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On New Year’s Eve, restaurant dinners are costly; those with “special menus” especially so. Hotel rooms are available but at a very high room-rate. And if I was looking for company on NYE (a major public holiday, when people are generally busy with friends or family) I’d expect to pay a lot of money. @Axiom2001 if you find this particular young man very attractive, I don’t consider his rate ($600 for 2 hours) to be high. Once, I hired a handsome muscleboy in LA. He had a terrific physique with only 4% body-fat, and he did all that I like in bed…and we went on to do it twice. His rate was $350 an hour/$1000 an evening - and that was 15 years ago!

Correct. I can recall meeting 3 such guys over the years. All were handsome, muscled, sexually versatile but with a rather masculine vibe in public. They were not actually in need of money. Being paid for sex, however, gave them license to perform acts in private that they’d hesitate to discuss in public. I still have the memory of a beautiful Italian muscleboy (rather prim and proper in public) just in his briefs and on his knees, “sucking all the cocks” as he’d said he’d do for a group, and taking various loads of cum on his chest and his face.

What a nice-looking guy! I congratulate you on your good taste @TorontoDrew When you met him this week, was he in the same great shape shown in his profile pics?

To answer the OP, I don’t see it as “a fantasy”. I’ve hired several men - all fit, young handsome guys with muscled bodies - who defined as ‘straight’. I never cared about what label people use or how they define themselves. I was only interested in their physical appearance and whether we’d be compatible in bed. I’m only ever a top. I always want to top a muscleboy. I also enjoy being sucked off to completion by a muscleboy who swallows my load. I enjoyed pounding the muscleboy’s butt and unloading in the muscleboy’s mouth. I checked they were ready to meet my needs and they checked what I would pay. My big thick cock was of little interest to them. My big thick wallet was what mattered. I assume my money met their needs. As it happens, I ended up with two ‘straight’ fuckbuddies at different times when I was between boyfriends. I saw both for some years. Both liked older men. One was a personal trainer who married and had a baby. Over the years, I ‘trained’ him. He went from giving a dry peck on the cheek as a greeting to becoming a passionate kisser with tongue. He told me how much he loved the taste of cum, and when excited and having his hole pounded, he’d say Fuck me, Daddy. The other had a stunning physique, a fitness model who claimed to have “girlfriends”. Naturally compliant, he craved cock and he became a real cum-hound. He’d want to drain me of several loads. Over time, I took him from shyly confessing his desires and getting naked, to stripping readily to service me (and other men) in group sex settings. He loved being desired by an older man.

The remedy is simple. Stop watching. If he talks about porn during your next massage, just close the subject politely by saying “Porn bores me. I’m so glad I see you in real life.” That ‘someone’ was Oscar Wilde.

I strongly agree with @CuriousByNature. And to my mind, a sense of entitlement doesn’t depend on nationality. What I cannot understand is why a woman in a well-paid job would have so little in savings (admittedly after buying ‘a new car’ and ‘braces’) that she’d worry about being out $370 for a few days.

That was only right @Coolwave35! Being psychic, she’d have spent the money before she met you.

It’s your business @Jarrod_Uncut, you are free to charge whatever you want. Hotel rooms do indeed vary very widely in price. Those in desirable locations and those with attractive amenities command a higher price. And, as you’ve noted, there is seasonality in demand. Personally I prefer 4-5* hotels. I’m very loyal to particular hotels where I get excellent service, my likes and dislikes are known, and my whims are catered for. Also I get a much better room-rate than a casual visitor. How all the factors behind the hotel business and pricing will translate into your business model, I do not know. I wish you well. Doubtless you will inform us over the coming months how this works out for you.

Actually this is not that recent a phenomenon. I think it was 15 years ago that I learned that a major airline had a 24/7 crisis line for its staff who got into any such trouble. An executive of the airline surprised me by saying that a great number of incidents occurred in the US (Chicago was a particular hotspot) and that the majority of callers (victims of these assaults) were men.

@mike carey is correct in his supposition. There are only 31,000 hotel rooms in Qatar. Also, Qatari society is conservative; hence the alcohol ban. Staying in Dubai - a short flight (or longer drive) away - offers more nightlife, restaurants etc with alcohol available in the hotels. An unfortunate choice of words. There are undoubtedly many fit young men who go to Dubai at this time of year for the Winter sun…and the ability to earn money discreetly. Some define themselves as personal trainers, some as actors and models, and some may also be escorts. But I emphasise that discretion is paramount. Public displays of affection and being dressed skimpily are frowned upon. Hotel restaurants will serve alcohol to foreigners but getting drunk is very much a no-no. It’s merely an anecdote but some years back, I heard from a friend that a fellow member of our gym (an escort) was indiscreet on a visit to Dubai and became involved in an argument with his local client. I don’t know what, if anything, happened to the client. I do know that our fellow gym-member was arrested and held for some hours prior to deportation. Consular assistance was NOT forthcoming.

Did you mean to send more @Coolwave35? Now I appreciate why you spend money on parties with hot male strippers - it’s so much more rational 😊

Could it possibly be that he thinks you’re an out-of-state stalker @Unicorn? And that may be a further problem @Unicorn He may have heard of your formidable reputation for onanistic behavior and not wish to be masturbated over. He’s an “influencer” (as you acknowledged), not a paper towel 😎

As you’ve only met him once before, do NOT send money. If you want to make a charitable donation, send it to a reputable charity. No, you’re not heartless. You’re simply being sensible.

