Is 5K enough to offer a straight guy for muscle worship?

[jockstr]

@MikeBiDude You make it sound like I'm looking to find a reason to pay him less--I'm not. If he agrees to meet, I don't foresee any issues. I was just responding to a question of what I would do if the session went unsatisfactorily. There's nothing wrong with me hoping for more out of an encounter than I let on, as long as I don't let that influence our prior arrangement. I simply said I would suggest taking things further IF he seemed amenable. If not, that's okay. I wouldn't dock him for saying no to something he didn't agree to beforehand. It boils down to this: MW sesh = 5K; MW sesh + declined request for more = 5K. What's wrong with that? Am I taking crazy pills here? I would only take issue if things went horribly awry and he basically refused to do anything we agreed on. And even then, I'd probably still give the guy all the money. Whatever. Can't win here. LOL.

[traxton]

Am I taking crazy pills here?

 

 

I think you've already taken and swallowed a whole bunch of crazy pills if you think offering $5k just for an hour of body worship is justifiable.

[jockstr]

I think you've already taken and swallowed a whole bunch of crazy pills if you think offering $5k just for an hour of body worship is justifiable.

 

Fair enough. I set myself up for that one.

[+ FreshFluff]

I think you've already taken and swallowed a whole bunch of crazy pills if you think offering $5k just for an hour of body worship is justifiable.

 

Look, I understand why you're willing to pay 5K to experience this particular man. I'm just concerned that the effect of that price offer won't be what you're hoping for.

 

But let's say it goes well. His future expectations will be anchored on the 5K number. ("OK, I'll accept 3K this time because I like you.") Are you ok with that?

[MscleLovr]

@MikeBiDude You make it sound like I'm looking to find a reason to pay him less--I'm not. If he agrees to meet, I don't foresee any issues. I was just responding to a question of what I would do if the session went unsatisfactorily. There's nothing wrong with me hoping for more out of an encounter than I let on, as long as I don't let that influence our prior arrangement. I simply said I would suggest taking things further IF he seemed amenable. If not, that's okay. I wouldn't dock him for saying no to something he didn't agree to beforehand. It boils down to this: MW sesh = 5K; MW sesh + declined request for more = 5K. What's wrong with that? Am I taking crazy pills here? I would only take issue if things went horribly awry and he basically refused to do anything we agreed on. And even then, I'd probably still give the guy all the money. Whatever. Can't win here. LOL.

 

FWIW I understand your fixation on one particular guy. And if you can afford the fee, why not? It's upto you as an adult how you spend your own money.

 

Again FWIW I'm friendly with a handsome, muscled personal trainer, who was a hurdler at national level. He's straight and lives with an older woman and they have a small child. He told me (5 years ago, when he was 25) how a guy at our gym offered him $20,000 for "one night of full sex". He declined the offer. Yet he now goes away for a long weekend 2x a year motor-biking with a middle-aged client, where they share a room and he (the trainer) gets blown. I don't know what money changes hands.

[greatnorthernp]

To those who keep saying I could find someone else for much less, you're completely missing the point. This is not just some random, interchangeable hot guy. His face and body represent the very summit of my fantasies and desires all coalescing into a perfect storm of eroticism--HE'S MY EVEREST!

 

May your desires come to fruition!

 

(I've got one of those, but never will it come to pass.)

[Man Crush Morris]

 

Again FWIW I'm friendly with a handsome, muscled personal trainer, who was a hurdler at national level. He's straight and lives with an older woman and they have a small child. He told me (5 years ago, when he was 25) how a guy at our gym offered him $20,000 for "one night of full sex". He declined the offer. Yet he now goes away for a long weekend 2x a year motor-biking with a middle-aged client, where they share a room and he (the trainer) gets blown. I don't know what money changes hands.

 

The straight trainer I used to see regularly for body contact and rough froting wouldn't allow me to give oral. Since initially it wasn't my thing I didn't mind, but it didn't take long for me to strongly desire to blow him. Was frustrating.

 

I really enjoyed our sessions, of course. It's just that I wanted more and it was off the table. I think with time (and as circumstances and financial considerations change) some of these rules soften with some semi pros. I'd definitely have paid more to fellate the guy in my life, but it just wasn't something he was comfortable enough doing and I was never pushy about it.

 

Looks like the middle aged fella in your story reached a meeting of the minds with the trainer. Lucky.

