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Commenting on the part of your post that I bolded, I'm always perplexed when I come across ads like that. I mean, even if a guy is looking for extremely wealthy clients do those clients want someone who's more focused on getting material things versus what they can provide to the client? I would think not unless the client wants to be "dominated" financially. How many clients are into fin-dom?

I agree. I mean, is it possibly true? Sure. Maybe the guy was more of an escort than a masseur, and the client paid accordingly. Or maybe the masseur was just turned on by this client and wanted to fuck him silly. Doesn't mean anyone else reading the story would get the same "treatment" even if they could identify the masseur, so in the end the post should just be treated as jerk off material (assuming it turns you on; the story actually didn't do much for me).

Just curious, not that you have to answer to me: This guy's ad indicates he's a top, but it sounds like you're more interested in being a top as well. Do you typically not pay attention to that information in an ad and just hope that the guy will accept you putting things in his ass (even if it's just your fingers)? I'm only asking because it doesn't seem fair to me to criticize an escort who lists either "top" or "bottom" in his ad whose behavior in person is consistent with what he advertised.

I rarely say anything because it doesn't happen that often, and just as I don't like being with a provider who is a clock watcher I don't want to be a client who is a clock watcher. By that I mean a few minutes extra or under, not half the appointment time. The only time I remember speaking up was with a traveling guy who went to end the appointment after I came relatively quickly (in under a half hour); we ended up chatting a bit and then playing around a bit more and still ended up only using 45 minutes of the hour. Needless to say I didn't hire him again even though he obviously turned me on (or I wouldn't have reached orgasm so quickly).

I find that there are threads on the LPSG website about a lot of Only Fans providers, so I do a Google search for the Only Fans provider's name + site :www.lpsg.com before subscribing to anyone. If I read reviews that state that everything of substance costs an additional amount, I don't subscribe. Yes, I've still been burned a few times with guys who either posted almost no content or who only posted photos and brief j/o clips, but I'm generally successful at picking out the ones who are worth a month's subscription. Rare are the men who post enough good content consistently to keep me subscribed beyond my initial subscription period.

I loved the original series, thought the "Jumping the Broom" movie wasn't very good, and not sure what I'd think of this movie based on the clips shown in that preview. I'll check it assuming it moves from Showtime to basic Paramount+ at some point.

I agree that it's best to not have any expectations going in beyond what the provider advertised. That being said, when "erotic" was a category on Rentmasseur I did expect at the minimum a manual release. The few times I hired guys who advertised erotic massages but only provided unskilled therapeutic massages I certainly felt like I had been "had" given the rate I paid.

That's the way Rentmasseur works unless (a) you are logged in and (b) you are a paying member. Are you saying you are a paying member and can see the photo in smaller view but not when viewing the larger photos? If so, I've never noticed that the few times I've paid for a month when I wanted to view private photos.

I'm pretty sure we've had this discussion before, but just to chime in again with my perspective: It also turns me off. I guess I wouldn't necessarily write the guy off based on one photo of him flipping off the camera if everything else in his ad appealed to me, but when I see photos like this they generally seem to be attached to ads that reveal an attitude that doesn't appeal to me.

If you're calling an escort using a burner phone, do you not actually have a number that can be used for a call back? As a client, I wouldn't book an escort if I couldn't actually call him to confirm, and I would think many escorts would prefer to confirm they have a way to call the client if something goes wrong and rescheduling is necessary. Oh, by the way, if you weren't interested in convincing me of anything you could have just let my original post stand without telling me that my suggestion was not "realistic" and then offering allegedly "more useful" suggestions. The reality is that the links you posted have nothing to do with whether to answer the phone but rather how one should respond if they get a call that could be suspicious. I personally prefer never to speak with those people in the first place by letting the call go to voice mail, at which point they typically don't even bother leaving a message.

The only people I can think of who cannot afford to just ignore unknown numbers are people using that phone number for business. If it's a personal number, why not just let everything go to voice mail unless you recognize the caller? I learned to not even swipe to reject the call since that lets the spammer know that your number is active because it rang once or twice and then disconnected. Fortunately my phone allows me just to turn it face down when I get a spam call that isn't blocked, which causes the phone to stop ringing but the call isn't disconnected until it's connected to voice mail. Yes, I know that connecting to voice mail is also an indication that the line is active but my personal experience with rejecting calls is that the same number (or a very similar number) would call back repeatedly in a short period of time.

Or just don't answer your phone when the call is from a number you don't recognize, even if the number has been spoofed and the caller ID looks legitimate. If the call is legit, they will leave a message. If the message sounds scam-y, just delete it and block the number.

According to IAFD he's in his early thirties and began his porn career in 2011 (I scrolled through his list quickly but didn't notice anything prior to that year).

Maybe I just got lucky with my Craigslist hires, but apart from the stuff that still goes on (over promise and under deliver) I never ran into problems such as outright robbery or someone threatening me. I actually did the majority of my hiring off Craigslist in the 2000s until whenever they stopped allowing such ads. I'm not saying there was anything magic that CL did that enhanced security. I think it's just that there were fewer scammers because it was still a more niche activity.

