+ Keith30309 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 I’ve given 3 different friends I met on SA $200 allowance when we’ve spent the night together. (Plus meals, Uber, and whatever else) I don’t view it as bragging. Bragging implies bargaining or somehow getting a “deal”. If I were to view it in transactional terms, it’s not a deal given how much time i spent filtering out flakes and losers. + FrankR, MscleLovr and MikeBiDude 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeBiDude Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 I’ve also found there are levels of expectations on Seeking, from both sides of the arrangement. As @Keith30309 mentions above, not every arrangement is a multi-thousands of dollars a month plan. There are many, many young men on there where far less means a great deal to them, and a modest amount can benefit their day-to-day living. Because of my busy life and schedule I *never* commit to weekly/monthly arrangements, and in fact tell my seeking prospects in the second or third message that that’s not what I’m looking for, and I prefer a by-the-visit arrangement. A minority say “no thanks” when I mention this. A majority continue the conversation. Helpful hint, avoid the ones who ask “how much” immediately, and when actual allowance discussions begin move off seeking to another more private messaging platform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ José Soplanucas Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 You guys are making me nostalgic of my SA times... MikeBiDude 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ Keith30309 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Is not dating if money is involved. You’re hiring/paying This is a tricky topic. I had an 8 month arrangement with a guy and I’d slip $400/wk into his desk drawer at his apartment, regardless of how many times we met or what we did. Many visits were simply going out to a leisurely lunch. We became pretty close, to the point of meeting his sibling a few times for lunch, and neither of us were comfortable with the idea that I was “hiring” him. Perhaps it was a case of mutual delusion and dual rationalization but we came to regard this money as something I could easily do to help a friend. I’m happy with that. He was happy with that. That’s all that counts. GTMike, + FrankR, marylander1940 and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 This is a tricky topic. I had an 8 month arrangement with a guy and I’d slip $400/wk into his desk drawer at his apartment, regardless of how many times we met or what we did. Many visits were simply going out to a leisurely lunch. We became pretty close, to the point of meeting his sibling a few times for lunch, and neither of us were comfortable with the idea that I was “hiring” him. Perhaps it was a case of mutual delusion and dual rationalization but we came to regard this money as something I could easily do to help a friend. I’m happy with that. He was happy with that. That’s all that counts. Good point! If he had such a good time he might place and ad on RM and be open to meeting other men like you. $400 a week might be enough to cover renting a room or an apartment in some parts of the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ Keith30309 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Oh yeah... regarding the overnight visits. Money isn’t really a factor in my SA overnight experience. There are lots of young guys who seek out the company of older men. I’ve seen desire for mentorship, a need to be with someone stable, a desire for a sense of emotional security, a sexual interest in a daddy type, a desire for a luxury mini-vacation, and simple friendship. I’ve declined more offers to have someone spend the night than I accepted. Money wasn’t a factor in any of them. On this Forum we all all pretty attuned to “hourly rates”, discounted multi-hours, and all the transactional elements of hiring an escort that it takes a little shift of mindset to understand the SA experience. MikeBiDude 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MscleLovr Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Is not dating if money is involved Maybe I’m misinterpreting what you wrote but I disagree @marylander1940. I think it’s assumed that any older single man, heterosexual or gay, will pay for dinner etc. on a first date. Maybe people will split the check on later occasions, but it’s still a date. When I was single, I had many first dates with guys in their 20s (actors/models), 30s (professional jobs) and 40s (business owners/professional jobs). I always paid the check but I noticed the occasions were rare when a guy offered to pay half. Not all of my first dates ended in the bedroom. FWIW I had 2 strange experiences while dating. 1. The first was a tall model, very easy on the eye, whom I took to dinner 3x. Our third date was convivial and he told me of a recent date he’d had (with a second-tier movie star who was “lousy in bed”). So after dinner I suggested he come home with me to finish the evening well - he declined, made an excuse and I never contacted him again. 2. The second was a very attractive trainee-doctor with whom I had a great first date. As I reached for the check, he grabbed it and offered to pay. I insisted that I pay as I’d invited him, but said he could pay next time. He called the next day to fix the second date; we had another good time together and he paid for dinner. And now it’s more than 5 years that we’ve been together. rvwnsd, liubit, + WilliamM and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeepItReal Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 (edited) I live in Charlotte which is a smaller city, I guess. KeepitReal. Triple those numbers as a starter. 