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Jaroslav

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  1. Verbose
    Jaroslav got a reaction from + Vegas_Millennial in Seeking “Sugar” Arrangements   
    I really don’t know what you’re arguing. Or why.
    The nature is a transactional relationship. Sure – all human interaction is transactional if you argue to the extreme, but living with someone in exchange for sex is a lot more extreme than an infant relying on a parent to care for them, although the infant is getting security and the parent (hopefully) satisfaction. Someone who “pays” someone to provide for them with sex is still paying, just not with currency. The nature of that arrangement, and that transaction, ends if one or both parties decide to terminate it. If a parent chose to terminate the “transaction” with their infant it would be whole lot different than a sugar daddy terminating a live-in relationship with a boy. How that’s not a clear distinction I don’t quite understand.
    Whatever the case, I’m not convinced and won’t be convinced that a transactional, quid pro quo relationship, no matter the means of transaction, between a provider and a client is a friendship unless the nature of the transaction changed. Sure. Friends receive mutual satisfaction from their friends, but until a client and an provider move on to that level, I simply refuse to see it as something other than business. Even if you genuinely like each other. I don’t need to be everyone’s friend. The thing about providers and clients is that the kind of activity shared together is often overlapped with friends and more-than-friends. So it’s important to keep in mind what is actually happening to protect yourself from disappointment or emotional entanglement.
    People are complex. You can have a friendly relationship with someone you do business with and not be friends. It’s okay in fact.
    I really have nothing more to say about this because I feel I’ve said it all and I’m starting to repeat myself.
  2. Surprised
    Jaroslav got a reaction from + The Big Guy in Seeking “Sugar” Arrangements   
    When you say “in exchange” it means it’s a transaction.
    Why is it so bad to admit that it’s a transaction? I don’t have a problem with that, nor do I see it as pessimistic or optimistic. It’s facts. Reality. Not good or bad. Just is.
    Akin to saying someone’s a cocksucker. Why is that an insult? I enjoying a good cocksucker 😜 
    But still, if something is done “in exchange” for something, whatever the case, it’s a transaction. If you’d do it, or someone else would do it for the simple reason they like/love you, that’s different than “I get housing out of this if I have sex with this guy.” Again, not anything wrong with that. But it is a transaction.
    I for one would love that kind of transactional relationship with a guy. But it’d important for me to always remember as long as that’s the basis of the relationship, if, say for some reason I couldn’t provide the housing anymore or he wanted to move on because he could provide for himself now, then the relationship would end, at least under that arrangement. And that too is okay.
    But a transactional relationship (a relationship that has as a major component something done “in exchange” for something, especially explicitly) is one that is inherently different than a friendship.
    I for my part don’t need to be “friends” with every Tom, Dick, and Harry. Nor do I want to be. 
  3. Eye Roll
    Jaroslav reacted to pubic_assistance in Seeking “Sugar” Arrangements   
    You posted a question on a forum.
    I am not "arguing" I am answering your question about how a transactional relationship can be and sometimes IS more than just the transaction.
    If you don't want to hear people's opinions then why did you ask ?
    Perhaps you should change your heading to a statement of opinion instead of a question since you're not interested in anything but making your own point heard.
  4. Confused
    Jaroslav got a reaction from pubic_assistance in Seeking “Sugar” Arrangements   
    It is.
    A means of trade need not be currency. cf. Bartering is a good example.
    Again…transactional relationships aren’t bad. But they’re transactional – something for something. Not a bad thing. Let’s just be honest about it.
  5. Sad
    Jaroslav got a reaction from pubic_assistance in Seeking “Sugar” Arrangements   
    Not the point, folks.
    The point is that a relationship that is typical in the client-provider relationship, even if friendly, isn’t friendship. Even if there are exceptions (“exception to the rule” exists as an expression for a reason), they’re exceptions, not the norm.
    Escorts-client relationships aren’t as a general rule friendships.
    Believe that they are at your own risk of emotional distress. Maybe you’ll win the psychological roulette. I’m not spinning the cylinder.
    Sorry if I offended anyone.
  6. Hide Eyes
    Jaroslav got a reaction from pubic_assistance in Seeking “Sugar” Arrangements   
    I didn’t. And those who would be out to get us don’t either. Because…obviously we all know what’s going on.
    If an officer pulls you over and says you’re going 15 mph over the speed limit, you might say you’re not speeding, you’re going with the flow of traffic, but the fact is we all know you’re over the limit no matter what you say.
