Simon Suraci

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My boots are on the ground here at InnDulge. I’m checked in for the week. Now for a cocktail and a dip in the hot tub. Had a nice chat over dinner with other guests. What a nice crowd. Room 23

This is abnormal. What you’re asking for is pretty standard fare. I would expect most men you contact to do what you’re requesting for their standard rate. $300 is pretty common in most areas of the US right now, excluding certain high cost metros. There is no standard, however, and I agree with Benjamin that offerings and prices vary widely from escort to escort, so it’s important to communicate your needs and expectations. Also read the ad carefully. Sometimes Top means exactly that. No bottoming for any price. When kissing is not listed, ask.

Correct. @Alabastrine Try Package Dallas (formerly Tapelenders) on Cedar Springs a few doors down from Hunky’s. Or Skivvies, on Throckmorton across from Sue Ellen’s and JR’s. Other sex shops in Oak Lawn will have it too. Plus the mainstream sex shops in broader Dallas.

@Alabastrine I highly recommend Dann. Solid all around. Massage skills: check. Sex appeal: check. Charm: double check. Generous with his body: check. Nice space: check. He creates content. Twitter: @Reecescottx. For @BigNoiseDallas this aspect was a turn-off, but maybe for others a turn-on, or a non issue. I have not tried his esthetician services but his massage is great. Well worth it. I agree 5’-9” is a good estimated height. Not extremely tall or short. I’m 5’-11” and I remember when meeting him he is shorter than me, definitely not any taller. You may want to specify if you want draping or not since for men the default for many of us masseurs is mutual nude. For women we tend to be more conservative, not knowing if she would appreciate nudity on either side of the equation. Speaking for myself here, I always drape women and stay clothed unless they specifically indicate otherwise. I do this because most of the women I have seen feel most comfortable being draped.

Brian works out of OKC and visits DTX often. He has been active on these forums in the past but guess he lost interest. He used it more or less like a billboard, literally posting his ad embedded with images on all his posts. I heard good things so I tried reaching out for an appointment on my last visit in OKC. He was friendly and responsive, but he was hosting family and couldn’t meet then. Not sure about his massage, hope to meet him someday. Langston I’ve worked with before many times for 4-hand massages and…mostly other activities. I still do when I have such requests during my Dallas visits the next of which will be around July and October of 2025. I highly recommend Langston for the *ahem* other activities, but not so much for massage. He does a nice, relaxing sensual massage routine. Sexy guy and a sexy massage but don’t expect a high skill therapeutic experience. Great for what it is. He works with his husband Deon for 4-hand massage and…other activities as well. Langston is an architect like me and massages part time nights and weekends. Deon does drag. I can’t speak to Deon’s RentMasseur work, but one escort client I referred to him told me he was quite happy with Deon. DTDallas I met in person when I lived in downtown Dallas. I have not hired him, can’t speak to his work.

I asked last year. INNdulge is fine with guests coming over, and they do not charge for guests to enjoy the pool as long as they come at a paying guest’s invitation. They do not welcome large gatherings.

A bar outing on Friday night sounds fun. All depends on client appointments though. If I am less busy, count me in.

Because: clients (and working boys) value privacy. getting a bunch of gay men to commit to anything (much less as far in advance as would be necessary) is a total non-starter. ditto the above point, inserting “with significant financial stakes” and its a double non-starter. traditions run deep. Men attending like doing what’s familiar, convenient, easy, and comfortable. clients have varying tastes, priorities, preferences, and budgets. hard to beat the atmosphere at InnDulge and other nearby hotels. how many people can possibly fit in one large AirBnB? A dozen? Way more attend Among so many other reasons I won’t bother to jot down. The above are more than enough With that said, I’m open to going in on an AirBnB in the future. The organizers manage to pull off communal meals in an orderly manner. I see no reason we couldn’t do the same for a big place. That place would have to be selected by one volunteer party, not a large ‘committee’ of everyone having an opinion or complaint about which one and where and how much $ and so on.

Like store brands, or not. It’s all a matter of perspective:

Welcome @tantric leopard!

Energy is not the new erotic. Energy can incorporate erotic work but is not necessarily erotic by nature. Some masseurs stress energy exchange, healing energy, and so on, which often, but does not always involve direct contact, such as a reiki approach. Some masseurs do Taoist and tantric inspired bodywork, which for some helps them identify and release emotional blockages or open up their mind, body, and spirit through a physical-spiritual connection. And yes, sometimes that means massaging your taint and prostate and belly and pelvis in ways adjacent to and overlapping with traditional ideas about sexuality, sexual feelings, and sexual pleasure. The point is it’s not only about the latter. It’s focused on the spiritual aspects and how physical manifestations and manipulations can help you access the spiritual parts of yourself in a more profound way. Many of you will say it’s all bs and not care, which is fine. It’s not for you then. The right clients for those masseurs find them. They aren’t the right masseurs for every client, nor is every client a good fit for some of the more woo-woo oriented masseurs. Personally, I enjoy the energy exchange approach, and take this step a lunge more forward with some of my clients who are ready and willing to go there with me. Most absolutely are not. Still, there is an undeniable energy exchange at some level in all of my sessions. Enjoy the woo if you will, and if you won’t, whine to whoever else will wisten.

