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Did he return the deposits or take the money and run? If he kept it, that tells us all we need to know…

Wow, sounds like quite a character. I was checking up on JD because he was checking me out and a mutual client hired him. No way he is 36 years old 😂 but more power to him. It just depends on the person, some of us age much better into our 50s and beyond. JD is busy as ever and banking into the 700+ reviews, not counting who knows how many he had taken down over the years. Thanks for the intel all.

That would be me, at least on RentMen. I have fewer clients from RentMen and more clients hiring me for massage in the usual places. I offer deli services too though, and have a great many satisfied and returning clients. You would never know that from my RentMen reviews alone. I have more reviews on RentMasseur, my Booksy website, and some posted other places. With all the red tape on the client end it’s no wonder people aren’t writing reviews as much as they used to. Of those, a lot of clients are not very descriptive when they do write something. “I had a good time”, things like that. It’s harder to get reviews now than ever. Plus I am relatively new on RentMen, only since 2022 - not that much time to gather reviews. I offer no benefits or incentives to clients for writing reviews, so that puts me at a lower amount than some others who do. All this to say: you can’t make assumptions on provider quality, reliability, experience, or other factors based on number of reviews on one platform alone. There’s more going on in many cases.

Same here. Sean Ford is the ultimate fantasy for one of my friends. He’s not for me personally, but I would love to make my friend’s day if it were possible.

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I validate your points here. Some clients have particular preferences, but most of them don’t. My suggestion: take the initiative to tell your masseur about your preferences upfront. If not in your booking process then shortly after you arrive. The pros will adjust on a dime, at least for any item over which they have control. We can’t read your mind though. Communicate. Don’t like my music? Just say so and I’ll change it! Aside on lighting. I have two skylights in my studio. I have no option to dim the light from those during the day. I otherwise have only dim mood lighting and I turn on my dimmable recessed ceiling lights to a medium to low level before the massage to make it easy to see and move around, dress/undress and again after the client has had a chance to slowly adjust after their massage. I keep the dimmable lights off during the massage, leaving only a couple table lamps with dark color shades and mood lights. It’s particularly nice at night. In my experience, the vast majority of clients don’t like making a lot of decisions upon arrival. When I ask too many questions, they tend to get annoyed, antsy, or indecisive. A lot of them have NO preference for any of the items I might mention. They enjoy some brief small talk to connect as they undress and then quickly want to get on the table and feel totally relaxed and ready to enjoy some good therapy. Sometimes I slow them down with a big hug first. I could ask a dozen questions like: Which room scent do you prefer? How much pressure? How much light? What music do you enjoy? How is the volume level? Can I adjust the headrest for you? Would you like a bolster? How about a pillow? Would you like me to be more conversational, or quiet? Do you have any injuries, sensitivities, or areas you want me to avoid? Are you ok with your feet being massaged? What about your head? (These are the most common requests to avoid on the body) Blah, blah, blah…but I don’t. The inquisition could go on and on. And you know what? The default preselected options I already provide for all these items works really well for 95% of everyone seeing me. They either like it as-is, or have no preference anyway. So I just saved some time and client frustration for the 95% by preselecting everything. I don’t even have to ask. The other 5% who have very particular preferences tell me at the beginning, or somewhere along the way, and I adjust. Sometimes it’s after the fact and I just shake my head and say they should have said something. Then I add it to my notes so I will have everything adjusted ahead of time for their next visit. Much of my approach is about reading the client along the way. For example, if the client seems uncomfortable with the headrest, I will ask about it and offer to adjust. The client sniffles repeatedly, so I offer tissues which I keep close right under the table plus a small trash can. The client responds physically to my pressure in a way that prompts me to ask if the pressure is ok. The client is sensitive when I touch around his underarms or feet or whatever so I ask if he wants me to avoid it. I ask if it’s ok to touch them in an erotic way. I notice a limited range of motion when I bend the knee and ask if it’s ok to continue. I notice the client goes quiet so I stop asking him questions and chatting. The client expresses pleasure when I touch him in a certain way, or a certain area; verbally, with their breath intensity and pace, moans, and the like. Conversely the client winces or tenses up and I ask them about it to make sure they are comfortable and see what I need to change, if anything. I could go on… Basically I read my clients to prompt my questions and maybe that leads to one or two questions rather than a dozen for every client every time before we start. It saves us both time and energy up top. I like to ask just two general questions of every client: 1) Is there anything about your body I should know before we start? 2) (about 10 mins into the session) How is everything feeling? The rest comes up by reading the client.