  7. Confused
    Jaroslav got a reaction from pubic_assistance in Seeking “Sugar” Arrangements   
    You can call the ocean the sky all you want and we’ll all know it’s still the ocean—and think you’re delusional for believing it.
    People can say whatever they want. We all know what’s going on. The circumlocution just makes me roll my eyes. “Okay, honey. If you say so.”
  8. Verbose
    Jaroslav got a reaction from + The Big Guy in Seeking “Sugar” Arrangements   
    I really don’t know what you’re arguing. Or why.
    The nature is a transactional relationship. Sure – all human interaction is transactional if you argue to the extreme, but living with someone in exchange for sex is a lot more extreme than an infant relying on a parent to care for them, although the infant is getting security and the parent (hopefully) satisfaction. Someone who “pays” someone to provide for them with sex is still paying, just not with currency. The nature of that arrangement, and that transaction, ends if one or both parties decide to terminate it. If a parent chose to terminate the “transaction” with their infant it would be whole lot different than a sugar daddy terminating a live-in relationship with a boy. How that’s not a clear distinction I don’t quite understand.
    Whatever the case, I’m not convinced and won’t be convinced that a transactional, quid pro quo relationship, no matter the means of transaction, between a provider and a client is a friendship unless the nature of the transaction changed. Sure. Friends receive mutual satisfaction from their friends, but until a client and an provider move on to that level, I simply refuse to see it as something other than business. Even if you genuinely like each other. I don’t need to be everyone’s friend. The thing about providers and clients is that the kind of activity shared together is often overlapped with friends and more-than-friends. So it’s important to keep in mind what is actually happening to protect yourself from disappointment or emotional entanglement.
    People are complex. You can have a friendly relationship with someone you do business with and not be friends. It’s okay in fact.
    I really have nothing more to say about this because I feel I’ve said it all and I’m starting to repeat myself.
  9. Hide Eyes
    Jaroslav got a reaction from pubic_assistance in Seeking “Sugar” Arrangements   
    When you say “in exchange” it means it’s a transaction.
    Why is it so bad to admit that it’s a transaction? I don’t have a problem with that, nor do I see it as pessimistic or optimistic. It’s facts. Reality. Not good or bad. Just is.
    Akin to saying someone’s a cocksucker. Why is that an insult? I enjoying a good cocksucker 😜 
    But still, if something is done “in exchange” for something, whatever the case, it’s a transaction. If you’d do it, or someone else would do it for the simple reason they like/love you, that’s different than “I get housing out of this if I have sex with this guy.” Again, not anything wrong with that. But it is a transaction.
    I for one would love that kind of transactional relationship with a guy. But it’d important for me to always remember as long as that’s the basis of the relationship, if, say for some reason I couldn’t provide the housing anymore or he wanted to move on because he could provide for himself now, then the relationship would end, at least under that arrangement. And that too is okay.
    But a transactional relationship (a relationship that has as a major component something done “in exchange” for something, especially explicitly) is one that is inherently different than a friendship.
    I for my part don’t need to be “friends” with every Tom, Dick, and Harry. Nor do I want to be. 
  10. Like
    Jaroslav got a reaction from + DrownedBoy in Ghosting 2.0   
    That sounds like a deflection.
    I don’t pay people to be my friends. Friends spend time together. My friends and I do things for each. Favors. Sometimes things with no reciprocity. Sometimes in our professional wheelhouse as well. We don’t “transact” such favors. That’s what friends do. My barber is a friend. He never charges me for my haircut. Just an example.
    If you’d maintain the same relationship ceteris paribus without a financial transaction with these providers, then you’re friends as I see it. Otherwise it’s a client-provider relationship that’s friendly. Which is good, but not a friendship.
    IMHO
  11. Applause
    Jaroslav got a reaction from + nycman in Ghosting 2.0   
    @DWnyc, he didn’t say we’re done. That’s partly why I asked about ghosting. No such message ever was received. He always complained about people not being decent enough to communicate even if it was unpleasant, but then he seemingly does the same thing. I need to take my own wisdom and remember that escorts aren’t friends and you can’t expect them to act that way. 
  12. Like
    Jaroslav got a reaction from Rod Hagen in Ghosting 2.0   
    @Rod Hagen– Would you consider circumstances where you spend time and have physical intimacy with these friends if money weren’t coming your way? 
  13. Applause
    Jaroslav got a reaction from pubic_assistance in Contact Person: What If?   
    I have a friend I text first thing every morning. If he didn’t hear from me by noon, he’d be coming over to my place. 
