DrownedBoy

All I can say is: I was young in the days before social media or cell phones, but all the (gay) guys I hung out with always knew which guys were selling it, or had a sugar daddy, or who had a sugar boy. So it won't stay unspoken long.

I wouldn't have enjoyed Ravelstein as much if I hadn't both read Bloom's COTAM (reread it right before Ravelstein) and known his history and reputation at U of C.

I've read quite a few books on Alexander too, as well as other documentaries, and he was either gay or on the gay end of bi. He definitely had a romantic relationship with his best friend Hephaestion - he went apeship when Hephaestion died (the funeral mentioned above was so big even some modern historians were confused on why he did it), and drank himself to death shortly afterwards. And yes, Richard the Lionhearted was probably gay, and Frederick the Great wrote himself that he was. Then again, these conquerors weren't always shining examples of humanity.

Thanks for the heads up. Last time he was in Chicago, I considered hiring him. My busy schedule was a blessing in disguise.

Like others said, I try to arrange my sessions so there's wiggle room. I tried hiring a guy right before an appointment, and told him that, and he still showed up 20 minutes late. I'm also a looooot more tolerant if my regulars are running late. My regulars are all very punctual, so I know it's beyond their control, and they do text me. Radio silence for 20 minutes or so, after the appointment time, will result in me texting them and cancelling the session. One time a guy went radio silent, then claimed it was because he couldn't find my place, and left 30 minutes early since he considered that "part of the session." I rubbed in the review I gave him on RM.

I and my regulars use that technique too in my condo building, passing them off as Grindr hookups. Gay or straight, they just nod and leave me alone. Some of them actually are Grindr hookups; luckily, nobody has grilled me on the differences in appearance and age between the hookups and the hires.

You're supposed to mention Rentmen (or Friendboy, etc.) when you initially text them. I'm very careful when using the number given online, but luckily, I was never given a wrong number. I just say "saw your ad on RM," so that if the guy's 80-year-old grandmother sees it, I can make something up.

In my area, overnights can range from 1000 to 1500, although I've been quoted higher by visitors. I don't think it's worth it. Many escorts tell me an overnight is less than 8 hours, or that they wake up at 3 am. I've tried overnights before, but I wouldn't do it again. Personally, I need to be very close to someone before I can fall asleep in their arms. And I won't even mention conversation.

If I contact a regular, I usually ask, "as usual?" If a regular raises their price and waits until after the session to tell.you, you need to drop him. EDIT In my experience, good regulars lock you in at the original price. I only had one regular who (twice) raised his price, and it eventually ended badly. When it's a new guy, I always repeat the amount of time and amount when asking for the final agreement. The oral contract is made if he agrees.

This isn't a court of law. You should get information any way you can.

I've seen RM go down on numerous occasions, even reverting back to the old page at least once during the past week. Standard web app problems, especially since RM probably doesn't have many software engineers.

"Drug related offense" is way too vague. If he got arrested for using drugs, ignore it. They should all be legal anyway. But if he hurt/robbed/raped someone while high....you get the idea. Like @APPLE1said, it's public record. Don't tell anyone unless it's something serious.

"Guts" is just another way to say intuition ,street smarts, and unconscious desire. Always go with your gut.

I'm sure that if escorting was legal, a mega-corp would find some way to force everyone to go through them. Somehow.

I agree. I don't believe RM messenger is as encrypted as it should be. I think it's just an unwritten rule - RM for basic info, and texting for actual hiring.

I had a provider who, right after coming in, suddenly started saying, "Is there anybody else here?" and opening the door to my bedroom, etc., that's off limits to providers. Entitled little brat - I told him to stop immediately, and after that he's off my list forever. Asking is one thing; intrusion is another.

This. All the "good economic news" that was (until very recently) going around only revolved around Wall Street and stocks. In reality, small businesses in America are still suffering badly. We're finally seeing the consequences of this.

Ask them

I was mistaken. Jordan and Valentin don't offer threesomes, only 4 handed massages. Glad to hear you enjoyed being with one.

He passes the collection plate...

There's no way around texting them, unless they specifically mention it in their ad. Unless you have someone specific, so other New Yorkers can chime in.

No...I mean the exchange goes like this: "What is your donation for 1 or 2 hour sessions?" "300 an hour" This always happens, as if the kid didn't bother reading the whole text. Which is why I started, after getting the hourly rate, to offer the 500/2 hour, which as everyone here has noted, is pretty standard.

Also, I'd suggest reporting the provider to RM, with those texts and proof of payment. Cons are all over the place. Best advice is to back off if you get a weird vibe from someone. This week I actually texted a new RM, and could tell from his words and tone that he was probably a con. However, he was also from Bronzeville, so I had a forewarning.

I can't even imagine, as a EDIT client, being that unclean. Before I see an escort, I always take a shower and specifically make sure my posterior is clean, even though I don't bottom for escorts. I also make sure to brush my teeth and use mouthwash when the provider arrives, and actually keep mouthwash out in case my mouth gets dry. A person who doesn't keep themselves clean lacks self-respect and/or basic manners. I know some men (especially older men) can be careless about this. They probably figure that since they're paying, they don't need to be considerate to providers or masseurs.