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Bullshit. It's REALITY. They are useless.

What!!! You mean that: They're not getting participation trophies from their bosses? They aren't able to "do anything and nobody can't tell them otherwise"? The grades that they got to avoid lawsuits against the school, and threatening their teachers didn't pay off? Their feelings can get hurt in the workplace? Shocking that gentle parenting and "positive reinforcement" in education doesn't seem to be working. (just in case, I'm being sarcastic)

I agree that particularly with first-time clients, showing up with signs of being sick might not be the best idea. The opposite is also true. As a client, I learned not to show up sick (I posted an experience where the masseur said that it was ok to com see him while I was still not feeling great), and to cancel until I am feeling well and 100% sure that I'm not sick, and I expect and appreciate the same from the provider.

Don't care about the economy, self-entitlement, drug free, or good mental health from the provider, nope. Nobody's getting $1K from me for an hour of their time.

Don't we all.

It's common. Has been for me. And I've experienced that at a Spa too.

I agree. I also see a problem with too many clients wanting to have a cut-and-dry answer to their exact expectations with massages. Here are a few facts: The masseur profession is poorly, if at all, regulated. Anyone can claim to be a masseur and there's no proving otherwise. Many men want escort services for massage prices. I have gotten escort experiences from masseurs, but: (a) some upsold it for an additional cost, (b) some just liked me, and (c) it was their prerogative, they are not mandated to do anything other than a massage. I also have the understanding that I might or might not get anything extras. There's no specific definition or line that differentiates sensual from erotic massages. What is erotic to some is just sensual to others. There will never be a clear, one definition for those things. The masseur calls the shots. He decides if he wants to offer extras, and what, when and to whom to offer such extras. That's just the nature of the setting. It is on us to determine the chances for getting a quality massage. I don't think that I should complain if what got me to reach out to the masseur was the pictures of his ass, not his credentials or experience, and then I get a poor massage. When a masseur I am interested in has profiles in both the massage and the escort website, then I have an idea of (a) his level of willingness (not a guarantee) to offer more than a massage, but also (b) the chances of upselling services. What we communicate is as important as how we communicate it. It's not OK to text questions that might get the masseur in legal trouble. At some point we're going to be disappointed, scammed, conned, or experience something negative. I've shared in this forum that I have been recorded (at least twice) without my consent by masseurs. I got terrible massages, and mediocre extras. It's just part of what we encounter with every service that we hire. I have identified masseurs that offer the different things that I like getting when I'm in the mood for something in particular. My favorite therapeutic masseur was a physical therapist and provides an excellent and very professional therapeutic massage. I also have one or two that are as good with the massage as they are with the extras. I have one or two who are terrible masseurs but great at the extras. I personally have learned to live with the fact that it is a gamble, there is a risk to not obtaining what we have in mind, that the experience might not be as fulfilling as we expect, and that some people have no business doing any kind of massage, yet they can.

No, but I'll be following. I'm traveling to Orlando soon.

Yes, I saw only two without logging in. I'm referring to when not logged in.

I can see important features of you, which is great. I'd suggest if you could add a few more. This is just me, might not be the case with others, but when i see no face and only two visible pics I get suspicious.

No, and in my case I'm glad. I walked away from a previous life and never looked back.

The right thing to do is to not go ahead if you're in shock and not comfortable, or rather "not comfortable". If it was me, I'd let it go for now and revisit the possibility once the shock passes to see if I'd feel comfortable going with it. I don't think that it could happen to me for a number of reasons. A few years ago I came across my forced best friend from childhood (long story as to why forced to be my friend), and he looks like he's had a hard life. The other friend from childhood that I really liked I already lost my virginity to him, so it wouldn't be a shock to me, but I wouldn't like to pay him.

I have the feeling that it's a generational thing, expecting people to do things for them out of self-entitlement. By gay hookup site standards, I don't think it's too harsh. By outside standards, maybe.

Never thought of Sniffies for hiring, but makes sense. As a hookup app I find it a little too intrusive and with too many lurkers. Thanks for sharing this.

You're a desperate perv, and welcome to the club. Mine are way above that mark, but like others, it includes travel expenses for my 5 trips last year, not counting escapades to other states. I remained within budget, though.

Interesting questions. I had to put some thought on this. Decades. I'd say better in the sense that I didn't have to pay the second time. The interaction was as enjoyable as it was the first time (or at least as I remember it). He was a street hustler that I one brought home. At the time I didn't know that he charged, but the experience was good, I felt that he enjoyed the sex as much as I did. Decades later I saw him and we recognized each other. He told me that he "improved his life" and he was happy to just enjoy his body with people that he wanted (or something like that. I was more interested in having sex with him). He looked different but still very attractive. So we had great sex again. Never saw him again after.

Sorry about that. It's never a good thing to be ignored. What others mentioned about escorts not mixing their Grindr lives with their RM lives is to be respected. It's difficult for us clients to see a provider in a different setting and not seeing him as a provider, but there are lines and boundaries set by them that we should respect. However, it is unrealistic to expect that we magically know which escorts are in Grindr outside of their provider realm and which aren't. I don't think you did anything wrong. That said, if you fear rejection, and if you think that what you got from Grindr was information about a negative way in which they perceive and see you, then there's the need to consider than if you reach out to them in RM. Will that affect your interaction if you hire them? Will it be enjoyable for you? That's something than only you can answer. I know I sometimes see a provider,love what I see, love the profile, but when I reach out I don't get the same vibe/feeling I thought I was going to get. I just move on. There are plenty of people out there, if one doesn't work, like the subway, there's always a next.

Why not? Remember the afluenza case? Ethan Couch was found not guilty because he's too rich and self-entitled to be guilty.

That line of work exists since humanity became civilized. That means, people have been providing without Internet for quite a long time. Just search info about the old fashion way of doing things, and the type of clients that cater to that level of discretion. I'm sure that there's clientele out there that prefer that level of secrecy too. I think that's quite a niche for some.

Different look but still hot as hell.

I agree.

Propose, and one of the three of you is not on board, then it won't happen. My guess is that this might not be the first time than people in an open marriage come across a person they have both met separately. If they really are that in sync with each other, chances are that they might already had that discussion about crossing paths with the same person

Actually, that's very easy to find out. I'll reach out to him in Hungarian/Magyar. Let's see how it goes.

To me it's more confusing that he says that he's straight and a top. He also list all these languages: English • Español • Français • Italiano • Dutch • Português • Deutsch • Ру́сский • ελληνικά • بهاس ملايو • Magyar • العَرَبِيَّة‎‎ • हिन्दी • বাংলা • 官话 • 日本語 Guy has issues.

I find it a little odd, but I also think that there's a factor around the level of comfort that a provider feels about being fully open about the work that they do. As others have mentioned, a vast majority of the guys in rentmasseur have no formal training or certification as masseurs. It's not a fully regulated profession, so anyone can call themselves a masseur. Other prefer the convenience that the masseur title gives them, but do whatever they want. They might feel like using it as a cover for escorting, or as an excuse to say no to clients that they don't want to "escort". The masseur title gives them a little more control over how the encounters go, though for less money. Just my thoughts, not law.