  14. Like
    Jaroslav reacted to + DrownedBoy in Ghosting 2.0   
    The question is whether or not the relationship constitutes a "friendship. "
    That being said, everyone from Cicero to Francis Bacon wrote essays trying to define friendship, and nobody agrees.
  15. Like
    Jaroslav reacted to + DrownedBoy in Ghosting 2.0   
    I think of my regulars as businessmen I work with, and that I've found to be professional, trustworthy,  nice, and can get the job done.
    Same as my barber and mechanic. We get along and chat while conducting business,  but business is the only reason we meet.
    Sorry, but if you pay money to see someone, they are neither a friend nor acquaintance. That doesn't mean you can't get along and compliment them on their trade. But it does mean it's improper to let personal issues and emotions come into it.
  16. Like
    Jaroslav got a reaction from + jeezopete in Contact Person: What If?   
    I have a friend I text first thing every morning. If he didn’t hear from me by noon, he’d be coming over to my place. 
  17. Surprised
    Jaroslav got a reaction from Danny-Darko in 411 About ANTHONY FLEX   
    He had the audacity to follow up with me for a cam show. I didn’t dignify it wirh a response. 
  18. Like
    Jaroslav reacted to alexslaveboy in 411 About ANTHONY FLEX   
    @Jaroslav same for me 
    Sent him money for Uber and no show 
    Told me that he was at our meeting location but I was the only one there
    Had the audacity to email me the next day saying he would definitely be there if I sent him more money for another Uber 
    Never was gonna happen 
    😂😂😂
  19. Agree
    Jaroslav got a reaction from coriolis888 in $300 versus $150/$200…   
    With inflation, people are looking to maximize their buck either way – clients don’t have the same spending power and escorts need more spending power. In order to secure any business, I can see some escorts dropping the price. Luxury goods (of which escorts technically are) often see their prices *fall* during times of inflation. 
  20. Like
    Jaroslav got a reaction from + jessmapex in $300 versus $150/$200…   
    With inflation, people are looking to maximize their buck either way – clients don’t have the same spending power and escorts need more spending power. In order to secure any business, I can see some escorts dropping the price. Luxury goods (of which escorts technically are) often see their prices *fall* during times of inflation. 
  21. Like
    Jaroslav got a reaction from DWnyc in $300 versus $150/$200…   
    With inflation, people are looking to maximize their buck either way – clients don’t have the same spending power and escorts need more spending power. In order to secure any business, I can see some escorts dropping the price. Luxury goods (of which escorts technically are) often see their prices *fall* during times of inflation. 
  22. Like
    Jaroslav reacted to BuffaloKyle in $300 versus $150/$200…   
    Usually though if a guy charges 300 for an hour he'll do 500 for two. At least in my experiences. I'm starting to ask more about a 90 min rate. If a guy wants 300 for an hour I'll ask if he'll do 400 for 90 min.
  23. Agree
    Jaroslav got a reaction from JourneysEnd in Unprofessionalism   
    This is the most reasonable response here.
    From my perspective, both sides clearly are forgetting it’s people, not things. There’s little respect here from either direction.
  24. Like
    Jaroslav reacted to TruHart1 in Unprofessionalism   
    Over a period of nearly ten years of hiring, I have always found that the escorts I hired understood if I hired them for an hour or two it was about the time spent in their company. Most of these professionals never asked for money upfront either. But after the pandemic I hired three escorts (separately) who not only required the fees upfront but who believed they were finished whenever they made me ejaculate.
    In one case I explained that I’d paid for an hour and expected him to complete the hour talking and cuddling. That man did get back into bed but was so angered by it that he nearly refused to talk to me at all, grunting one syllable answers to my questions! One young Latino “kid” required the fee upfront, got me off quite quickly and then acted like he could not understand my English when I tried to explain about me paying for his time and NOT the acts which made me orgasm!
    Finally, the third guy (a man who said he was only nineteen!) required his payment upfront AND after he got me off, told me that he’d NEVER experienced a client who required any time after they finished. He was so hot and exciting sexually that I believed him because he’d turned me on so much that I lost some of my control and he had me coming in less than twenty minutes!
    The common factor here is that these three were all so much younger than I usually hire, so it’s somewhat a case of my little head taking precedence over my big head! Anyway, I think I’ll definitely be hiring escorts who are at least thirty from now on!!!
    TruHart1 😎
  25. Like
    Jaroslav reacted to MscleLovr in Ghosting 2.0   
    I agree with this. I have a small number of good friends. My “acid test” for friendship is whether I could call them at 2am asking for help and know they would respond. 
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