[nate_sf]

If he has a high profile on social media then the chances are he has had all sorts of requests and images sent to him. A straight personal trainer I know was offered $100 for his used underwear via Facebook (and that's a very tame example).

 

$5,000 is simply way too much (not least if you end up meeting him regularly!) and is bound to make him think you're expecting much more.

 

I was thinking the same thing If he's super hot and posting to Instagram chances are he's been propositioned lots before and will be familiar with muscle worship, whether or not he's interested.

 

A downside with the $5000 figure might also be that he won't take you seriously, since it is really very high. Maybe there's a whole other world of elite DL meetups where this is the rate for someone of super caliber so I could be wrong. However I'm betting every escort on here can relay the inquiries they've received from a "generous businessman" who will be in town and is offering an absurd amount of money for time together, and how those messages end up in the trash.

[jjkrkwood]

I was thinking the same thing If he's super hot and posting to Instagram chances are he's been propositioned lots before and will be familiar with muscle worship, whether or not he's interested.

 

A downside with the $5000 figure might also be that he won't take you seriously, since it is really very high. .

 

OR he will be doing the Happy Dance thinking he's hooked himself a money pit....

[jockstr]

FWIW I understand your fixation on one particular guy. And if you can afford the fee, why not? It's upto you as an adult how you spend your own money.

 

Again FWIW I'm friendly with a handsome, muscled personal trainer, who was a hurdler at national level. He's straight and lives with an older woman and they have a small child. He told me (5 years ago, when he was 25) how a guy at our gym offered him $20,000 for "one night of full sex". He declined the offer. Yet he now goes away for a long weekend 2x a year motor-biking with a middle-aged client, where they share a room and he (the trainer) gets blown. I don't know what money changes hands.

 

Yikes. Sounds like a movie Ang Lee would direct and I would watch.

[jockstr]

I was thinking the same thing If he's super hot and posting to Instagram chances are he's been propositioned lots before and will be familiar with muscle worship, whether or not he's interested.

 

A downside with the $5000 figure might also be that he won't take you seriously, since it is really very high. Maybe there's a whole other world of elite DL meetups where this is the rate for someone of super caliber so I could be wrong. However I'm betting every escort on here can relay the inquiries they've received from a "generous businessman" who will be in town and is offering an absurd amount of money for time together, and how those messages end up in the trash.

 

Interesting. I hadn't considered that. I just always assumed he would take what I said at face value. However, depending on how many bogus offers he's received in the past, I guess that's very possible. Damn. What if I took a picture of the money so he knows I at least have the funds? Or would that be off-putting?

[slightly]

Interesting. I hadn't considered that. I just always assumed he would take what I said at face value. However, depending on how many bogus offers he's received in the past, I guess that's very possible. Damn. What if I took a picture of the money so he knows I at least have the funds? Or would that be off-putting?

This sounds wonderfully obscene...so do it! Though he could just think you stole the pic from google images...

[jockstr]

This sounds wonderfully obscene...so do it! Though he could just think you stole the pic from google images...

 

Haha. If I wanted to get really into it I could spell his name out with hundred dollar bills. But while that would probably erase any doubt that it was real, it would raise some pretty major red flags about my mental health.

[BabyBoomer]

Haha. If I wanted to get really into it I could spell his name out with hundred dollar bills. But while that would probably erase any doubt that it was real, it would raise some pretty major red flags about my mental health.

 

Think Fitty Cent.

 

~ Boomer ~

[jawjateck]

When you arrange this fantasy, definitely come back and give us the scoop. We are a nosy, sometimes jealous, bunch.

[jockstr]

Think Fitty Cent.

 

~ Boomer ~

 

YES! Was thinking the exact same thing.

[dlee02]

I used to pay a very straight nonpro and personal trainer $100 for a muscle worship, froting session (he froted me, not the other way around). The guy was absolutely gorgeous and completely delivered for me.

 

I'd say $5000 is way too much.

 

The straight trainer I used to see regularly for body contact and rough froting wouldn't allow me to give oral. Since initially it wasn't my thing I didn't mind, but it didn't take long for me to strongly desire to blow him. Was frustrating.

 

I really enjoyed our sessions, of course. It's just that I wanted more and it was off the table. I think with time (and as circumstances and financial considerations change) some of these rules soften with some semi pros. I'd definitely have paid more to fellate the guy in my life, but it just wasn't something he was comfortable enough doing and I was never pushy about it.

 

Looks like the middle aged fella in your story reached a meeting of the minds with the trainer. Lucky.