I am attending both pool gatherings and both meals. A few members have already booked appointments with me outside those times. I’m available the rest of the weekend. Arriving from San Diego around noon on 4/12, departing afternoon 4/15. I update my availability daily on my RentMasseur blog specifically for this trip.

I’m attending. Looking forward to it.

What a weird experience. That guy doesn’t know what he’s doing. I’m sorry you had to navigate such an uncomfortable predicament with an unprofessional provider.

True. It depends on the client and what they want. Everyone is different. Loneliness may factor in, yes, but not always. Some clients really enjoy a longer experience, and you don’t necessarily have to be a lonely person to benefit from hiring, be it short or longer term. Acting is some component of the work we do, but I do genuinely have some good times with clients. Not to say I would choose to do the work for free or that I am thrilled every single second of every meet, but it’s not all drudgery either. The way I see it, clients pay for us to be focused on their needs, and minimally concerned with our own. I enjoy bringing pleasure to others. I don’t have to act to be concerned with others’ needs, but it is patient work to set aside my own needs and interests for the sake of someone else’s enjoyment. One can enjoy his job and be good at it, but at the same time be appropriately compensated for it to make sense for all parties. I see it the same for any other type of job.

^Agree. This is work for us, NOT a vacation. Part of that work is making it seem as though it is. A true vacation to me is going where I want, with who I want, when I want, and I am paying for it with my own money because I value and choose everything about the experience and do not have to perform anything for anyone, or be beholden to anyone for my time or attention or sex. Good for you @Thelatin for finding an arrangement with two guys you like for such a relatively low cost. I understand it may be a big total dollar amount out of your pocket for the three days, but it’s actually a low fee per day per person when you break it down. If it works for them and for you, great. For me, I stand to make the same or more over three days taking several clients without having to entertain nearly 24/7, so the economics of it make less sense for me. I couldn’t do a “vacation”, however glamorous it may be, for $500/day… I currently charge $500 for two hours which my good clients regularly pay without hesitation. I charge $1k for five hours. Some of my select long term loyal clients I will do more like 7-8 hours +/- for $1k. That’s in line with what you’re paying for TWO guys, and you’re getting the extra benefit of nearly 24/7 company from each. Wowza. The meals and drinks, etc are not part of our compensation, by the way. Sure it costs you and it feels like you’re treating us, but that’s just a necessary and customary cost of longer term hiring. Feeling like you’re treating us is part of the emotional benefit to you. Not that we don’t enjoy food, beverages, sometimes gifts and so on, but we can’t pay our bills with meals and drinks we consume with our client or an article of clothing he buys for us during an afternoon out. All of these things are for the benefit of the client, to enrich his overall experience, to make him feel great, as much as some of it is a practical matter for us. We all have to eat. All that said, I really enjoy longer term hires. The best ones are clients with whom I’ve built up a good working relationship over many shorter hires. They say it’s worth every penny and more. It’s like giving someone the best day (weekend, week, whatever) of their life. Or at least the best day they have had in a long time. For some, it’s once. For others, it’s once a month. For all, it’s special.

