Simon Suraci

Following. Will be in SLC in May.

Hold on while I skim through your permanent record to make sure. I use an app called Misters Company. I keep detailed notes of members’ asshole behavior on there.

@mike carey, what is that card game you play with more than four suits? I need to learn it. No problem on the extra suits since it will be making up for a lack of other…suits around the pool lol. If anyone is interested in hiring one or more providers to watch us and/or participate, please do reach out. I’m open to multiple men chipping in for a special round of fun. Any other providers willing to work together, hit me up. This thread Arranging a group with a provider has me inspired. I can’t think of a better group of men to do this for!

Welcome @Alabastrine! As you have probably gathered, these forums are chock full of cis men interested in discussing and hiring (mostly) other cis-men in the sex work and massage industries. It would be refreshing to hear a woman’s perspective on topics here. What are your primary interests with regard to hiring? Please do not be deterred by some pockets of toxic masculinity here when you encounter it. It unfortunately exists here as it does in the wild. It takes a thick skin to get through some unpleasant head butting on certain issues. Some members here have backwards, close-minded views. My unsolicited advice is: when you encounter those members with problematic views toward women, to let it go and move on. It’s easy to get fatigued being a minority of any kind in this space. Please don’t let that scare you off from sharing your opinions and interests. We want to hear your voice. -Simon

I differ from many providers on this point. For example, a provider in my area that I work regularly with charges $400/hr for client couples or other group play such as one client and two other providers. He normally charges $300/hr for 1:1. The way I see it, I am spending the same time doing the same prep and mostly the same level of effort for one client, a couple, or three men. So I just charge my regular rate. More often than not, I’m doing a scene with multiple providers, so I try to be cognizant of the client budget and how much he is spending to put the whole thing together. If we providers all charge a premium for multiple people, it makes the scene unaffordable for the client. At some point it becomes a lot and I really should be charging more. I evaluate each scenario and quote accordingly. Say ten men are going to be fucking me, then yes I am charging more. Say I am one of those ten men fucking one of the others in a gangbang scene - I probably wouldn’t. If I had to fuck all ten of the men in the scene I would probably charge more. There is no hard line in my mind, but I judge the situation and try to be fair to myself and to the client. Something taking the same or less effort but multiple people are “present” I don’t really care. I would charge my normal rate. Something requiring more effort I would charge some premium for it.

@viewing ownly suggested Brock Hart, another mature provider. I’m open to all ages and types. Whatever gets the job done in terms of satisfying client interest. Here is another Phoenix provider, KC I reached out to on a whim because he happened to view my profile while I was thinking about how to fulfill the 4-hand. We came to an agreement on rate structure and how to work together. I was a little wary after reading this odd praise post on his thread. Could be just a fan of his, but you never know. The age thing is not an issue, I don’t care, but yes he certainly is age shaving. Attractive man though. Rocking body, geez. I’m glad to find at least one ready to go. KCBodyworks MasseurFinder KCbodyworks RentMasseur Who would be your ideal/fantasy Simon / “____” fill-in-the-blank 4-hand pairings with guys in PHX?

Hi gents. I’ll be in Phoenix next month and one of my clients wants a 4-hand massage with me, but I told him I’m traveling solo. He’s undeterred. Can the Phoenix area folks recommend anyone I should try reaching out to propose a collaboration? Someone skilled and compatible with my style, not too outrageously priced. I offer a combo of therapeutic and erotic, and offer full service as well. Deep tissue is my specialty, and I incorporate plenty of sensual and erotic touch throughout. Last time I was in Phoenix it was pretty hit or miss finding a good masseur. There are so many options I don’t even know where to start.

With 25 years of experience and listing only 36 years old, apparently he started his massage career as barely even a tween. He either needs to add ten or so years to his listed age or reduce his listed experience by ten or so years for his age to be realistic. Aside from that, he’s quite a specimen. I’d be curious what others think of his work. Interesting description. I love sports massage.

Whoops, I searched for Milo before posting this, nothing came up but then I found him later after the fact in this existing thread when searching for other Denver guys. Linking: Threads merged!

