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I frequently use the word "provider" because it encompasses both masseurs and escorts and there isn't always a clear distinction between the two.

I frequently use the word "provider" because it encompasses both masseurs and escorts and there isn't always a clear distinction between the two.

I frequently use the word "provider" because it encompasses both masseurs and escorts and there isn't always a clear distinction between the two.

I'll be blunt (I frequently am):  You think that hiring an escort for oral only is a "bit of overkill" but isn't hiring a masseur for oral sex the reverse?  That being said, a lot of guys advertise as masseurs yet it's clear they are actually doing sex work, and a lot of guys advertising on Rentmen focus on massage.  I don't think any masseur that I hired whom I asked if more was on the table for an additional fee were offended, but I definitely received a lot of "no" answers along with many "yes" answers with an indication of how much more compensation they expected.  And, as I have posted previously, I have had numerous experiences where masseurs went a lot further with me than I anticipated.
I guess my advice is that as long as you aren't hiring men off websites where it's clear they are not offering gay-male focused massage, you should feel comfortable asking for what you want.  Just don't be a jerk about it and expect escort-lite experiences for the same price as a rub-and-tug.

I frequently use the word "provider" because it encompasses both masseurs and escorts and there isn't always a clear distinction between the two.

I frequently use the word "provider" because it encompasses both masseurs and escorts and there isn't always a clear distinction between the two.

I frequently use the word "provider" because it encompasses both masseurs and escorts and there isn't always a clear distinction between the two.

I'll be blunt (I frequently am):  You think that hiring an escort for oral only is a "bit of overkill" but isn't hiring a masseur for oral sex the reverse?  That being said, a lot of guys advertise as masseurs yet it's clear they are actually doing sex work, and a lot of guys advertising on Rentmen focus on massage.  I don't think any masseur that I hired whom I asked if more was on the table for an additional fee were offended, but I definitely received a lot of "no" answers along with many "yes" answers with an indication of how much more compensation they expected.  And, as I have posted previously, I have had numerous experiences where masseurs went a lot further with me than I anticipated.
I guess my advice is that as long as you aren't hiring men off websites where it's clear they are not offering gay-male focused massage, you should feel comfortable asking for what you want.  Just don't be a jerk about it and expect escort-lite experiences for the same price as a rub-and-tug.

I frequently use the word "provider" because it encompasses both masseurs and escorts and there isn't always a clear distinction between the two.

I think what he meant is that people are posting stuff like, "He is sexy" without even identifying who "he" is.  When there are multiple names mentioned prior to that post, then the post is meaningless due to that lack of specificity.  This happens on a lot of online forums.  Unless each poster specifically identifies what their comment refers to, a thread can become a bunch of meaningless posts.

I frequently use the word "provider" because it encompasses both masseurs and escorts and there isn't always a clear distinction between the two.

I had the reverse happen to me.  A provider was apparently so turned off about a little bit of poop (and I mean very little -- there wasn't anything visible on his sheets, just a small amount on my ass) that he ran to the shower without telling me his intentions, then returned several minutes later fully dressed, asking for full payment, and telling me to leave.  I've posted this story in more detail here before, but needless to say I didn't pay him his full fee since (a) we probably spent at most 10 minutes together in bed after he insisted on spending several minutes smoking pot after I arrived and (b) even if he didn't want to continue fucking me, there were many other things we could have done.  I gave him part of his fee, told him off, and left.
There's an interestingly amusing sex ed series on Wow Presents Plus that features two of RuPaul's Drag Race queens (Miss Vanjie and Cameron Michaels) and a sex therapist.  I still remember what the sex therapist said during an episode devoted to anal play: If you cannot handle an occasional accident, then you shouldn't be doing anal play.  Not that it isn't important for a bottom to try to be as prepared as possible, but someone who freaks out along the level of what I dealt with should surely not be sticking his dick in anyone's ass.

I'll be blunt (I frequently am):  You think that hiring an escort for oral only is a "bit of overkill" but isn't hiring a masseur for oral sex the reverse?  That being said, a lot of guys advertise as masseurs yet it's clear they are actually doing sex work, and a lot of guys advertising on Rentmen focus on massage.  I don't think any masseur that I hired whom I asked if more was on the table for an additional fee were offended, but I definitely received a lot of "no" answers along with many "yes" answers with an indication of how much more compensation they expected.  And, as I have posted previously, I have had numerous experiences where masseurs went a lot further with me than I anticipated.
I guess my advice is that as long as you aren't hiring men off websites where it's clear they are not offering gay-male focused massage, you should feel comfortable asking for what you want.  Just don't be a jerk about it and expect escort-lite experiences for the same price as a rub-and-tug.

