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19 hours ago, KensingtonHomo said:

This is my issue. We're doing to each other and ourselves what men and advertising have done to women. Straight men get to age and gain weight and generally let themselves go, but women and gay guys have to be eternally youthful and beautiful. It's not realistic or healthy. My husband is four years younger than you, and he's as handsome to me now as he ever was. And when we go out, I have to beat the twinks off him because they all love a silver fox. 

The generation before ours didn't get to age because AIDS killed so many of them. I want more of us. As your triathlete friend shows, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. 

Thank you for saying this in such a thoughtful, kind, and measured way.  It's going to sit with me for a long while.

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I would take issue with the statement that attempting to maintain one’s weight and maintaining one’s looks as much as possible (without resorting to artificial interventions) is not realistic or healthy. 

I have done just that for the last 40 years  and for me it has worked. It is not easy and takes discipline and perseverance. And it has produced healthy results. 

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On 8/19/2026 at 9:10 AM, mtaabq said:

Wow. This is a great topic. Like another commenter I will say that I am old, ugly and fat so I’m usually tremendously happy that the guy will actually show up, LOL! For me it’s “consideration” – consideration for my wants and needs and my special requests. Treating me like a human being and a sexual being. I once had a provider call me on the way to my place and ask if I wanted anything from Starbucks – he was getting himself a coffee and offered to get me one, also. When they don’t leap off the bed once we’re both finished saying, “Well, I gotta go!” (I once had a man ask me if he could use the shower while he was still in me.) A soft, sweet kiss at the door. Hell, a soft, sweet kiss out in public! A text afterward thanking me. When they leave their underwear behind. When my sheets smell of their scent, their cologne and sex. A genuine concern that I am getting what I want. 

You sound beautiful. We should hook up. 😋

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4 hours ago, Luv2play said:

I would take issue with the statement that attempting to maintain one’s weight and maintaining one’s looks as much as possible (without resorting to artificial interventions) is not realistic or healthy. 

I have done just that for the last 40 years  and for me it has worked. It is not easy and takes discipline and perseverance. And it has produced healthy results. 

For some guys thinking about their weight and their health can be, ironically, really unhealthy and dangerous. The current manosphere chatter can harm some folks.

Posted (edited)
5 hours ago, SirBillybob said:

Feeling special is probably one of those functions best kept in-house rather than outsourced to a younger payroll. 

Correct, but still, the "younger payroll" helps.

By the way, I liked the "younger payroll" 😅.

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On 8/23/2026 at 6:25 PM, Luv2play said:

I would take issue with the statement that attempting to maintain one’s weight and maintaining one’s looks as much as possible (without resorting to artificial interventions) is not realistic or healthy. 

I have done just that for the last 40 years  and for me it has worked. It is not easy and takes discipline and perseverance. And it has produced healthy results. 

I’m not exactly sure how your post relates to the topic, how trying to stay healthy isn’t healthy, or who you suggested disputes that wisdom, but let’s not waste your testimonial.

I’ve found that staying fit and aging gracefully hasn’t particularly required much more than common sense, but I may eventually benefit from skin care regimen tips and that is where I may need to dig deep for discipline and perseverance. That effort to churn out shea butter may topple the pain-gain balance. 

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On 8/24/2026 at 1:25 AM, Luv2play said:

I would take issue with the statement that attempting to maintain one’s weight and maintaining one’s looks as much as possible (without resorting to artificial interventions) is not realistic or healthy. 

And may I ask what is wrong with artificial interventions? Isn't science and technology an artificial intervention? What is wrong with a bit of Botox? 😅

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3 minutes ago, ACluelessGent said:

And may I ask what is wrong with artificial interventions? Isn't science and technology an artificial intervention? What is wrong with a bit of Botox? 😅

Having healthy habits mostly avoids the necessity of resorting to Botox or other cosmetic strategies. Your face and body show the toll of bad habits like over eating or drinking to excess. Sleep is important too as is regular exercise. Depriving your body of those will also register on your looks. And hard drugs ugh. 
 

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12 minutes ago, Luv2play said:

Having healthy habits mostly avoids the necessity of resorting to Botox or other cosmetic strategies. Your face and body show the toll of bad habits like over eating or drinking to excess. Sleep is important too as is regular exercise. Depriving your body of those will also register on your looks. And hard drugs ugh. 
 

Sleep and proper nutrition are fundamentals. But no amount of sleep and nutrients will have an impact on the wrinkles on your forehead. Start Botox early and you never see a line.  😅

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5 hours ago, ACluelessGent said:

Sleep and proper nutrition are fundamentals. But no amount of sleep and nutrients will have an impact on the wrinkles on your forehead. Start Botox early and you never see a line.  😅

Are wrinkles on the forehead what are called frown lines? If so then the simple solution is to be happy and not frown at the world. 

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For me, I have a terrible sense of my body. I’m older and chunkier, so I am almost apologetic to providers that “I’m” what they have to work with.

What makes me feel special is deep eye contact, passionate kissing, being verbal, taking their time to let me acclimate to them,  and getting a sense of what I like from how my body reacts. Trying something new - something I don’t get to do at home, is also a big green light for me.

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There is a similar theme to most of these answers. And it is exactly what gets me.

That is, for the provider to enjoy it, or at least act like he enjoys it.

I'll always remember a session I had with an extremely hot guy. I was so excited. But all he did was complain about how shitty is life was because he had to do escort work. I kept waiting for him to shut up; sadly he never did. It was one of my most memorable experiences.