He does legit Thai style massage and also mutual nude male pelvic floor and lingam massage and other bodywork. He has a legit therapeutic only side of his practice and an explicit m4m focus side as well. I was intrigued when he asked me last year to be featured in one of his massage videos receiving his work. He charges in a fans site format for explicit m4m massage content. Here are his sites below. Unfortunately I will just miss him when I am in Denver as he will be in Salt Lake City and I will be in SLC right afterward so our dates are flipped. Bummer. He travels a lot though. I hope to catch him elsewhere. Any experiences to share? I really want to try his Thai therapeutic massage. The rest sounds intriguing. Maybe you will see me on one of his videos one day. RentMasseur Legit Website Fans Content Site

Thanks @ApexNomad. I could say the same about you! I do truly love my job. This work is meaningful and important. Sure not every appointment is some special, deep, meaningful experience, but I have so many that are, that it keeps me going. I care about making a difference in people’s lives, in whatever weird, niche way. Society at best laughs off what I do, dismissing it as something frivolous, or at worst, decry the work as immoral. But few can fill this very special niche role in the world. I keep a running list of client quotes that they’ve either said to me in person or texted, or said over the phone, but never shared in the form of a written public review. One of the most consistent comments or variations thereof is: “you make me feel safe”. That’s a really difficult thing to do when you think about it. I take pride and ownership over this quality, and the value my clients place on it. It’s a privilege and an honor. I approach my work with respect, knowing people choose me out of all the others to share their most intimate moments, and their deepest desires. I hold space for their most vulnerable moments in the palm of my hand. Trust goes both ways. Some of my best clients are those who recognize that sense of safety and choose to trust me. This is where the meaningful stuff happens. They reveal parts of themselves they never felt safe to share before, even with a therapist. They find freedom to express themselves or do things in ways they can’t do elsewhere. They discover things about themselves they never knew because they finally felt safe enough to try it with me. Those are the clients I most enjoy seeing; people that embrace the moment and use their time to be fully human, to feel alive and free. To do, and say, and feel the things they can’t in the everyday contexts of their lives. That’s profoundly valuable space for providers to hold, and likewise for clients to seek out. It’s special. The ideal client for me is one that takes his role as seriously as I do mine. By that I don’t mean to eschew moments of humor and levity, but for the client to savor what he is hiring, to do something for himself that makes a difference in his own life. Not just another orgasm, or relaxing moment, or a trite bit of entertainment, but something that truly adds value to his life, perhaps challenges him, makes him a better man, a more whole person, even in some small way. I may not always see it, and he may not tell me so directly, but I know what I do means a lot to my ideal client. I care, and he cares, and that’s what makes the work worthwhile.

Pretty much what Jamie said. The ideal client respects my time, and me as a person. He maintains good hygiene, and responds to signals of when it’s time to touch (if he wants to) and when it’s time to relax. He indicates that he is enjoying my work either verbally or non verbally. He returns for more sessions. He books the session length appropriate to his needs. My best clients refer others to me. I offer significant discounts for referrals because they are so rare and at the same time so much more valuable to me than anything else the client can do for my business. Tipping is unnecessary, but a plus. It motivates me to go above and beyond. Clients who book more regularly I prefer much more than a one and done with a nice tip. Likewise the ideal client makes an effort to book me in their city when I am there, or when they visit mine. Ideal clients I typically make some kind of spiritual connection with them, through the physical connection, but also through energy exchange and through conversation. Maybe that’s too woo-woo for many, but each client brings a certain energy to the table and I meet him where he is at. Ideal clients share themselves with me with honesty and vulnerability. Verbally and/or non verbally. I make myself emotionally available and present to invite that energy exchange to take place. So far I answered thinking of massage clients. I guess it’s somewhat different for escort sessions and combo sessions, but much of it is the same, especially the last bit about being yourself openly and honestly, being vulnerable and willing to connect on multiple levels, not just the physical. I have many great clients that primarily or only connect on a physical level, but my ideal clients connect on an emotional and spiritual level too. For some, seeing me is a release of physical-emotional blockages (because the two are connected), profound relief and relaxation, self-discovery, mental clarity or even reaching a heightened state of mind or awareness. Again, none of this is necessary to be a good client. I’m just thinking of my “ideal” clients, for whom seeing me really makes a significant difference in their lives. That difference manifests in so many different ways. It gives me purpose. Making a difference fulfills me in a way that money can’t.

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Escorting (and masseur work) is difficult, and not without great personal and professional sacrifices. It takes a special person and a rare combination of qualities to handle himself well and succeed. Very few people are willing and able to do it. Even fewer are good at it, and even fewer still will stick with it for any considerable length of time. Sure, you have quite a few duds flooding the market charging the same fees as experienced pros, and it’s frustrating having to weed through the bs. The pros are worth every cent of what they charge. Treasure them when you find them and don’t take them for granted. Treat them well and they will treat you well.

I love having long, hot showers with clients. Body scrub service can be therapeutic, refreshing, and quite steamy! Either as part of an escort session or an add on service after a massage.

