Decatur Guy

I live in NYC and I would say that I envy gentlemen who live in London. I always find the most young attractive providers who appeal to my particialr tastes in that ( lovely ) city.
 

It’s hard to envious (not to mention humble) when you already live in the Greatest City in the World.
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I envy New York as they always have hot guys plus they get really hot travellers.  On the down side I'd be broke.

US City envy... no. City in another country... definitely yes. There are so many incredibly built guys listing as bottom/vers bottom/versatile, the type of which in the US, tend to list as ask me or top.
In the US I can bring people in to see me or go to them if I choose. My biggest issue here is time followed by costs. Bringing someone from overseas or going to them is an impossibility mostly. Time and costs become a even bigger problem. Dealing with an unknown person from another country ups the drawbacks for me even more.
I only have brought in one guy from Argentina, but we had met in the US and have a long standing client/provider relationship. So it made it easier. Especially since I knew who I was seeing when I opened the door.

If only there were a handy resource to find guys working as escorts in a given city where they describe the services they provide, their attributes, and post photos and videos.  It would be so easy for someone to post some examples of what kinds of guys they were interested in.  We could call it lease.guys or timeshare.dudes or something like that.

It's rather chickenshit and unprofessional to ghost/block you. But otherwise, be glad you didn't spend over a thousand dollars to find out they aren't into you. Better your ego get bruised than your wallet take a pounding.

Here's where I stand as client and this is my general routine/perspective:

I like to have a little bit of pot before the session starts and have poppers during the session (if I'm bottoming or even deep throating).

I will ask the provider if it's OK if I do poppers during the session. Usually they say yes. A few say no, and I respect that. I realize that for some people, the smell is too much even if it's not right on their nose. I won't inflict that on them if it bothers them.

If they have really large dicks, I'll usually back out of the anal part, see if they'll bottom or back out of the appointment altogether. (That's rarely happened). If the dicks are just above average or average, I can take the fuck without them. And I'll add here I skipped poppers on Andrew Justice's request once and took a medium-hard fuck from his big dick and lived to tell about it! So it's doable.

And I'll ask if it's OK if I do pot if I'm doing it during the session, and I'll offer to share. If the provider prefers I not do the pot, then I don't. Usually they join me in the pot if I do it at the start. I don't bring up pot if I'm doing it before we meet and it's put away. I don't do enough to affect basic polite behavior. I just find it relaxes me, puts me in the mood and makes my lips more attuned to a dick.

I've pretty well quit drinking. I used to keep some beer and liquor on hand to offer providers. I've quit doing that but more out of laziness and dropping the buying habit than any opposition to someone having a drink or two at the start. Plus my regular providers rarely want anything more than water. 

I offer tops Cialis if they want to take one or two when they first arrive. About half say yes. 

I don't PNP with hard drugs. I don't want to get with a provider who is doing it during the session or just beforehand. If the provider does it afterward or well before, I consider that his business, not mine. I have hired people at times who list PNP as an "into" or mention it once in their ad. I'm not 100% consistent on that. A lot depends on gut feeling, the overall vibe of ad and contact and frankly just how horny I am. If the interest seems passing or they are more of "OK if you do," there's a chance I might hire the person even though I'd rather not see the PNP on there at all. I find that straight men are more likely to want to PNP.

I've never had a truly bad incident as in things spinning out of control, but I have had a few times when the hard drug use by the provider beforehand definitely dampened the entire session. I don't rehire in those cases. I once had a regular who contacted me at my place zonked out of his mind after a bad PNP session. Because I knew him over a period of time and like him, I got him some help that day but wouldn't let him inside my place. He cleaned up his act, he apologized a few months later and we went on to several more very hot sessions before he dropped out the business.

If There's some provider who does sTuff jusT like This wiTh capiTal T's all over The place, I don'T conTacT That guy To sTarT wiTh. ThaT's jusT asking for Trouble.

It's rather chickenshit and unprofessional to ghost/block you. But otherwise, be glad you didn't spend over a thousand dollars to find out they aren't into you. Better your ego get bruised than your wallet take a pounding.

I chuckle at the irony of this discussion - which to me seems ultimately an attempt at moralizing, shaming, virtue signaling etc.
We are on a forum that exists solely because of a common interest in a hobby that is legally problematic in most of our geographies and socially frowned upon almost everywhere. And that’s before we even get to that man on man stuff that’s also apparently involved.
 

It's rather chickenshit and unprofessional to ghost/block you. But otherwise, be glad you didn't spend over a thousand dollars to find out they aren't into you. Better your ego get bruised than your wallet take a pounding.

