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Are the farm boys blond @keefer? And do they walk around bare-chested?

Please don’t be reticent @DrownedBoy Where is this?

Have you considered that you may be 5 years too late @marylander1940? My post was in 2018 😎

Actually that increase is just under 43%. But I don’t dispute your central point: the rate is what some people may charge and some people may pay.

I haven’t visited NYC in a while, so how about some reference points? I do recall that in 2019 I was routinely paying for dinner for two (good restaurant in Manhattan, 2-3 courses with wine and 20% gratuity) $240-300. And 5* hotel rooms in Manhattan were running at $500-700 a night. How much are those rates now? And with this thread (and others on the topic of rates), I looked back at my email history. I dated in 2007 a very hot muscleboy, early 20s in LA was asking (and getting - he was versatile and in demand) $350 an hour and $1500 for a full overnight. Also in 2013/2014 I dated a gorgeous, muscled cover-model a couple of times; he asked for discretion and $600 an hour. My point is that rates have always varied wildly…and now we have inflation in the mix. Please tell us more about this club (location, frequency etc)

Sorry I can’t help but you have good taste @RexB. He has a great-looking physique. FWIW in years past, I had various paying dates with guys in Australia. I always found Aussies to be very uninhibited in bed, eager to please and keen to deliver the agreed upon services. (I was told several times by Aussies that they liked that I was direct and upfront in saying exactly what I enjoyed and what I wanted to do) If you can afford the price @RexB, why not take him for a test drive? You may have a marvelous time.

The primary rule is to protect yourself, so get away fast. Or if it’s in your own home, get him out fast. It doesn’t matter if it costs you extra $ to extricate yourself from the situation. Nothing is more important than preserving your life and health.

Just wonder how interactive he, as a ‘straight’ service provider, might be… @Buckeyeseven Would you describe him as very gay-friendly?

Not an escort nor a current client. But I’ve known this to happen on dates with guys, sometimes in talk over dinner but more often in post-coital chat. I think some men are simply nosy. My answer is to smile in response to such questions. I then say “I’m happy to answer questions about myself but that stops at the bedroom door. Intimate experiences are private matters”.

Perhaps the OP has not been completely open with us about what he specifically requires. Perhaps he requires an escort/stripper/dancer (ESD) to glide smoothly as he incorporates the pole into his routine. Perhaps he wants the ESD to handle a certain thickness of pole. Perhaps he expects the ESD to be able to use a certain length of pole. Personally I’ve always found it very difficult to dance while disrobing, and I’m sure it’s even more difficult to perform sexually while stripping. It’s why I always enjoy my bottom removing my clothes before I top him. 😎

You baked him a cake for his birthday, and then he didn’t eat it? How rude!

Splendidly put. I wonder if I can get a stonemason to inscribe that on my headstone… I had the OP’s problem with 2 Italian-Brazilian men who shared an apartment. They advertised as working singly and as a duo. Both were very attractive physically so I hired each singly. I found I preferred one (Vincenzo) much more than the other (Ricardo). I topped both using condoms. Chatting with each in post-coital bliss, I found their views of their relationship varied. Vincenzo told me Ricardo was NOT his boyfriend; Ricardo said he was. I was discreet as Vincenzo told me Ricardo was a little jealous, and Vincenzo did with me certain acts that Ricardo said they didn’t do. For example, Vincenzo was very happy to suck me off to completion and he readily swallowed my load; Vincenzo also rimmed me, whereas Ricardo said they never rimmed. For the OP, my 2 cents are Hire the man you prefer as often as you like. Maybe hire both when you want a 3some, but first discuss with your preferred guy how it may go with the two of them. Or hire another guy when you want to play with the preferred man in a 3some.

I had several regulars over the years, tho I only hired when I was between boyfriends. Frequency varied a lot. I saw each regular at least 1x a week, generally for an overnight date. I recall one regular, a nice guy who didn’t want an overnight date, so in the first flush of lust, I’d date him for 1-2 hours 3-4x a week. I’d take my regulars on weekend trips at first. Once we’d established full compatibility, I’d invite a regular on an overseas vacation. One aside: I got to know very well a young man who was not only splendid physically but also very versatile in bed. He had wonderful reviews here. One night, he confided over dinner that I was his only regular - he’d been so surprised when he started working that so many clients always wanted variety (a new guy) and no matter how great the date went, his clients didn’t repeat.

