DrownedBoy

Oh God, I read this, and it sounds a bit too "all my best friends are gay men". ?

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Agreed. Kissing is important to me, but I've had a self-described straight guy refuse to kiss after I specifically ask if it's okay beforehand. Not fun.
 
Personally, I believe gays who chase after straight men have issues they haven't sorted out yet. And that self-described straights who _do_ kiss and bottom are really bi - they're just catering to this audience. Either way, it's a scene I prefer to avoid.

Falling in love with an escort is just about as naive as:
1.) Thinking that devoted salespeople in high end retail are your “friends” (they send all of the customers that make them money birthday and holiday cards and make sure they get “special privileges” to new collections and first dibs on shipments”
 
2.) Thinking that your employer cares about you. They care about your work benefitting their bottom line.
 
Sorry to be a “Danny Downer”, but much of our “relationships” in life are transactional. It’s all a give and take.
 
So if an escort makes you feel so good, that you’re falling in love with him, enjoy the feeling, understand that it’s not real, and that he’s excellent at his profession.
 
Personally, I don’t believe in the concept of “falling in love”, at all.... but that’s for another time to discuss...

Falling in love with an escort is just about as naive as:
1.) Thinking that devoted salespeople in high end retail are your “friends” (they send all of the customers that make them money birthday and holiday cards and make sure they get “special privileges” to new collections and first dibs on shipments”
 
2.) Thinking that your employer cares about you. They care about your work benefitting their bottom line.
 
Sorry to be a “Danny Downer”, but much of our “relationships” in life are transactional. It’s all a give and take.
 
So if an escort makes you feel so good, that you’re falling in love with him, enjoy the feeling, understand that it’s not real, and that he’s excellent at his profession.
 
Personally, I don’t believe in the concept of “falling in love”, at all.... but that’s for another time to discuss...

I once paid 400 for a one-hour fetish session with a straight bodybuilder. It was the most I ever spent for a single session, and I'm afraid to say, it wasn't worth it.

Reading you apologize for "extensive downtime" is like hearing a doctor say, "I'm sorry it took me so long to save your life."
You are my hero?, and no apology is needed.

I'm a muscle fan, but the younger the muscle, the better. Major twunk fan.

I'm a muscle fan, but the younger the muscle, the better. Major twunk fan.

I'm a muscle fan, but the younger the muscle, the better. Major twunk fan.

I'm a muscle fan, but the younger the muscle, the better. Major twunk fan.

I just wish I could find younger, clean shaven massive bodybuilders. Beards are all too common. Not to mention straights who won't kiss.

I once paid 400 for a one-hour fetish session with a straight bodybuilder. It was the most I ever spent for a single session, and I'm afraid to say, it wasn't worth it.

What would we say if our attorney, doctor, hairstylist et cetera charged us $300.00 hourly then asked us for Uber reimbursement?
 
Some escorts and clients have lost focus on reality.

I strongly prefer providers who handle it themselves, even if it's with an increased fee. You ever order someone an Uber, then send screen shots so they know the car and license plate? Or have a provider miss the car (since they're not paying, they don't care about cancellation fees)? PITA. I'm not paying, as someone said, to be someone's social secretary.
 
If a provider is from out of town, I prefer they adjust their fees accordingly.
 
It's a hard stop for me if someone agrees, then only later demands an Uber. I just cancel- that's the same as demanding extra money at the last moment. Common scam.
 
Also, extra Uber fees should only be for established, reliable escorts. I've encountered kids with no reviews who think they're worth 300 plus Uber. One of them thought that if he held out, I'd get horny and agree to his Uber an hour later. Cute.
 
As far as "cheap" is concerned- how many times has someone said it? If I pissed away my money like that all the time, I wouldn't have money to hire. And it's more about my self respect than the money.

I strongly prefer providers who handle it themselves, even if it's with an increased fee. You ever order someone an Uber, then send screen shots so they know the car and license plate? Or have a provider miss the car (since they're not paying, they don't care about cancellation fees)? PITA. I'm not paying, as someone said, to be someone's social secretary.
 
If a provider is from out of town, I prefer they adjust their fees accordingly.
 
It's a hard stop for me if someone agrees, then only later demands an Uber. I just cancel- that's the same as demanding extra money at the last moment. Common scam.
 