It's rather chickenshit and unprofessional to ghost/block you. But otherwise, be glad you didn't spend over a thousand dollars to find out they aren't into you. Better your ego get bruised than your wallet take a pounding.

I see these as the building blocks of a good ad, though these are flexible suggestions depending on the provider and what kind of clients he wishes to attract (mostly geared to RentMen):

PHOTOS: I'd say around 12 to 18 ideally. Make each picture count. Suggested breakdown:

Face (if you're willing to put your face out there at all): 3 pics, with at least one smiling.
Clothes shots: 4 pics, ideally one or two really nice clothes. A must if you're courting really high-end clients. Then a couple in casual wear.
Shirtless: 1 or 2 shirtless shots with just shorts or underwear
Tourist/outdoors: 1 or 2 shots in an outdoor/natural/tourist setting
Underwear: 1 to 3 HOT underwear pics that give a hint but keep mystery
Nudes: 6 or so nudes. Emphasize dick if a top or top/vers. Ass if bottom or bottom/vers. Equal amount if both. But even tops should give a butt shot or two. And reverse for bottoms.

Rotate new pics in every 9 to 18 months. I'm OK with seeing a few pics from three or four years ago, but most of them should be relatively recent. Some pro/studio work is fine, but I'd like to see a few amateur ones, too. Don't do 100% selfies. Get someone to take some for you even if you don't get a pro. Some clients might be glad to help with that.

VIDEO: Always nice if you have a few. It's always good to see a top in top action or a bottom in bottom action or a verse in both, if they're available. Very few people do this -- I guess for privacy reason -- but a one-minute intro voice video is a huge seller for me. But I realize that isn't a big thing for a variety of reasons.

TEXT OF AD: Ideally, it's at least 150 words. These really short ones don't work well. Even if reading between the lines, possible clients should have a decent idea what you're about. Be straightforward and friendly. I really dislike not knowing if it's just massage or massage and more or just more. The ad should be in full sentences and spelling and grammar count. If someone has English as a second language, say so. A decent client will be understanding. Be truthful to the stats and change them as needed. Set a friendly and professional tone in the ad. It's fine to set few stipulations but don't get carried away with that. In the "likes" area, don't go wild there. Just check the ones you really like.

If you're a total top or total bottom, just say so. It might cull the client list, but it will save time. AND sometimes that's a turnon to the remaining clients. A listing of "versatile" should truly be that. Use the #hashtags to good advantage with common words and spellings.

Here's a possible ad that hits some of those notes above. Just change the details as needed:

Hello and thank you for looking over my ad. I was raised in the desert Southwest but make New York City my home base now. I can do only outcalls in New York City, but I can do in and out while traveling. I am available for weekends and overnights with advanced notice. While I prefer a day's notice for hourly sessions, I can sometimes meet for day-of appointments.

I'm a versatile top with a very strong preference for topping (but open to the right pitch for bottoming). I specialize in what I call the "aggressive BF experience" but I can go rougher or more gentle depending on what you like. You let me know and we go from there.  Like to worship a man's feet? Head to the front of the line! I come from Hispanic heritage and speak some Spanish, but it's not my first language. I enjoy traveling, jogging and pasta is my food weakness. 

I present and expect clean hygiene. Payment is for time only and can be cash or _________. I can reply to RM messenger, but I might be faster with text. After we've established contact, I can usually do a brief phone call, especially when meeting for the first time.

I enjoy all types of men, so don't be shy. I have 8 solid, uncut reasons why we should meet up, and you'll enjoy taking each one of them under advisement! I'll arrive with a smile and hope to leave you with one.

__________________

Anyway, I hope some of that is helpful.






 

It's rather chickenshit and unprofessional to ghost/block you. But otherwise, be glad you didn't spend over a thousand dollars to find out they aren't into you. Better your ego get bruised than your wallet take a pounding.

It's rather chickenshit and unprofessional to ghost/block you. But otherwise, be glad you didn't spend over a thousand dollars to find out they aren't into you. Better your ego get bruised than your wallet take a pounding.

It's rather chickenshit and unprofessional to ghost/block you. But otherwise, be glad you didn't spend over a thousand dollars to find out they aren't into you. Better your ego get bruised than your wallet take a pounding.

It's rather chickenshit and unprofessional to ghost/block you. But otherwise, be glad you didn't spend over a thousand dollars to find out they aren't into you. Better your ego get bruised than your wallet take a pounding.

It's rather chickenshit and unprofessional to ghost/block you. But otherwise, be glad you didn't spend over a thousand dollars to find out they aren't into you. Better your ego get bruised than your wallet take a pounding.

