Grinder and Jack'd as escort venues

[Fyton]

I get several unsolicited messages at night from guys wildly too young to be truly interested. They never ask any questions; they are inept at conversing; they answer my questions with short statements that don't invite further conversation, until, eventually, they ask if I'm generous. That's in Austin.

Last week, however, I was in Atlanta. There the guys, every one of them black (in case that matters), came to the point very quickly and offered stunningly enticing images. I was exceedingly suspicious and cautious, but met one. He was exactly as advertised, sweet as hell, almost naive and pedestrian (or is all that covered by 22). Delivered, appeared to enjoy it, and left when time to.

Anyone have any insights into this?

[LookingAround]

The new way to meet guys into gen arrangements

[rocksinurhead]

As a client, in NYC, I find Grindr quite useful for hiring. Most escorts using Grindr are not "advertising" there. They could very well be pursuing their own personal interests. If a guy uses a picture I recognize from an RM profile, I make it clear immediately that's why I'm sending him a message. In my experience, they respond quite positively to that sort of contact. I like "meeting" through Grindr because of the opportunity to chat, exchange pics, make both of our interests and expectations clear, etc quickly and easily.

[Fyton]

I call adult! "Rocksinurhed" is an adult!

[MikeyGMin]

I certainly do not have this "issue" in Austin. Maybe because I live in the suburbs. It's just the same guys all the time. I'm going to have to drive to the domain or somewhere downtown and hang out for a while.

[Hungmixedboi88]

I tried escorting on grindr for a short while, putting something along the lines as Mr. Ca$anova as the title. When I did that I got many harassing messages from guys my age and or guys pretending to want to hire me and be a no-show lol. Then I dropped the name Mr. Ca$anova to be more subtle and whenever an older gentlemen messaged me first... thats when I would ask if their generous, some were cool with it and I got hired by then and others cursed me out and blocked me lol. Anyhoo it didnt last long me escorting on grindr, its a public platform so your going to get lots of guys who are going to play games with you. Plus I've been on grindr for years as just a regular user so too many people know me already, so nah not for me, I prefer to advertises in places that only have other escorts.

 

Have had the same experience. Some are okay with it and others freak out so I've stopped trying on Grindr. (I will say here in Europe I've gotten less aggressive negative reactions though so thats sweet.) It's way better when it's on a site that you definitely know what's going on.

 

I would have to say that the quality of client just isn't the same on those apps as it is on RM or this forum as well so I'm a fan of websites particularly pertaining to escorting or this forum

[CatnameFelix]

There are so many issues that come with advertising on a hookup app. I'm sorry that you guys received all that hostility, that's completely uncalled for.

 

At the same point, I really I hope that if you do use a hookup app to find clients that you don't keep your profiles too vague. Cause as someone who only uses hookup app to hookup and escorting apps to hire, there is nothing more annoying than having what you think is someone being interested in you ask, "are you generous." I not that old, I workout and kept in good shape, and my profile does at all scream out "SUGAR DADDY." There's no bigger hit to your ego than that.

 

I also wonder what it's like for escorts that use those apps to just hookup. I know I've had a lot of guys hit on me, to find out later they are escorts. I would never turn a guy down because of that. But I would never ever hit on a guy I knew was an escort, for fear the conversation would lead to asking how much money I have.

[rickp]

Grinder and scruff are fantastic venues for meeting up with clients. I use them all the time, and in midtown Manhattan they work quite nicely.

[CCMaryland]

I feel odd about contacting an escort on Grindr or Scruff if their profile does not mention anything about their work. I might if their profile picture is identical to the picture on their ad though. I kind of feel like they are on their own time there. If I found them on Facebook, I definitely would not contact them there if they were under their real identity. I don't want to be the creepy stalker. I'll boil my bunnies in private.

[marylander1940]

I tried escorting on grindr for a short while, putting something along the lines as Mr. Ca$anova as the title. When I did that I got many harassing messages from guys my age and or guys pretending to want to hire me and be a no-show lol. Then I dropped the name Mr. Ca$anova to be more subtle and whenever an older gentlemen messaged me first... thats when I would ask if their generous, some were cool with it and I got hired by then and others cursed me out and blocked me lol. Anyhoo it didnt last long me escorting on grindr, its a public platform so your going to get lots of guys who are going to play games with you. Plus I've been on grindr for years as just a regular user so too many people know me already, so nah not for me, I prefer to advertises in places that only have other escorts.

 

I'm glad you tried it and I'm glad you're no longer wasting time on it.

 

I think the only reason why some "so-called" gentlemen try to hire out of Grindr is paying less... some might think they're helping a "starving student" or whatever they tell themselves about it but the main reason is to pay less.

 

I know someone who called himself so many times "Generou$", after getting caught he just started offering money to guys and he finally got his device blocked out of the app. Yes, they can do that. A private company is more effective than the NSA. I wonder if Mr. Sessions would be interested in cracking down the business this way and going after guys "soliciting" on Grindr.

 

Some young men might "not have the stomach" to escort, I'd rather hiring professionals who know what they're up to.

[rickp]

Thanks. So, the client will initiate that conversation and I'll give him my phone number.

[CCMaryland]

I know someone who called himself so many times "Generou$", after getting caught he just started offering money to guys and he finally got his device blocked out of the app. Yes, they can do that. A private company is more effective than the NSA. I wonder if Mr. Sessions would be interested in cracking down the business this way and going after guys "soliciting" on Grindr.

 

I have been approached by a some guys on Grindr telling me that they are looking for a sugar daddy. Just not interested in opening up my checkbook on a longterm basis with people. They'll get cut off in a heartbeat if I get any hint of fishing for funds.

[LookingAround]

I'm glad it works for you.

 

Who breaks the ice about asking for $, the unsuspected client thinking he finally found someone interested in having sex with an older man or the escort?