Masseurs have the option to pick from a canned dropdown list. “Massage Bliss”, by Simon or whatever bullshit titles. We don’t type them in, nor are they arbitrarily assigned. We have to pick one of the options they present to us. I’m over MF. As soon as Gay Wellness picks up enough steam, which could be quite a long while, I am dumping MF for good.

I have to agree with @KeepItReal the risk for HIV from oral may be low, but it is non-zero. My doctor tells me DoxyPEP can lower the risk of gonorrhea infection, but many people still do get gonorrhea while using DoxyPEP as prescribed. All treatable of course, and yes we should be getting tested regularly. I do so monthly. Clients usually aren’t testing that frequently. Best case is every three months for those superstar gays on prep and testing according to their doctor’s requirements. Many clients do not test at all for various reasons; healthcare privacy, access, shame, lack of frequent exposure, fear of judgment, among other reasons. Unfortunately, many clients are not getting vaccinated for all you mentioned. I do, as I should considering our work, but only a fraction of MSM are on top of these things. Some fear judgement, shame, or lack access. Telling your doctor you need a monkeypox vaccine is tantamount to putting a pink triangle on your sleeve. It may be no big deal for me, but a married bi-curious client seeking a first experience is probably not going to be so bold, or proactive, or knowledgeable. I think the concern here is some clients either do not know about, do not have, or refuse (for whatever valid or not-so-valid reasons) to access appropriate healthcare. Maybe for fear of a spouse finding out, or general stigma. Who knows. For those clients refusing to access appropriate preventive and maintenance healthcare, the best way to stay healthy is to abstain from sexual activity.

Except gonorrhea. It doesn’t protect against that. Or any viral infection including HPV, HIV, hepatitis B or hepatitis C. Useful for chlamydia and syphilis though!

Depends on how good and experienced the top is, which position(s) and if we are switching positions frequently to maintain interest and avoid fatigue on both sides of the equation. Regular reapplication of lube helps, and silicone lasts longer between applications. Some of my longest encounters have been when flip fucking, switching it up every twenty to thirty minutes. Each partner’s hole gets a break for a little while before going again. Also depends on intensity and pace. Sometimes I can be inside a bottom and slowly, intentionally, and sensually linger hard and being fully inside him, barely moving, pulsing to stimulate his prostate and areas around it and past it. He feels every micrometer of movement and fullness and appreciates it. Helps him fully relax and engage the experience and heighten his senses, so that when we do pick back up to medium or faster pace, he feels each thrust even more intensely. Like tasting and chewing thoroughly each bite of a delicious, nicely prepared meal, and pacing one’s self to enjoy the whole dish. Not just gobbling it down mindlessly and feeling “full” but unsatisfied. Changes in pace are good too, if not position. Jack hammering is ok for short times when the bottom is into it, all the way back down to the slow sensual pulsing I mentioned, and most of the time it’s something in the range in between the two extremes. It can be fun putting just the tip in back and forth to stimulate his magic button. Also pulling all the way out and plunging back in at different speeds and angles and positions. My god there are a lot of ways to fuck. Why not enjoy all of them? Sometimes that takes a long while to do them all. Breaks are good too, but I like long sessions with a compatible partner. Even better when my bottom can go more than an hour. Short sessions are fun too, don’t get me wrong, and most of the time a single round of sex lasts under an hour. With enough variety, pacing, positioning, and stamina, though sex can be an amazing adventure lasting well over an hour, and something comfortable and enjoyable for both parties. Fun when it works out. People’s bodies have various limitations like joints getting sore or poor flexibility, or whatever. Then of course holes get sore too. Long fuck sessions aren’t for everyone.

