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In general I’m inclined to talk things out but I’m not sure I could get past the “I mean look at you, and look at me“ comment.

In general I’m inclined to talk things out but I’m not sure I could get past the “I mean look at you, and look at me“ comment.

In general I’m inclined to talk things out but I’m not sure I could get past the “I mean look at you, and look at me“ comment.

That sheds light on why my appointment with a guy I used to see, who advertised therapeutic only, delayed our appointment 3 times because the client before me was late. When we finally met, I showered after the massage, and blew my nose after the shower. Went to put the tissue in the covered trash can in the bathroom, and when I opened the top, there was condom and wrapper laying on top.

I’ve been using Grindr for at least 5 yrs to find guys looking for generous men and have had all amazing expierences. My latest find is a hot 20yr old with and amazing body with rock hard abs. We’ve been seeing each other twice a week now for almost 2 months and I can honestly say it’s the best BFE I have ever expierenced. I’ve stayed over at his place and got to wake up with him at no extra cost and been out on the town with him for no cost whatsoever. I’d say this is rare but I guess I’m lucky. He went home for the holidays and is still texting me everyday and asking me how I am. Like I said a true BFE

Lol isn’t jeff Stryker like 80 years old by now? Haha

https://www.companyofmen.org/threads/women-who-date-gay-porn-models.128483/
 
YOU @Avalon started a thread about the same issue in September 19 of this year.... barely 2 months away.

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You sure about that?

As someone who would never get a tattoo and dislikes the look of most full-color tattoos, I am bemused as to why this form of self-expression receives such visceral hate. It borders on "hot men only exist to give me visual (and other) pleasure."
 
Accept that other people have autonomy over what they do with their bodies. Is that really so hard? No one has the right to dictate others' choices.

Since a masseuse is a woman, I'm guessing the answer is "under 1%."

Well in this day and age not hiring someone with some ink will severely limit your hiring pool....escort OR employees.
 
As for “when they get older” consider how MANY of them will have ink as they age, it will be “de rigueur” and commonplace within their demographic

Old generally isn't pretty. Old with tats has about the same aesthetic appeal as old without tats.

There was nothing baseless in my assumptions of your comments.
 

Nor did I. I am simply pointed out that your position on STD's is questionable. Using bareback and disease together is your doing and how you started this thread.
 

No.
 
Condoms, although originally intended to deal with unwanted pregnancy, were promoted in the gay community as a direct response to the HIV/AIDS crisis. (I was there when the marketing began in SF and NYC) They were not invented to deal with STD/STI. Gay men, for the most part, look at condoms through the marketing lens of HIV prevention and making sex safe again.
 
Now, the introduction of PrEP and the greater understanding of how HIV works, has adjusted perceptions again. As a result, the risk levels perceived in potential clients is changing.
 
Either your business model adjusts to that change, or you will lose market share to attrition. The market is changing, and you need to adjust. Either differentiate yourself for value-add and specialize, or, lose business to those that will.
 

I am stating the reality of the situation. Whether I bareback or not, is my business. You don't want to engage in it in yours, so clients desiring it are going to say you aren't providing the service they desire.
 
I am judging your response to barebacking and that I freely admit.
 
My judgment: I believe you are being unreasonable and inflexible. Either bareback and take proactive steps to limit exposure as well as reactive steps when exposed... OR... Adjust your expectations on business and find a way to differentiate yourself (specialize) in a narrow market space... OR... Do nothing and complain, although I doubt this is really an effective business strategy.
 

I do understand your point of view, however, I am not required to.
 
If you want to send a message that all escorts should stop engaging in bareback sex, then go ahead... but don't expect that they are going to change because you ask them. And don't expect sympathy for your business conditions just because you are unhappy that clients want bareback sex.
 
If you want to say that clients are being fooled, by the porn industry, into engaging in risky behavior then you're missing the basics of business. The you've got it backwards. It is the reduction in risk assessment, specifically of HIV, that is the current driver behind increased bareback sex and the acceptance of bareback porn.
 

HIV scared people into condoms. Understanding risks, treatment options, and knowledge are resetting opinions back to where they were before. HIV and Condoms are NOT unrelated.
 

Not to be rude... but the options are clear. Either:

Differentiate yourself and make the other services you provide worth more than the value customers place on bareback; or;
Narrow your market space to only condom using clients; or;
Lower your price to increase your market space to offset the lost market; or;
Provide bareback services (with all of the pros and cons involved); or;
Find a new industry to work in;

You can't change the entire market to your personal preferences. Adjust, adapt, change, or, close up shop.
 
There are too many new entrants into the market to make it possible for you to change market demands. Sorry for the truth.

I agree. Italians think they're amazing.
 
I think they're dry and tasteless. I've always hated cannoli's as well.
 
But, when you love Italian American Men as much as I do....you learn to fake it!

sounds like a Seinfeld episode in which one character gets the therapist with the extras and then George Costanza shows up and gets the other guy.
 
How was it? Fine....except... Except, what? No...extras. Really? I got extras. You got extras? Why didn't I get extras? I don't know. Maybe you're not extra-worthy. Twins? They're identical twins? And I get the one who doesn't give extras. They're not exactly identical.

Latbear you are without question a lovely and thoughtful guy but you often resort to “hush! Don’t say a single thing in public about sex or criticism re an escort.” I’m glad the op did this and it’s a teaching moment. How many texts escorts get and why they may fail to respond. May I gently and nicely suggest you encourage rather than discourage public discussion.

http://mymassagereviews.blogspot.com
 
This should be required reading before trying a new masseur!

Did he do more than briefly brush against it?

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I think it was a massage about 10-12 years ago. I went to a legit spa and after I turned over I could see the masseur had a hardon under his shorts. I started stroking him and one thing led to another and I got up, bent him over the table and fucked him! After it was all over he said “gee I’ve never done that before in the massage room!”

I agree and a lot of men get mad (calling them bitchy, shallow, etc.) at the "model gorgeous" guys for not being into them... but look at it from their perspective. At least there's money to sway a decent portion of them.

I never had an issue there, but I understand where you're coming from. However, I don't think a guy is necessarily "bitchy" because he doesn't want to hook up with just anyone who strolls by. I don't want to start a whole controversy here...but, is it so wrong to want to hold out for someone who you're more attracted to?
 
I mean, you seem to think that your "decent" shape and "very large unit" is or should put you in the game with people looking for "model gorgeous" guys. So you're think in those terms too. Would you have hooked up with someone who is not in decent shape and has a small unit just because they tapped you on the shoulder?

The last person that did, was someone from my company. I sued. I won. I retired and moved to Florida.
 

One time at Syracuse at the Ramanda 3 years ago I went to get food and a cocktail for my night cap, the bartender gave me this weird look and acted very shy. I get back to my room (I had just joined rentmen) and it starts barking at me email, email, email, email then a text.
 
It was the bartender! He seen me on rentmen, adam4adam AND Grindr I was scared he was gonna snitch on me! But guess what! He hired me instead