Seems like this question is coming up a lot lately. The short answer is, no, it isn't "safe" hiring from Rentmen if by "safe" you mean that the owners of the site actively work to remove fraudulent providers. It's definitely a "buyer beware" type of situation and it's on the client to protect himself in the manner outlined by some people above (using a burner number, not hosting, sticking to providers with a good reputation). It's sad because 25 years ago you could generally "trust" not only sites like Rentmen (actually, I don't think that site existed then, but I'm pretty sure Rentboy did) but also Craigslist. I hired a lot of guys who had no reviews and only a couple of times encountered outright scammers. I don't know how guys break into the business now. There have to be some clients willing to give new providers the benefit of the doubt, but I'm not one of them.

A "friends and family" transfer of money is not protected by PayPal's fraud protection program. Just accept that you made a mistake and lost whatever money you sent this guy. You can notify PayPal that you got scammed, but I assume that someone who is using that platform to scam people like this will just create a different account if they get reported so I'm not sure it's worth the effort. Also, do you want to be in a position of having to explain how a "friend or family member" stole money from you when it really was a stranger whom you were hoping to have sex with? I wouldn't. As to warning people here, that's helpful to others in the short term, but it's so easy for scammers to change identities online that it's not worth a lot in the long run.

I agree. I've certainly gotten some perks (extra time, etc) from a few of the guys I hired the most, but I never posted that on the forum or included it in a review. I considered those expressions of appreciation to me as a frequent customer, not something that provider was necessarily going to offer everyone. It's on them when and if to communicate some "bonus" to a repeat customer. I will add that most guys that I hired more than once never offered me anything extra; these extras only came from providers I had hired many, many times over more than a year, which means a small amount of men for me since I rarely found someone I wanted to hire more than a couple of times.

I'm not saying it never happens, but masseurs rarely top their clients. Why not look for a top escort in your area?

It's well known that Rentmen aka Rent.men cares more about ad revenue than anything else. They will remove outright scam ads, but only upon pressure from outside parties after they jump through a lot of hoops to prove the ad is bogus. It's very easy for anyone to place an ad on their platform in order to scam people, at least in the short term. By the way, if you can edit your thread title it would help it make sense. I was wondering if you found an alternate site that added an "a" to the end of "rentmen" and were asking about the legitimacy of "rentmena."

I stand corrected...sort of. Your original link goes to the brand's website. I scrolled through a lot of different underwear photos and didn't see that particular photo nor a photo of any other model wearing either that same pair of undies or a pair of undies with a label that looked identical. But I can see on the link you just posted (for those who don't want to scroll through another bunch of underwear photos, the direct link to the photo in question is https://us-fbcloud.net/picpost/data/398/398532-6731ce8d46005.op.webp )that the pair of underwear is identified as "The Pack." Funny that in all of the effort to identify the underwear I didn't even notice that the model is porn performer Marbys Negretti aka CallMeMrKent.

The label shown in the first post doesn't look like that brand. Maybe I'm mistaken, but I thought the azdr0710 was trying to identify the specific brand of underwear worn in the photo, not just recommendations for underwear brands that have options that look similar. There are a lot of brands that make similar looking undies.

Yes, you can hang out somewhere on Market Street to watch the parade. You can walk around the festival in the Civic Center area. I don't know who is going to be on the main stage; it's usually a mix of people talking about specific issues and some musical performances. The bars in SoMa are typically busy starting mid-afternoon. I'm sure there are specific parties happening, but I'm so old I'm checked out of it all.

If it were me, I would simply reply to their question -- e.g., I'd say "I'm interesting in hiring you for a 90 minute massage on either July 4th or 5th" or whatever it is. It seems like that's more likely to result in him actually traveling to your area, assuming he gets other interested clients, than you questioning why his travel schedule is contradictory. But that's all if you actually intend to hire him. If you're just attracted to him and trying to figure out what his "game" is, I'd just drop it. He could very well be doing what you think (gauging the market to see if it's worth a trip) or he might just be marketing himself generally (e.g., trying to get OF subscribers).

A masseur having a different price for a therapeutic massage versus an erotic massage makes sense. I even think that someone adjusting his rate depending on what the client requests makes sense. The more the client's requests veer into escort territory, the more a masseur should charge. That being said, I am put off my ads that get far too granular about this. I don't want to see a $20 additional fee for underwear off versus on, and so on. As to sandwiches costing the same, this really isn't true once you get beyond certain condiments. You typically will pay extra if you want avocado or bacon, for example, if they aren't already part of the sandwich you're ordering. Ultimately this isn't a regulated business. If a client doesn't like what the masseur has to offer at the rate requested, then he can look elsewhere. If a client wants more than the masseur wants to provide, he can decline the appointment. We all know that it isn't like every masseur (or even every escort) runs his business the same way.

Oh, I'm sure he's been discussed here or on the previous site, but I know he advertised under a different name before. Gay men who have been in San Francisco for a long time may remember his entrapment charge decades ago (as I recall, he responded to a request from someone in the East Bay and was arrested there) and also his repeated candidacy for the Board of Supervisors and some other political offices as a Libertarian. I don't want to violate any forum rules, so I won't post the name he has used for his political ambitions (but there is a Wikipedia page about him). He has been, however, transparent about his sex work when running for office so I'm not sharing any secrets here. I used to see him at the gym regularly about 20 years ago and he looked like the photos in his ad now. I have no idea what he looks like now, and I never interacted with him so I cannot say anything about his personality.