150 for meals...that's once. Help with rent? One bedrooms here run 1,200-1,500; two bedrooms low 2's. So to get him out of a roommate situation, you have around a thousand. Unfortunately there is no Walmart version of a SB relationship. It really depends on how you define the arrangement. In my example, one of the assumptions was that when I "assist" with rent, that doesn't mean I am paying his rent, I am just chipping in when he is a little short. If you straight up pay his rent, then sure, that is a different assumption and will change the math dramatically. Once you definite your assumptions (aka what you will be willing to pay for) you will be able to gross it up to an annual salary to match. I start with "I am not willing to spend more than $1,000 a month to support a fella". Edited October 27, 2019 by KeepItReal MikeBiDude, marylander1940 and + FrankR 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeBiDude Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 It really depends on how you define the arrangement. In my example, one of the assumptions was that when I "assist" with rent, that doesn't mean I am paying his rent, I am just chipping in when he is a little short. *exactly* ???? marylander1940 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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peter803 Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 If a daddy is having someone exclusively to him, and his support is the guy's sole income, 5K budget a month is probably the minimum, and 300k/500K income depending on the location is the threshold to me. If a daddy is seeing someone casually and supplementing the guy's income, then 1 to 2K budget works well, and thusmuch lower income. What's the percentage of daddy making 300K/500K and above? + goosh69 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ 5280Dane Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 If I’m supporting someone as their sole income, they better be putting out 40 hours a week. Minimum. God, I wish I were rich. Studsearcher, + g56whiz, kko123 and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ oldNbusted Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 If I’m supporting someone as their sole income, they better be putting out 40 hours a week. Minimum. And no moonlighting? + 5280Dane and MikeBiDude 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ DrownedBoy Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 If I’m supporting someone as their sole income, they better be putting out 40 hours a week. Minimum. God, I wish I were rich. Much more realistic. And statistically, if you're pulling 300K/year, you're in the "1%." Translation - a lot of these boys on SA are going to be disappointed. How many of the 1% are gay men? If my salary keeps going up, I'd love to get a houseboy/servant, but I've never been interested in "dating" like that. Probably a hangover from my own youth. + 5280Dane 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeBiDude Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 One of my young prospects on Seeking used this in his profile..I’m not ashamed to say, I had to google it! Glucose Guardian marylander1940 and MscleLovr 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ Keith30309 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 I just did a quick scan of the guys new to SA in my city and... damn. Some of these guys are really hot. And it looks like they may be getting a little more liberal with the photo content. There’s a few in poses that are overtly sexual I just may have to try to rejoin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 One of my young prospects on Seeking used this in his profile..I’m not ashamed to say, I had to google it! Glucose Guardian It just made it to the urban dictionary. This millennials can't stop inventing expressions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kko123 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 It just made it to the urban dictionary. This millennials can't stop inventing expressions. They can invent as many as they want to describe all the ways I’m investing in their peach emojis. MikeBiDude 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 They can invent as many as they want to describe all the ways I’m investing in their peach emojis. for the record, I wasn't complaining, I was stating a fact... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MscleLovr Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 It just made it to the urban dictionary. This millennials can't stop inventing expressions. Well, it’s a man’s duty to make sure he feeds his guy regularly. A millennial needs a good daily intake of healthy protein. marylander1940 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chance Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 It’s a great way to meet younger guys period and the vibe is much different - and for me much better than an escort site MikeBiDude 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeBiDude Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 It’s a great way to meet younger guys period and the vibe is much different - and for me much better than an escort site ‘Nuff said! Succinct and spot on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 (edited) It’s a great way to meet younger guys period and the vibe is much different - and for me much better than an escort site I think the main reason some clients are attracted to sites like this is the fact that is usually cheaper and they have plenty of time to go online and search. If they're with a guy in exchange for money does it really matter how you meet them? I know escorts who have ads on SA just to search for a sugar daddy who might take them out of the business. I wonder if a certain Belgian met his Prince this way? On the other side SA is bringing more young men to the business, and is a useful way to "test the waters", they can also screen potential clients and avoid those who they dislike the most. Edited November 7, 2019 by marylander1940 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Just got the notice that Apple is deleting the Seeking app ... and all others in theme with economic dating connotations and correlations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubic_assistance Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Just got the notice that Apple is deleting the Seeking app ... and all others in theme with economic dating connotations and correlations. Thought Police are at it again ! marylander1940 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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