 

How does the conversation go in an app that is supposed to be about free sex?

 

Me: hey how r u

Them: good. I'm an escort

Me: Cool. (Then continue convo)

[marylander1940]

Me: hey how r u

Them: good. I'm an escort

Me: Cool. (Then continue convo)

 

Me: bye, here folks fuck for free why should I pay.

 

one more thing: I didn't ask you.

[CatnameFelix]

Me: bye, here folks fuck for free why should I pay.

 

one more thing: I didn't ask you.

Exactly, especially when the conversation starts:

 

Him: hey sexy.

 

Me: hey there.

 

Him: I'm an escort.

[CatnameFelix]

GRINDR is a mess, my problem is too much fucking. I have over 1000+ unread messages from guys who want to hookup. I feel bad that I don't hookup unless its a client

 

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All the more reason you should be as up front as possible. The whole point of the app is to find hookups and relationships. A carpenter can't complain about the responses they get to their ads, when they only advertise on Grubhub.

[rickp]

There are no hard feelings on grinder for me; plenty of available options, so everyone should be able to find exactly what they're looking for.

[down_to_business]

I would not be happy if I spent time and effort trying to put myself out there and meet somebody on a social app with no mention on my part about escorting only for them to engage me and then after ensnaring me, then bring up escorting or a generous/sugar daddy component to the meeting.

[Hungmixedboi88]

GRINDR is a mess, my problem is too much fucking. I have over 1000+ unread messages from guys who want to hookup. I feel bad that I don't hookup unless its a client

 

the struggles in life

 

You have GOT to have some you time too though. It's like.. idk recharging it's weird to explain. Glad you're staying busy though

[LookingAround]

lol yinz sound

Me: bye, here folks fuck for free why should I pay.

 

one more thing: I didn't ask you.

s like a real winner. Bet you get a lot of guys for free so makes sense you wouldn't want a gen arrangement.

[BryanKnight]

I change the photos and wait for them to come to me. I'll mention my work and direct them to my links. If they ask, then I send thm to my webpage to discuss negotations.

 

The biggest issue I have is being seen by more, lol, because there is still hiring happening there, just limits on location to the general public.

[realeasymoney]

anybody ever have or hear about problems with the authorities. I just wonder how open you can be.

[Fyton]

It happened again last night here in Austin. At 7:00 p.m. I get a "Hi" from a Grinder subscriber who purports to be 25. My profile reads that I am 54, so I am intrigued but not fooled. I ask have you read my profile. He responds with something suggesting that he has. I send him a recent photo, still he remains. He sends me a photo, and sure enough, its the photo of a 25 year old. I ask provocative questions, he responds with short answers but no questions of his own. I get blatant about what I like in the sack. Still he remains. He asks if he may come over. Duh. He may. Then...the shoe drops. We talked about the scope and scale of my "generosity". Then he came over, and he was 25-ish and did what we discussed, and it was terrific.

[realeasymoney]

Put "sugar daddy" on your photo and you'll get lots of responses - some interesting some not. Hooked with slightly thuggish white dude with wife and baby. Now he wants to hook me up with his brother, also wife and baby. Not everyone's taste but ok for me.

[samhexum]

Judge refuses to grant bail to ex-model who claimed self-defense after fatal Brooklyn stabbing

BY CHRISTINA CARREGA

NEW YORK DAILY NEWS

 

A Brooklyn judge refused to grant bail Wednesday to a former model who maintains he was acting in self-defense when he fatally stabbed a man he’d met on the online dating app Jack’d.

 

David Keegan Riotto Haigh, 42, has been jailed on Rikers Island for six months since being charged with stabbing James Johnson to death inside a fourth-floor apartment at the Ingersoll Houses.

 

“The prosecutors only presented to the bail-fixing court the charges and that Mr. Johnson was stabbed 20 times,” Haigh’s attorney, Thomas H. Andrykovitz, argued Wednesday.

 

Andrykovitz said bail is justified because Haigh has never veered from his story that he acted in self-defense, telling investigators in a 90-minute videotaped statement soon after the slaying that he felt threatened after Johnson demanded sex.

 

Haigh and Johnson, 41, met on Jack’d and had spent the weekend of April 9 partying with a group of people the victim also met on the hook-up app.

 

“My client was in fear for his life and was scared to pull out his phone out to call the police. He texted a friend twice at 5:02 a.m., ‘911, 911’ before the fight that ended in Mr. Johnson’s death,” said Andrykovitz, who obtained the text messages from Haigh’s friend.

 

Unbeknownst to Haigh, his online lover was under investigation by the NYPDfor criminal sex act charges stemming from a similar attack on a 25-year-old man inside the fourth-floor apartment nine days earlier, according to court documents.

 

 

Assistant District Attorney Timothy Gough conceded that Haigh did claim self-defense in a taped statement and was also injured during the attack.

 

 

Johnson was stabbed 18 times and had 21 lacerations, the prosecutor said.

 

Haigh was indicted on second-degree murder and weapons possession charges and faces 25 years to life in prison if convicted.

 

“When police arrived at the apartment, the door was barricaded and the defendant was sitting on top of the victim...he indicated he was using drugs,” said Gough, who argued against bail for the Philadelphia man who has no ties to the state and is self-employed.

 

Andrykovitz argued that he’d established a stable New York address: If bail were set, Haigh planned to live in a Brooklyn Heights apartment owned by Marc Carpentier, a former assistant budget commissioner for the Department of Correction and a longtime friend of Haigh.

 

The judge denied the attorney’s request, noting that the grand jury heard his client’s claims of self-defense and still indicted Haigh for intentional murder charges.

 

Haigh is expected back in court on Dec. 1.

 

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James Johnson

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David Keegan Riotto Haigh