Nobody can speak for the entire LGBTQ+ community. We all have different experiences, identities, preferences, worldviews, and ways of living. It comes down to respect. I’d rather celebrate our vast diversity. Celebrate things we have in common too. Respect and move on from the things we don’t have in common. There is no reason to put others down. Body shaming, toxic masculinity, racism, transphobia, kink shaming, and othering have no legitimate place here. I’d rather certain members keep their toxic revulsion to themselves, but here we are and it’s not going away anytime soon. It’s part of the world and this is a microcosm of that world. We can’t change the problematic people. The best I think we can do is focus on celebrating our overlapping interests with positive comments and respecting differences, whatever those may be. Also move on from, or not participate in conversations about stuff that doesn’t interest us. Agree to disagree where we meet an impasse. Yuks and yums. We all have ‘em. There is no universal standard, and I am grateful for that. I don’t fit a lot of clients’ preferences. But I do fit other clients’ preferences. The right clients gravitate to me and love my work. I love the diversity my clients represent in terms of age, race, identity, ability, body type, and interests. They’re all different because I am not selecting them; they’re selecting me. I appeal to many types of people and I gladly serve them all. This is a business. I have to pay my bills whether or not my clients fit any particular beauty standard, be it yours, the “majority’s”, or mine. Their money is as good to me as anyone else’s. That’s one of the many reasons I see no point in discounting services for a certain type of person. My time, skills, and effort offer value regardless of what the client looks like. It behooves me to fill my schedule with people who value my time and talents the way I do. Every slot filled with discount clients is time I am not developing clients that value me as much as I do. Time NOT working is valuable to me too. One of the keys to success is attracting and retaining the right clients. Quantity matters, but quality even moreso. I value clients that value me.

I figured putting my tip in your hand might be pushy or jumping the gun tho. Must be my prudish American sensibility.

I’m curious too. Is the massage any good (extras discussion aside?) Ditto my comments on HoldenFlex

Crazy. It’s like they’re charging you just to be in their presence. I might find what gym they work out at and be in their fully clothed presence for free! Or save yourself the trouble and watch the porn on your own time and get a skilled massage from a pro. Equivalent of their Option 4 you can see me for half the price of what these guys quote. The Sean Cody alumni status has gone to their heads. I’m no Sean Cody model, but my clients are very satisfied. Plus you have at least the option to hire me for escort services for the same as they charge for a massage. I would move on. There are at least a few good options around SD for sensual/erotic massage that won’t charge you a full on escort rate. Anyone have an idea if the massage is good (extras discussion aside)?

I typically start with neck and shoulders face down, then back, arms, and work my way down the body to legs and turn the client over. Lots of long, full body strokes along the way. I do feet for a longer massage or when specifically requested. Not everyone appreciates their feet being massaged, but those that do really enjoy it. I like the face up approach. I’ve had this once before and the masseur said it was to minimize time getting a stuffy nose face down. I still start face down. I always enjoy incorporating what I like to call a “happy middle”. Sometimes followed later by a happy ending. Happy middle is often face down. Depends on the client though. Not everyone wants that, and some can only cum once…and want/expect it to happen at the end, face up, like every other masseur they’ve ever been with. I try to open up their horizons a bit, but some people are stuck in their ways and upset when something is unexpected and different. I do a lot of traditional face-up-at-the-end style happy endings as well. At least with those it’s never mechanical or boring. I take pride in giving a powerful, memorable, and pleasurable finale experience. Usually some edging play involved. Sometimes some ass play as well, balls, other erogenous zones. There are so many ways to make it fun, interesting, and interactive. I’m amazed at how many men have never been properly edged before and it blows their mind! Sometimes there is another “happy” moment in the shower afterward. It doesn’t have to be confined to the table. Once in a while a client gets off the table for a minute or two to enjoy being on their knees… One of the important aspects is a sense of building connection, and then building up erotic energy over the course of the session. Sometimes I start off with a naked hug. A minority of clients either can’t or don’t want to cum, and that’s fine. I incorporate whatever level of eroticism the client wants. At a minimum, with me you always receive an excellent therapeutic massage. Reading and communicating with your client is important.

If you ever visit San Diego… or ask me to visit your city. I will add you to my list for that place and just may visit at some point and reach out when I plan the trip.

I have a room to myself at InnDulge for incalls. Should a pool gathering materialize closer to the date on Friday 4/12, count me in. Otherwise excited to meet everyone at all three main events! Newell (RentMasseur: MuscleGingerXL) will be at the Hyatt in downtown PS staying Fri and Sat nights. We are available together and separately for massage and/or more. Unfortunately he is not attending any of the events.