Also, extra Uber fees should only be for established, reliable escorts. I've encountered kids with no reviews who think they're worth 300 plus Uber. One of them thought that if he held out, I'd get horny and agree to his Uber an hour later. Cute.
 
As far as "cheap" is concerned- how many times has someone said it? If I pissed away my money like that all the time, I wouldn't have money to hire. And it's more about my self respect than the money.

I strongly prefer providers who handle it themselves, even if it's with an increased fee. You ever order someone an Uber, then send screen shots so they know the car and license plate? Or have a provider miss the car (since they're not paying, they don't care about cancellation fees)? PITA. I'm not paying, as someone said, to be someone's social secretary.
 
If a provider is from out of town, I prefer they adjust their fees accordingly.
 
It's a hard stop for me if someone agrees, then only later demands an Uber. I just cancel- that's the same as demanding extra money at the last moment. Common scam.
 
Also, extra Uber fees should only be for established, reliable escorts. I've encountered kids with no reviews who think they're worth 300 plus Uber. One of them thought that if he held out, I'd get horny and agree to his Uber an hour later. Cute.
 
As far as "cheap" is concerned- how many times has someone said it? If I pissed away my money like that all the time, I wouldn't have money to hire. And it's more about my self respect than the money.

I strongly prefer providers who handle it themselves, even if it's with an increased fee. You ever order someone an Uber, then send screen shots so they know the car and license plate? Or have a provider miss the car (since they're not paying, they don't care about cancellation fees)? PITA. I'm not paying, as someone said, to be someone's social secretary.
 
If a provider is from out of town, I prefer they adjust their fees accordingly.
 
It's a hard stop for me if someone agrees, then only later demands an Uber. I just cancel- that's the same as demanding extra money at the last moment. Common scam.
 
Also, extra Uber fees should only be for established, reliable escorts. I've encountered kids with no reviews who think they're worth 300 plus Uber. One of them thought that if he held out, I'd get horny and agree to his Uber an hour later. Cute.
 
As far as "cheap" is concerned- how many times has someone said it? If I pissed away my money like that all the time, I wouldn't have money to hire. And it's more about my self respect than the money.

I strongly prefer providers who handle it themselves, even if it's with an increased fee. You ever order someone an Uber, then send screen shots so they know the car and license plate? Or have a provider miss the car (since they're not paying, they don't care about cancellation fees)? PITA. I'm not paying, as someone said, to be someone's social secretary.
 
If a provider is from out of town, I prefer they adjust their fees accordingly.
 
It's a hard stop for me if someone agrees, then only later demands an Uber. I just cancel- that's the same as demanding extra money at the last moment. Common scam.
 
Also, extra Uber fees should only be for established, reliable escorts. I've encountered kids with no reviews who think they're worth 300 plus Uber. One of them thought that if he held out, I'd get horny and agree to his Uber an hour later. Cute.
 
As far as "cheap" is concerned- how many times has someone said it? If I pissed away my money like that all the time, I wouldn't have money to hire. And it's more about my self respect than the money.

I’m guessing they do it because they can. When a critical mass of clients stop paying for Ubers, then perhaps providers will stop making that request.

I’ll make you a deal. When the in/out rates are the same, I’ll pay for an Uber. What is the higher out rate for if not to compensate for travel?
 
But, you do you. If you’re comfortable paying extra for an outcall plus footing the transportation, have at it.

Definitely overthinking things. If this is a fantasy: "they are just pieces of meat lying there for me to perve over" ....it's fair game. Actually anything is fair game as long as it's consensual. Escorts are in business to provide a service to their clients and help them live a fantasy. If as a client you want to get what you want out of the experience, it is incumbent on you to clearly communicate what you want. And then do a little homework to be sure they will deliver. If you communicate nothing before or during the experience, your provider will be befuddled, feeling around in the dark as it were. Suggest you clearly communicate the scenario you are looking for as part of the selection/booking process, you will have fewer disappointments. Good luck PS this hobby IS objectification, that's the point so try not to fret about it.

Reese too.

I’ll pass. Far more beautiful places to visit than a searing coastal desert filled with architecture that looks like something out of a 1950‘s comic book. Just sayin’

I smell Catfish cookin'...