^Ain’t that the truth? Thanks for sharing your interests! When I was advertising on mainstream platforms I saw more women. I don’t think I’ve ever shared this in the forum before, but I consider myself Straight-For-Pay! It’s true. Cis women are a vanishingly small minority of my clients, and of them usually they are part of a M-F couple. However, I service them too, both for therapeutic and erotic services. I just target my advertising toward men because that’s my strength. I know some good bisexual masseurs and sex workers who actually are bi and not just using it as marketing. They are professional and great at what they do for all genders. Take heart, there is something for everyone. You don’t have to sift through the chaff of straight male yahoos offering services to women with no skill or professionalism. Or worse using it as a ploy to take advantage of women. Nobody has time for that. Glad you are leveraging this resource to get straight to the wheat. 1. Great. You will find lots of good recommendations here. The major pitfall on this site is that a large majority of clients here prioritize masseur LOOKS way far and above over actual skill. Sorry guys, it’s the truth. I’ve been here long enough to see this plainly for what it is. Everyone thinks they are the exception, but they aren’t. They hire based on looks too, even unconsciously. Some mediocre masseurs get away with murder because they look so hot. And likewise some average or conventionally less attractive men with excellent skills are regularly passed over, or not even discussed here at all. So many threads start and end with how old a guy is or how recent his photos are, or does he have facial hair, or has he gained 20 lbs…blah blah blah. Looks are fun to discuss, but completely secondary to having a great overall massage experience. Look for the few gold nuggets in the threads (among all the looks-focused drivel) discussing actual technique, skill level, style, and professionalism. How did he make the client feel? Was his space welcoming, secure, clean? Was he on time? Does he use appropriate equipment? Did he address the client’s needs? Etc. 2. Have at it. This site is great for figuring out the “extras” department. Who here doesn’t love reading or sharing about it? You may find that more than one provider will work best for your different needs, but I argue you can get all in one when you carefully select the RIGHT provider for you. Depends on where you live or travel to, and budget, but good research and trying a few men on your shortlist pays off. You might just find him. 3. Male presenting providers advertise as whatever they think brings them more business. Sometimes it’s purely strategic to label oneself as gay/straight/bi. This is really up to you and your preferences, but the label on the box is just a label, not an indication of absolute truth. Plus human sexuality is a spectrum. It’s messier and more nuanced than checking a box. I would personally be more interested in what the provider can do for you, how he makes you feel, and his professionalism - none of which has anything to do with who or what he fantasizes about in his own head or who he sleeps with off the clock in his own bed. What matters is can he perform the services you want in the way you want. His personal life and identity are not that relevant.

Following. Will be in SLC in May.

Hold on while I skim through your permanent record to make sure. I use an app called Misters Company. I keep detailed notes of members’ asshole behavior on there.

@mike carey, what is that card game you play with more than four suits? I need to learn it. No problem on the extra suits since it will be making up for a lack of other…suits around the pool lol. If anyone is interested in hiring one or more providers to watch us and/or participate, please do reach out. I’m open to multiple men chipping in for a special round of fun. Any other providers willing to work together, hit me up. This thread Arranging a group with a provider has me inspired. I can’t think of a better group of men to do this for!

Welcome @Alabastrine! As you have probably gathered, these forums are chock full of cis men interested in discussing and hiring (mostly) other cis-men in the sex work and massage industries. It would be refreshing to hear a woman’s perspective on topics here. What are your primary interests with regard to hiring? Please do not be deterred by some pockets of toxic masculinity here when you encounter it. It unfortunately exists here as it does in the wild. It takes a thick skin to get through some unpleasant head butting on certain issues. Some members here have backwards, close-minded views. My unsolicited advice is: when you encounter those members with problematic views toward women, to let it go and move on. It’s easy to get fatigued being a minority of any kind in this space. Please don’t let that scare you off from sharing your opinions and interests. We want to hear your voice. -Simon

I differ from many providers on this point. For example, a provider in my area that I work regularly with charges $400/hr for client couples or other group play such as one client and two other providers. He normally charges $300/hr for 1:1. The way I see it, I am spending the same time doing the same prep and mostly the same level of effort for one client, a couple, or three men. So I just charge my regular rate. More often than not, I’m doing a scene with multiple providers, so I try to be cognizant of the client budget and how much he is spending to put the whole thing together. If we providers all charge a premium for multiple people, it makes the scene unaffordable for the client. At some point it becomes a lot and I really should be charging more. I evaluate each scenario and quote accordingly. Say ten men are going to be fucking me, then yes I am charging more. Say I am one of those ten men fucking one of the others in a gangbang scene - I probably wouldn’t. If I had to fuck all ten of the men in the scene I would probably charge more. There is no hard line in my mind, but I judge the situation and try to be fair to myself and to the client. Something taking the same or less effort but multiple people are “present” I don’t really care. I would charge my normal rate. Something requiring more effort I would charge some premium for it.

@viewing ownly suggested Brock Hart, another mature provider. I’m open to all ages and types. Whatever gets the job done in terms of satisfying client interest. Here is another Phoenix provider, KC I reached out to on a whim because he happened to view my profile while I was thinking about how to fulfill the 4-hand. We came to an agreement on rate structure and how to work together. I was a little wary after reading this odd praise post on his thread. Could be just a fan of his, but you never know. The age thing is not an issue, I don’t care, but yes he certainly is age shaving. Attractive man though. Rocking body, geez. I’m glad to find at least one ready to go. KCBodyworks MasseurFinder KCbodyworks RentMasseur Who would be your ideal/fantasy Simon / “____” fill-in-the-blank 4-hand pairings with guys in PHX?