I get this request from time to time. I entertain clients wanting to massage me and I do it for my hourly massage rate. I decline requests for me to do this for free, however. I am not volunteering for unskilled people to work on my body and - let’s be honest - most of them get tired or bored of the whole thing and give up after ten minutes or less anyway. Or they just want to jerk me off for free, which 1) is unpleasant for me 2) interferes with my ability to perform for clients, or 3) interferes with my personal sex life. This is not community service. Pay sex work rates for my cum, or at least pay massage rates for time to indulge your “touch a sexy masseur” fantasy (sans cum). When I get a massage, I prefer a skilled man going the entire time, so I hire a professional. Sometimes I trade massage time with other masseurs. Never has it crossed my mind to seek out a client to massage me.

Thanks @BigNoiseDallas . I see no harm in texting again within a day to see if he got the message. With no response in the following several hours after your follow up, I would assume he is not going to respond at all.

Love me some vacation porn. I’m pent up. Been years since I’ve been on a bona fide vacation. God willing I’m ready to shoot my wad in late 2025. Three seasons of White Lotus has me edging. That jiggling arm fat, and ensuing reaction was everything! There has to be some reason Valentin sent them there. Is it his commentary on the three women being past their prime? Is he steering them toward some plot they need to be desperate to agree to after such a disappointment? What a great butler arranging for male escorts in the form of his personal friends. This burn is so damn slow. It’s killing me.

You know, I should. I’ve only been doing this for trusted regulars as a complimentary value-added benefit to hiring me over the long haul. Yes, it takes more time and effort, but I make it up over time in the form of loyalty. Being the go-to guy clients trust to make their lives easier and more fun inspires trust. I open doors and they love me for it. Consistency and ongoing business is adequate compensation for me. Tips are a great way to show appreciation. I’m not sure I would do this type of work for a new client. He doesn’t understand the value yet, so putting a price on it may be too much of a barrier. I need to get to know him in person to get a feel for what would be right for him, and to develop trust. As an “agent” of sorts, I am making sure the client and the escorts are each reliable and compatible for one another. If I did offer coordination services to new clients, I would have to charge a bit extra for my time. Until I develop a much broader reputation for being a trustworthy connector, I wouldn’t put a public price on it like an hourly fee, fixed referral fee, percentage, or what have you. Clients are already wary of paying hundreds of dollars an hour for a man’s time. Paying more on top of that for a middle man could be too much of a barrier for new clients. They don’t really understand the value until they have already benefited from the service. Maybe this could grow into a new business opportunity over time. Then again, there is a reason talent agencies for this line of work largely no longer exist. I’ll have to keep thinking about it.

It’s just good manners.

I am so down. Y’all already know I do BDSM stuff. This is definitely not my first rodeo combing massage with the other side of my biz. I will entertain offers! Could always use another table to lend out to visiting masseurs. There are so many ways to milk. Sitting, standing, lying, bound, table, chair, pole, St. Andrew’s cross, suspended, machines, manual stimulation, etc. Some of these require less space or equipment, while others more. The dedicated table is on the “more” end. A massage table dedicated to milking with the special hole is so incredibly specific regarding how and in what position you milk, that it’s downright impractical. Think about it. Unless you’re frequently doing this on a table for men in a prone position (never supine), it makes little sense. Few people have the storage space to stow it, and the extra space to set it up. The vanilla client will at best be weirded out, perhaps confused, and at worst turned off seeing it thinking you don’t take your massage job seriously, that it’s purely just a sex thing. So yeah, few people would have one of these unless they are using it for a hyper specific scene and prefer to do that same scene frequently. Those of us who milk use more conventional, if not more flexible methods to save on space and keep it fresh not always milking in exactly the same way, in the same position, with the same equipment. But the milking table is certainly fun! I think of a milking table more as a film prop.

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As far as I know Damiano is not escorting. He only has a RentMasseur ad that I know of, which is currently expired. He is offering massage. He tells me he hasn’t escorted in many years until I asked him for the group. Teddy escorts, but the mixed commentary on CoM and elsewhere have motivated me to steer clear even though one of my clients expressed interest. Damiano told me Teddy is available to join for future sessions and I told my client but we landed on no Teddy. We’ll see, maybe next time. You’ll have to ask Damiano and Teddy about a dual session with the two of them. He offered it to me.

I’m open to this scenario! LA is doable for me, as I’m a hop skip and a jump away in San Diego. Is the idea for a multi-provider orgy, or hiring one provider and sharing him among x number of clients? What do you envision? I have a hard time imagining multiple clients who may or may not know one another well sharing. Maybe if it’s a voyeur scenario. Hmm. Most clients are too private by and large. Lots of other concerns keep this from happening. But hey if there’s enough interest, go for it! So often it’s clients wanting me to do the legwork of arranging for other providers to meet for a group including myself, the client (or client couple), and x number of other providers.

Here is a recent thread. I suggest merging, and maybe a retitle with parentheses (MuscleGingerXL). He uses coconut oil.