additional responsibilities. At the Stockholm accountancy I use, one of the bosses who got infected in early March now manages the afternoon cake trolley. They call him ‘Mr. Antibody’ because he doesn’t relish the corporate fitness programme as much as the cakes he serve. It’s common sense attitudes like these that have made foreign observers to take a second look at the ‘Swedish experiment’. We’re no longer just the bad boy of corona – the jumped-up little country that refused to accept lockdown. Yes, we have observed social distancing, but individuals and firms have been allowed to figure out on their own how to practically organize things without having to shut everything down. So the real Swedish experiment has been about ‘behavioural change’: getting individuals to voluntary change their behaviour to avoid getting infected or spreading the virus to others. And it has worked. All this means quite a lot now. Swedes have had ten weeks of training themselves in how to live together with the virus. 'Sweden represents a future model if we want to return to a society that we do not have to close', says the WHO’s Mike Ryan. Most people in Sweden aren’t generally afraid of meeting other people or being in environments where the virus could spread: they manage the risks by keeping a social distance. Polls show that more than 50 per cent think they have had coronavirus or that they will get it; only 15 per cent think it’s improbable. Perhaps it is this attitude that have prompted so many around the world to think of us as reckless and foolish: we have, in our normalcy, become an ethnographic study object. But all the training we’ve had in sharing the society with coronavirus has taught us that it isn’t dangerous to leave your home or send your kids to school. People don’t have to fearful of living their life in a pretty normal way. Remarkably, seven out of ten Swedes think the future actually looks bright. Trusting people that they’ll take advice and change their behaviour have also had the desired result. Mobility declined, but not to a level that crushed the economy. The epidemic modelling did not factor in that people would react to a request. Swedish Covid-19 trends are pointing in the right direction. Fewer ICU beds are nowoccupied, especially in Stockholm where the number of patients in intensive care has dropped by almost 40 per cent since the peak. The daily intake of new intensive care patients is now in the low double digits. Thedaily death toll flatlined in the second half of April and, mercifully, has since been on a declining trend. And then we have the reproduction rate of the virus – the famous R number that now seems to command much of the British exit strategy. We’ve been warned by Neil Ferguson and others that Sweden’s R number is still in the region of 1.3-1.4 – meaning that the virus still spreads exponentially. However, the Swedish Public Health Agency gives a very differentestimate: the R has been below 1 since mid-April or so, and now stands at about 0.85. Excess mortality is still the bugbear for foreign observers who want to learn from Sweden. It’s also an issue for Swedes. Even if the time for comparing and making judgements about coronavirus mortality is a few years into the future, it is obvious that Sweden has a big scandal on its hands: it has failed to protect nursing homes against the virus. More than 50 per cent of all nursing homes in Stockholm have had infected residents. For the country as a whole, almost75 per cent of all Covid-19 deaths were residents at nursing homes or elderly with home care. Something has gone badly wrong. What’s going on here? Obviously, the Public Health Agency – along with other agencies – failed to understand the risk that staff could spread the virus in care homes. For a long time, nursing home and home care staff had no access to personal protective equipment (PPE), and once they got advanced equipment, few had been trained in how to use them. Swedish nursing homes also have many residents, and they come there at a very late point in life – so when a virus gets into the nursing home, it can infect many ‘elderly-elderly’ who are frail and have a poor immune system. Add to that failures of centralized medical procurement, for instance, or government complacency in building up capacity to test care workers. It’s no consolation that we share all these problems with other countries. It took us weeks and weeks to fix all these problems, and some of them still haven’t been adequately resolved. Boris Johnson doesn’t need a warning from Sweden about the risks of care-home deaths: Britain’s experience is actually worse. But he can learn from the Swedish example that people will respond to advice about social distance and change their behaviour. Boosting testing capacity is necessary, as is keeping track of the reproduction rate. But at some point Britain needs to take the plunge and encourage people to go about their lives. It’s understandable that many Brits don’t want to end the lockdown and expose themselves to greater risks of getting infected. There is so much that we don’t know about the virus. But confinement is not a good way to manage uncertainty. Just as people with opposing ideas can become political creeps when safe-space culture protects us from them, the world out there gets scary when we shelter in our homes for months.

I agree with the sentiments expressed by @EZEtoGRU But I quoted the part above as I’ve seen that comment before, and I wonder what is the evidence for it. During a period of hot and humid weather in Ecuador, there has been a large outbreak of Covid19 and many related deaths. The city of Guayaquil has even been described as “Latin America’s Wuhan”. There is much to see if you Google ‘Ecuador Coronavirus‘ but here’s one report https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8292391/Bodies-Covid-19-victims-lie-streets-Ecuadorian-city.html

Hear, tell?! I want to see photos or video @Pensant

Thank you for the info @DaveOrDavid @poolboy48220 @azdr0710 Truly, with the internet, you can always relive the past.