Maybe an escort could call himself Brad Pi…and offer a recurring orgasm

Have you reached out to him at all @jojolaca ? Sometimes an offer to open a big thick wallet will cause a cute muscleboy to re-examine his options. Surely you owe it to Clayton to ‘expand his horizons’ 😎

I agree entirely. I’ve never understood why King Charles hasn’t stripped them of their titles and royal status. As ordinary folk, there’d be little or no interest in them; they could lead their daily lives without Press attention. They seek, however, to monetise their status but their behaviour is distasteful. “Leopards do not change their spots” was a saying my mother used about people behaving badly. Equally I don’t understand why they are accorded status, and their titles used, while living in a republic. It may be a courtesy but they are undeserving of such consideration.

The claims by Whining Harry & Grifter Meghan are absurd. I used to live on the UES and when traffic was bad, I’d often walk home after going to a play or a concert. There’s no way they could have driven at “high speed” from Midtown to wherever they were staying. As usual, the NY Post has judged it well…

Remember @shadowcatzxxx you’re not paying for sex. You pay him to leave. And as someone of similar age to you, I say Enjoy spending your disposable income while you still can.

This thread brings back memories. I was last there in 1998…so 25 years ago. I was there with an old friend and as I was just out of an LTR (14years), he was keen for me to “get back in the saddle”. I was in my 40s and chatted to a young man in his 20s. He was an Israeli who had just completed his military service. Surprisingly he had a car so we drove to my place on the UES and luckily there was a space in my garage. The sex was decent but not brilliant (my fault, I feel): he asked me to come not in him but on his chest, which I did. We cuddled after and he decided to clean up in the bathroom while I lay in bed. To my surprise, he returned from the shower with a warm washcloth and proceeded to clean me up lovingly. It was the first, and only, time that someone has done that for me. He was a very sweet man.

@Lucky I agree with @nycman I rank it as highly as a previous production of Streetcar I saw in London - IIRC in 2014 - which had Gillian Anderson as Blanche. That was a stunning production with thrilling performances by the lead actors.

Did you mean to reveal your ID this time @ThroatCummer?

Trust me on this: you are not, you are in the first flush of physical lust and romantic affection. And No, you don’t know - just because he says so may mean he’s polite or he’s from a different cultural background (Hispanic?) or he may be as giddy as you are. You haven’t said anything about your experiences and prior relationships. Perhaps you were rather alone (or lonely) before you met him. Also you haven’t said what country he’s from. I’d strongly suggest you go slowly. And in response to your questions: Take the time to get to know him fully. Stop paying him for his time (and services) and see how that plays out. Do not buy him an expensive gift just because you “make a lot more money”. Rather, you should get him a thoughtful gift (maybe a book he’s wanted to read) - something that shows you’ve listened to him and thought of him. See if he reciprocates. Bear in mind the golden rule - everyone behaves at their best in the early meetings - so see him in a variety of settings, watch how he handles other people, ask yourself if he’s kind, and check online that he’s honest (there’s a lot of information online so check that what he tells you is accurate and truthful).

I really enjoy ‘Beef’. I’ve recommended it to everyone I know. But like @jeezifonly I would not binge-watch it. For me, the greatest pleasure is to watch 1 episode per evening.

FWIW @jessmapex my approach was different. I first worked out what my level of spending would be for a comfortable retirement. Then I tripled it. That gave me my target retirement income after tax. It allows for inflation, tax changes, currency fluctuations etc. I also assumed I’d earn only 3% after tax on my capital. I suggest you do your own calculations and use modest or conservative rates of return as everyone spends differently and enjoys life in myriad different ways. Also everyone’s health and views on longevity will be different. You did ask about comparative spending. I’ve been retired for a long time, but in my 50s, I was very sociable. I dated a lot of nice young men and I spent readily. My annual ‘hobby’ (or wellness) spending peaked at about $70000 but most years it averaged $15-20000. I don’t regret it as I had a great time. Now I’m older, I still save (ie don’t spend all my pension income) and my investment income is automatically reinvested.

It’s sad that such a great and long-standing performer has died. I opened a topic on him in the Live Theater thread, but I thought I’d mention it here too as this has more visibility. I wonder if our Australian posters know whether Barry will get a State funeral? He truly was a national treasure. Moderator's comment - As you anticipated the topic in the Lounge has attracted all the comments, so I merged the two threads. Mike C.