Thanks for bringing this up. Many of you clients don’t consider transaction fees in your daily lives. Not just with providers but with all small businesses. Depending on the method, it costs the merchant between 2.5-3.0% of your total transaction. Sometimes slightly less than that, sometimes slightly more. For a larger transaction of, say, $1,450 that’s over $40 out of the provider’s pocket. Consider this cost when you tip. Maybe you want to tip 20% (or fill in the blank %). Effectively, your tip is actually about 17%. Consider tipping 3-5 percentage points more to make up for the processing fees, which serve as a convenience to you, the consumer, for using digital payments. Especially if you’re getting credit card rewards benefits on top of that. Those benefits are a tax on your merchants. Zelle costs nothing. If your bank offers Zelle (all major US banks do), consider that over Venmo, CashApp, credit cards, and other digitals. Many transactions are smaller, perhaps only a few hundred dollars, but over the course of a year, digital transaction fees add up to thousands of dollars of lost revenue. I can’t complain when the client is tipping, of course, but if they aren’t tipping at all, it incentivizes me to increase rates to make up for this cost. Or perhaps charge a premium for certain digital payments. Fortunately half my business or more is in cash, so digital payment processing fees aren’t driving my pricing decisions. In my opinion, it’s bad business to nickel and dime my clients in such a way. I’m better off getting more business overall and eating the fees than I am getting less business due to the psychological deterrent of charging more in fees. In an increasingly cashless world, however, these digital transaction fees contribute to the rising costs of everything from bread to massages. Meanwhile, digital payment processors and credit card companies make tens of billions of dollars on these fees every year in the US, and even more globally. Cash, at least in this biz, is still king…for privacy reasons more than anything. Please tip your providers when you use a digital payment method.

@Jamie21 I’ve had similar challenges with large clients and/or small dick clients. Similar solutions as yours...we get through it one way or another. Sometimes it’s much easier to use a bed instead of trying to do everything with a massage table. This is our job, to bring every client an excellent experience, no matter the challenges with their body or the way they look. These issues are precisely why someone might choose to hire, among many other valid reasons. I find it commendable that you make the most of the situations you find yourself in and problem solve your way to a solution. We make our job look easy, but it isn’t. It takes creativity, flexibility, compassion, and determination to succeed among a wide range of clients. Bravo! I share your ethos.

It’s all about that money, honey. Bring whatever kind of dick you own and have a blast! Hell, I don’t care if you even have a dick. Strap it on if that’s what gets you off. Willing to pay? You’re in! It’s more about how you use it anyway.

My system is really easy for incalls. You book what you want for any available time on my website. My system automatically applies padding time between appointments when you book. Select your service, your preferred time, and click book. Bam! An automated email goes out to the client instantly with my address info and very clear directions, plus I follow up with a text confirmation as soon as I see the alert pop up, usually within the hour. In the text, I detail out the parking info and include marked up photos of exactly where to go so it’s very difficult to get lost or go to the wrong entry. Then the client shows up at my door at the time they booked. Simple. I don’t know why it’s so complicated for others. A few cases where it may be slightly more involved: 1) Client wants escort services and I have to coordinate with my schedule first to make sure I can fulfill the request when they want me. A client text request including what they want, where, and when will suffice. Too often I have to pull teeth getting this basic info, but experienced clients know what to include. There may be an initial delay getting back to the client depending on what I have going on, but it’s as soon as I have a moment to see it and get back. I confirm, clarify any rates or other questions they may have, and book it for the client. I send all the details and address. Then the client shows up at their agreed upon time. Easy. 2) Client wants an outcall (for any of my services). Same process as #1 except I factor in lots of padding for travel time, traffic, setups, breakdowns, and so on. I agree to show up at a certain time I can reasonably expect to fulfill, and typically arrive at least a few minutes early….because that is the only way to consistently be on time! I text when I’m on my way and when I park/arrive. Easy. 3) Client reaches out for “now”/“soon”/“asap”. Here’s where it gets complicated and annoying. Often the client is doing this on a whim when they’re feeling horny. They get very impatient and demand I teleport to them. I pass on these. For the reasonable few, I say I can see the client at a certain time, say, an hour in the future. And then the rest of the process from #1 or #2 apply. I confirm for clients who want to do multiple confirmations prior to meeting, but it’s unnecessary with me. Once you’re booked, you have all the info you need. Showing up on time for an incall is up to the client. I show up on time for outcalls. In the rare case I am delayed, I message saying I will be xx minutes late. Not difficult. I don’t understand why this is so mystifying for other providers or clients.

It goes both ways. The best clients and the best providers view the information available to them.