 

For all the wrong reasons.....

Posted (edited)
On 8/24/2026 at 9:57 PM, ACluelessGent said:

And may I ask what is wrong with artificial interventions? Isn't science and technology an artificial intervention? What is wrong with a bit of Botox? 😅

 

On 8/24/2026 at 10:16 PM, ACluelessGent said:

But no amount of sleep and nutrients will have an impact on the wrinkles on your forehead. Start Botox early and you never see a line.  😅

One can accomplish the same thing by simply having a good skin care routine started early and maintained consistently over time. Most facial signs of aging like the visual prominence of wrinkles, lines, and rough skin texture are caused and greatly exacerbated by sun exposure/damage over time. Simply having a good sunscreen+moisturizer you apply to the face consistently over the long term achieves a highly similar result while actually having other non-superficial health benefits for your skin too (which botox has none, it's only a superficial treatment).

A skin care routine of say a combination sunscreen/moisturizer, with cleanser, a retinol of some sort (retinol simply increases the natural process of turn over of dead skin cells replaced by new ones) provides visual improvements to skin, helps protect you from sun burn/sun damage, increases skin cancer prevention, increases skin barrier strength/hydration (which the lack of both is a big part of what makes wrinkles and fine lines much more prominent and skin texture worse), can treat for various skin conditions like hyper pigmentation or adult acne, etc.

Botox is the "i can't be bothered to maintain a daily personal appearance upkeep routine", "break glass in case of emergency/insecurity", "i have a ton of money" version of that 🤣. That + knowing how so many end up with bad "plastic surgery face" in their later years when people inevitably do too much or keep doing it when it no longer achieves the intended look i think is why it's generally not really viewed that favorably.

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3 hours ago, DMonDude said:

 

One can accomplish the same thing by simply having a good skin care routine started early and maintained consistently over time. Most facial signs of aging like the visual prominence of wrinkles, lines, and rough skin texture are caused and greatly exacerbated by sun exposure/damage over time. Simply having a good sunscreen+moisturizer you apply to the face consistently over the long term achieves a highly similar result while actually having other non-superficial health benefits for your skin too (which botox has none, it's only a superficial treatment).

A skin care routine of say a combination sunscreen/moisturizer, with cleanser, a retinol of some sort (retinol simply increases the natural process of turn over of dead skin cells replaced by new ones) provides visual improvements to skin, helps protect you from sun burn/sun damage, increases skin cancer prevention, increases skin barrier strength/hydration (which the lack of both is a big part of what makes wrinkles and fine lines much more prominent and skin texture worse), can treat for various skin conditions like hyper pigmentation or adult acne, etc.

Botox is the "i can't be bothered to maintain a daily personal appearance upkeep routine", "break glass in case of emergency/insecurity", "i have a ton of money" version of that 🤣. That + knowing how so many end up with bad "plastic surgery face" in their later years when people inevitably do too much or keep doing it when it no longer achieves the intended look i think is why it's generally not really viewed that favorably.

Again, nutrition and skincare are fundamentals. The basis of the pyramid. Add the layer of Botox + skinboosters, the layer of non invasive procedures and at the top the invasive surgery. 

Obviously, how far up you go is a personal choice. But to say that you can achieve the Botox result with sleep, broccoli and retinol is wrong and misleading.

I remember the first time I had Profhilo. I wanted to throw out all my creams and lotions. I didn't 😅

Now I follow a simple skincare routine (sunscreen, vit c, tretinoin) and do regularly Botox and Profhilo. I am also often tempted by the new super skinbooster my dermatologist is enthusiastic about 😅.

 

 

Posted (edited)
42 minutes ago, ACluelessGent said:

Again, nutrition and skincare are fundamentals. The basis of the pyramid. Add the layer of Botox + skinboosters, the layer of non invasive procedures and at the top the invasive surgery. 

Obviously, how far up you go is a personal choice. But to say that you can achieve the Botox result with sleep, broccoli and retinol is wrong and misleading.

I remember the first time I had Profhilo. I wanted to throw out all my creams and lotions. I didn't 😅

Now I follow a simple skincare routine (sunscreen, vit c, tretinoin) and do regularly Botox and Profhilo. I am also often tempted by the new super skinbooster my dermatologist is enthusiastic about 😅.

 

 

I never said skincare will freeze/atrophy your muscles in place like botox does. But it will make your skin appear smoother/more youthful to the eye of another person than it would without, which is a similar effect botox achieves by physically stopping the scrunching of your skin by making it so the underlying muscles aren't moving as much.

Botox only does that by making it so the skin isn't wrinkling/folding constantly from movement, skincare does it by actually resurfacing on the surface and improving skin health in the sub layers of the skin. It's doing more than what botox does. Which is why i think if you're doing skincare properly and consistently you don't actually need the botox.

The part skincare doesn't do that botox does, is potentially make your face so stiff you can't emote properly 😆

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9 minutes ago, DMonDude said:

I never said skincare will freeze/atrophy your muscles in place like botox does. But it will make your skin appear smoother/more youthful 

Yes, skincare does it. But if you want to take it to the next level add a skinbooster. It will moisturize your skin from within, in a way no cream can. It's last century compared to cutting edge tech. You've got to try it to see the difference. Same for botox. And I urge you to start it before it's too late, before you get deep forehead wrinkles.

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