Don’t say “sorry” @Dchan In my view, you’re not asking enough questions. My answer, not his: Yes because it’s easy money…if a gay guy wants to suck me off or just gets pounded in the ass by me You can ask but what do you do if he does not comply? If he cleans his teeth after smoking and uses mouthwash, you may not notice it. Whether it helps is your decision and yours only. Personally I’d be more concerned about his limitations and saying ‘Kissing/Depends’ would be a deal-breaker for me. Have you politely discussed your specific desires and wishes with him in advance of your date?

Not at all. You’d be completely safe PROVIDED you do nothing that could be deemed gay. I’m thinking of the European guy who, walking through a busy bar, brushed against the butt of another man. Displeasure was voiced, police summoned and the European was arrested and jailed. Heterosexual couples kissing on the beach have at times also been arrested.

He never advertised so he didn’t view himself as an escort 😎 We see each other very occasionally now “for old times sake”. He’s still handsome and has a great body…but strangely has never found a boyfriend.

Yes. I’ve managed that a few times. One of my favourite positions for topping is missionary. I like to interlace my fingers with those of the bottom, and then pin his arms down above his head as I pump his butt. It’s a great visual when the bottom has no control and reaches orgasm and cums all over his abs. Once I had a weekend date with a guy from LA. He’s the most prolific hands-free ‘cummer’ I’ve ever seen. One morning, I was topping him before breakfast and I hadn’t pounded him for long when he started to orgasm like a fountain. My favourite bottom tho is an English muscleboy. Blond and with a perfect body, he was my ‘friend with benefits’ for some years (I put him through his university studies and professional qualification). He not only came hands-free when being topped, but he also came hands-free when he was sucking me off. As my load hit the back of his throat, he would orgasm without even touching himself! When I saw this the first time and asked him about it, he said he couldn’t control himself; he loved sucking cock and he loved the taste of my cum. I think that’s when I fell in love with him.

I hope @robberbaron4u that by “dealing with”, you mean you’re consulting with a good criminal lawyer who can advise on this problem? I doubt you’d be called to testify. But Federal charges could follow. I’m sure you’re smart enough not to lie to or mislead the Federal agent - the electronic record of his flights and who paid would still be available. Perhaps you can evidence that he was just a friend whom you invited over to stay for a week.

I recall that you’ve speculated about Dubai and muscleboys before, @Unicorn I’ve no idea why you’re so fascinated by the lives of those men, whose photos you jerk-off to. @pubic_assistance is quite correct: money is the key. Certainly, I know the brother of an Emir is gay. I guess muscleboys, personal trainers and models may get lured by the prospect of big money from closeted Arabs…but the smart and rich Arabs play abroad in Europe and the US, rather than at home.

Run, don’t walk…away from him

IMO @robberbaron4u is correct. If this is a genuine idea, rather than a piece of complete nonsense, start crossing the globe yourself @moothrough There is no “regular arrangement” and there is no “usual practice”. Certainly, if you are very rich and already have a house in a desirable location, you could invite escorts. You only have to pay for their business-class flights and offer an upfront flat fee of $10,000 to the men you fancy. This idea reminds me of the scam where some Middle Eastern guys would offer large sums to escorts to fly to Dubai for a “special party”. Strangely, there were always difficulties with the advance payments but they always offered later reimbursement.

If I may, as a client in the past, comment, I’d say you definitely did NOT have a date scheduled @NYCgymfitNEW Otherwise, why did the provider query it? In these circumstances I would pay NOTHING to the provider. My only small criticism of you is that you might have responded to the query straightaway, saying Sorry, my plans are being changed by my boss so I cannot confirm yet. I still hope to see you if I’m able to be there. I wouldn’t worry about the provider’s anger. It seems to me that possibly he was taking his business-frustration with others out on you.

The US, Australia and the UK. I first approached a salesman and said we were unsure about the size. I explained I would pay for a small and a medium of each product in any event but we needed to try them on. If it was a good fit, I would then make a bulk purchase. No-one ever objected and we did our shopping.

I’m shocked @mike carey, shocked! You talk of comfort while I talk of the allure of a muscleboy in skimpy expensive briefs or jockstrap. Also, you are depriving yourself of the considerable pleasure of shopping with a handsome young man. The goal is to please him so that in turn he pleases you by looking even more attractive. You also talk of chain stores, such as Bonds perhaps? (Non-Australians may need to know this is similar to Target). On my 3rd visit to Australia, I met a very nice muscleboy: in bed, I told him to get “rid of those” when he undressed to his Bonds briefs. Afterwards, I took him shopping to David Jones (similar to Barneys) where we purchased Emporio Armani & Versace briefs for him - I recall that back then the underwear in Australia cost about 2.5x the US price! The muscleboy expressed his appreciation frequently during the rest of my stay, and he later appeared on the cover of DNA.

Oh Yes. Many times. I’ve always had an underwear fetish. When I undress a nice guy for the first time, I prefer to find that he’s sporting tight white briefs. When I was single, I dated quite a few handsome muscleboys. Taking them shopping for good and expensive underwear was a great pleasure for me. We’d discuss the merits of various brands and the fit of briefs versus jockstraps. On a couple of occasions, in the changing rooms of department stores, I got so aroused that the muscleboy gave me a blowjob. Most often, we had an erotic time at home: I’d insist the young guy model his new underwear for me, and I’d get so thick with lust that we had to go to bed.