It's rather chickenshit and unprofessional to ghost/block you. But otherwise, be glad you didn't spend over a thousand dollars to find out they aren't into you. Better your ego get bruised than your wallet take a pounding.

Here's where I stand as client and this is my general routine/perspective:

I like to have a little bit of pot before the session starts and have poppers during the session (if I'm bottoming or even deep throating).

I will ask the provider if it's OK if I do poppers during the session. Usually they say yes. A few say no, and I respect that. I realize that for some people, the smell is too much even if it's not right on their nose. I won't inflict that on them if it bothers them.

If they have really large dicks, I'll usually back out of the anal part, see if they'll bottom or back out of the appointment altogether. (That's rarely happened). If the dicks are just above average or average, I can take the fuck without them. And I'll add here I skipped poppers on Andrew Justice's request once and took a medium-hard fuck from his big dick and lived to tell about it! So it's doable.

And I'll ask if it's OK if I do pot if I'm doing it during the session, and I'll offer to share. If the provider prefers I not do the pot, then I don't. Usually they join me in the pot if I do it at the start. I don't bring up pot if I'm doing it before we meet and it's put away. I don't do enough to affect basic polite behavior. I just find it relaxes me, puts me in the mood and makes my lips more attuned to a dick.

I've pretty well quit drinking. I used to keep some beer and liquor on hand to offer providers. I've quit doing that but more out of laziness and dropping the buying habit than any opposition to someone having a drink or two at the start. Plus my regular providers rarely want anything more than water. 

I offer tops Cialis if they want to take one or two when they first arrive. About half say yes. 

I don't PNP with hard drugs. I don't want to get with a provider who is doing it during the session or just beforehand. If the provider does it afterward or well before, I consider that his business, not mine. I have hired people at times who list PNP as an "into" or mention it once in their ad. I'm not 100% consistent on that. A lot depends on gut feeling, the overall vibe of ad and contact and frankly just how horny I am. If the interest seems passing or they are more of "OK if you do," there's a chance I might hire the person even though I'd rather not see the PNP on there at all. I find that straight men are more likely to want to PNP.

I've never had a truly bad incident as in things spinning out of control, but I have had a few times when the hard drug use by the provider beforehand definitely dampened the entire session. I don't rehire in those cases. I once had a regular who contacted me at my place zonked out of his mind after a bad PNP session. Because I knew him over a period of time and like him, I got him some help that day but wouldn't let him inside my place. He cleaned up his act, he apologized a few months later and we went on to several more very hot sessions before he dropped out the business.

If There's some provider who does sTuff jusT like This wiTh capiTal T's all over The place, I don'T conTacT That guy To sTarT wiTh. ThaT's jusT asking for Trouble.

Client POV: First of all, it's great you ask clients their perspective. That puts you way ahead of the game of many providers. I was definitely nervous the first few times I did hiring. But I wasn't a newbie to gay sex, so that helped a lot. I guess I had a drink or two to relax, thinking back on it (don't drink now). But just enough for a buzz. I don't like to be too far gone for an encounter like that.

I still get nervous sometimes meeting someone for the first time, especially if he isn't reviewed or is a particularly large guy (body size or cock size). But the nerves are just standard -- they don't interfere with the session. Sometimes I've had providers who were nervous, and I just try to make them feel unthreatened and take things at an easy-going pace.

It's rather chickenshit and unprofessional to ghost/block you. But otherwise, be glad you didn't spend over a thousand dollars to find out they aren't into you. Better your ego get bruised than your wallet take a pounding.

It's rather chickenshit and unprofessional to ghost/block you. But otherwise, be glad you didn't spend over a thousand dollars to find out they aren't into you. Better your ego get bruised than your wallet take a pounding.

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Client POV: First of all, it's great you ask clients their perspective. That puts you way ahead of the game of many providers. I was definitely nervous the first few times I did hiring. But I wasn't a newbie to gay sex, so that helped a lot. I guess I had a drink or two to relax, thinking back on it (don't drink now). But just enough for a buzz. I don't like to be too far gone for an encounter like that.

I still get nervous sometimes meeting someone for the first time, especially if he isn't reviewed or is a particularly large guy (body size or cock size). But the nerves are just standard -- they don't interfere with the session. Sometimes I've had providers who were nervous, and I just try to make them feel unthreatened and take things at an easy-going pace.

The meeting was held. And I was impressed. Definitely put me in the "do see him" column. He's friendly, sexy and even better looking than his pictures. Gorgeous eyes.