I'll be blunt (I frequently am):  You think that hiring an escort for oral only is a "bit of overkill" but isn't hiring a masseur for oral sex the reverse?  That being said, a lot of guys advertise as masseurs yet it's clear they are actually doing sex work, and a lot of guys advertising on Rentmen focus on massage.  I don't think any masseur that I hired whom I asked if more was on the table for an additional fee were offended, but I definitely received a lot of "no" answers along with many "yes" answers with an indication of how much more compensation they expected.  And, as I have posted previously, I have had numerous experiences where masseurs went a lot further with me than I anticipated.
I guess my advice is that as long as you aren't hiring men off websites where it's clear they are not offering gay-male focused massage, you should feel comfortable asking for what you want.  Just don't be a jerk about it and expect escort-lite experiences for the same price as a rub-and-tug.

I'll be somewhat of a Debbie Downer and insert this reality check lest some readers assume that every "masseur" is going to engage in oral sex with them. If you know you want more than a massage, communicate with the masseur in advance about what his services include.  Some guys really just do massage, and some others do massage with a happy ending that's limited to masturbation.  Don't assume that every masseur will let you rim or suck them or that they will do that to you.
I have hired a lot of guys who advertised as masseurs who ended up having oral and anal sex with me, but I'd never assume that someone with only a masseur ad is open to that level of engagement.
To answer the question in the first post, I'm not concerned about cleaning out my mouth after rimming someone but I only rim guys when I have no sense that there's a cleanliness issue (i.e., no bad smells or tastes).  If I'm not satisfied that he's extremely clean, I don't put my tongue anywhere near his hole.

I guess I'm still stuck on one thing I read in this thread: For an overnight a client would rent a separate hotel room for a provider?  Unless the client simply doesn't like to sleep with anyone, whether that be in the same bed or the same room, I don't understand hiring someone for an overnight but then having them not be with the client.  

I guess I'm still stuck on one thing I read in this thread: For an overnight a client would rent a separate hotel room for a provider?  Unless the client simply doesn't like to sleep with anyone, whether that be in the same bed or the same room, I don't understand hiring someone for an overnight but then having them not be with the client.  

Baldness is hot on the right guy.  The problem is that not everyone has the right head shape and facial features to carry it off, and the lack of hair can turn an average looking guy into an unattractive guy.  Worse, however, is someone who tries to hide the fact that he has a large bald spot by doing a comb over or having long hair on other areas of his head.  Bald or extremely short hair always looks better than someone trying to hide his bald spot.

Baldness is hot on the right guy.  The problem is that not everyone has the right head shape and facial features to carry it off, and the lack of hair can turn an average looking guy into an unattractive guy.  Worse, however, is someone who tries to hide the fact that he has a large bald spot by doing a comb over or having long hair on other areas of his head.  Bald or extremely short hair always looks better than someone trying to hide his bald spot.

State and federal laws are two different things. If you are flying internationally, federal laws apply and that means 18 or older.  
Let's keep this discussion to 18+ for the forum's sake please, at the very least.

It doesn't matter what the minimum age in those countries is if you are a US citizen. If you are traveling outside of the US, keep it 18 or older regardless. 

I still remember walking halfway up some guy's steps (he asked me to call when I was near) and him opening the door to reveal a man probably 20 years older and 50 pounds heavier than I anticipated.  I told him as I turned around that I was unhappy that he wasted my time by misrepresenting himself.  He actually had the nerve to clap back at me, I guess because he's used to guys just following through with the appointment or paying him for nothing, neither of which I intended to do.  If it's just a matter of the reality doesn't quite live up to my fantasy, I will likely continue with the appointment.

My issue with your first paragraph is that you seem to be saying that it's reasonable for a traveling provider to hide his face so he isn't added to a vast database for facial recognition but it is okay for him to just use some other man's face so he is added to that database instead.  Maybe that's not what you meant since you also mentioned blurring their faces and cropping photos, but the part about not immediately rejecting someone who doesn't use his own photos just caught my eye.  I previously would have agreed with you -- if the guy who shows up more or less resembles the photos, I wasn't upset.  Now I just see it as someone who is willing to create potential legal problems for someone else he doesn't even know in order to make things easier for himself.  There's no way I'd willingly support that kind of behavior.

Baldness is hot on the right guy.  The problem is that not everyone has the right head shape and facial features to carry it off, and the lack of hair can turn an average looking guy into an unattractive guy.  Worse, however, is someone who tries to hide the fact that he has a large bald spot by doing a comb over or having long hair on other areas of his head.  Bald or extremely short hair always looks better than someone trying to hide his bald spot.

I'm sorry, but the name is a total turn off.