 

I must be working out at the wrong gyms... Do you guys just proposition your personal trainer? Or found them via some other avenue?

[Rudynate]

I must be working out at the wrong gyms... Do you guys just proposition your personal trainer? Or found them via some other avenue?

 

I've always had the idea that it just went with the territory, that it wouldn't hurt to ask if you were interested. He might say no or he might say yes. I don't have any idea how mine would react. He's a straight Brazilian guy about 6 feet tall, 220 pounds with blond hair and blue eyes. Most of the time, I don't think much about his looks, but every once in a while, I get a little itch.

[+ azdr0710]

this thread is fast approaching the legendary status of rockhard's underwear dilemma thread and that guy who had to find a veeerrry DL escort for his veerrry closeted big-deal boss thread

[Meo]

As some have mentioned, workers like fitness models, trainers, wrestlers get unusual offers from time to time. Approaching a complete stranger online this way is doubly unusual. The $5K feels coercive, sort of "drowning his mind with dollars." There's a reason why the government puts a relatively low cap on how much you can receive to participate in clinical research--it should compensate you for your time but not drown your mind with dollars. You actually want his informed consent, not his nervous impulse. As has been mentioned, he could have cold feet at the last minute or even during the session, making it less likely to feel the way you want it to feel. He could also regret it later. I would think about this more and think about the experience from his end too.

[jockstr]

As some have mentioned, workers like fitness models, trainers, wrestlers get unusual offers from time to time. Approaching a complete stranger online this way is doubly unusual. The $5K feels coercive, sort of "drowning his mind with dollars." There's a reason why the government puts a relatively low cap on how much you can receive to participate in clinical research--it should compensate you for your time but not drown your mind with dollars. You actually want his informed consent, not his nervous impulse. As has been mentioned, he could have cold feet at the last minute or even during the session, making it less likely to feel the way you want it to feel. He could also regret it later. I would think about this more and think about the experience from his end too.

 

I appreciate your reply and will certainly take all that into account. However, I don't understand this prevailing notion here that I need to handle him with kid gloves. You warn I should get "his informed consent, not his nervous impulse" and also consider the possibility that he may regret things down the road? The guy is 26. I am 26. We are both adults. Would you prefer that I amend my offer to include: "5K for MW (or much less if that feels too coercive.)" I don't know what the "right" number is so I rather err heavily on the side of caution than potentially lose his interest with a more "realistic" offer. And while I'm sure the pros here would be happy to see you advocate on this guy's behalf, I can't help but feel a little irked and insulted by all this. You make it sound like I'm some nefarious mastermind conniving to seduce a doe-eyed virgin. Not the case, I assure you. Again, I respect your POV, just don't necessarily agree with it.

[+ azdr0710]

thanks for hanging in here at the forum with your quest @jockstr ....lesser mortals would've fled long ago, seeing as we're all a bunch of cynical assholes .....by the way, don't you mention money first at all - let him make the initial offer - as long as he's with you to that point.....anxious to hear how this goes

[Rudynate]

I appreciate your reply and will certainly take all that into account. However, I don't understand this prevailing notion here that I need to handle him with kid gloves. You warn I should get "his informed consent, not his nervous impulse" and also consider the possibility that he may regret things down the road? The guy is 26. I am 26. We are both adults. Would you prefer that I amend my offer to include: "5K for MW (or much less if that feels too coercive.)" I don't know what the "right" number is so I rather err heavily on the side of caution than potentially lose his interest with a more "realistic" offer. And while I'm sure the pros here would be happy to see you advocate on this guy's behalf, I can't help but feel a little irked and insulted by all this. You make it sound like I'm some nefarious mastermind conniving to seduce a doe-eyed virgin. Not the case, I assure you. Again, I respect your POV, just don't necessarily agree with it.

 

It's true, you're both grown men and capable of making rational choices. I think most of the advice here is not offered with the idea that he necessarily needs to be treated with kid gloves. It seems that it is offered more with the intention of increasing the possibility of a "yes." I'm sure you it won't kill you if he says "no" but, since you're contemplating paying him $5k, it seems you would strongly prefer a "yes."

[DonaldTramp]

The fact that you're 26 & he's 26 makes you sound pretty desperate.

[nebula]

it's been 4 days, the op still posting lengthy posts here instead of spending all this energy to approach his everest. now this is getting overly suspicious to me. it sure reminds me of that 'I need high end escort for my boss' thread which we all know was nothing but a joke.