Pre deposit deal…Would you?

[ATLVersMan]

I won’t be listing any provider info just due to privacy. Had anybody ever had a provider ask to discount their services in return asking for a pre paid “deposit of donation” to help them cover something they needed? I’m very curious as how can you know you can’t get burned & or blocked ? And if you do get blocked not like you can warn anybody. For an example rates were like 

275 for 1 hour, 500  for 2 hour, 750 for 3 hours and 100 more for each additional. Recently I was asked if I could send 300 and I can get 3.5 hours for the rate of 2 hours. I’m iffy on doing such. The provider is in NYC and I will be there for work tomorrow- Saturday. ( I won’t give names of provider at all again) but they offered to send any info and say they have many good reviews and a bad review like this could ruin them so to trust. 

what would yall do ? 

** Edit bellow** 
( Edit to clarify ! I shifted the numbers around a bit so it can’t be figured out who incase; but essentially I’d get like 4 hours for the price of 2) 

money was asked for help to cover a bill he needed paid  asap  

 

Edited Thursday at 07:46 PM by ATLVersMan
Added information

[Cretus]

Well, I presume you have assessed those reviews. I also assume you have checked whether the provider is mentioned specifically in the Deli Forum on the company of men website.

If they don’t have a 4.7 star rating or above on RM, and or if there is something suggestive of dishonesty about them on this website, I would say no to the offer. I wonder how many RM reviews the individual in question has.
 

To this provider’s point, a bad review could taint a perfect record if he has one, and that is incentive for him to not cheat you out of a deposit you paid.

It is rare that a provider cheapens his services overall in exchange for receiving a prepaid deposit.

(Nerdy tangent: This may just be a sign of a very economic/ choice theory minded escort- which is good; he understands that you perceive some risk of sending deposit money to him, so he lowers the overall cost of services to reduce your sense of total expected loss.)

It may also be a provider who wants to run away with your deposit money.

I personally only do deposits when the reviewer has many reviews on RM, has a professional sounding and not copy-pasted self description, and is positively reviewed on here as well.

Let us know how it goes!

Edited Thursday at 02:27 PM by Cretus

[Cretus]

Symphony of people saying “NEVeR do Deposits!” Coming in 3, 2, 1 ……..

[NYXboy]

*cue the cries of NO DEPOSITS EVER from the board members*

I personally have no issue with sending SMALL deposits to well reviewed providers (both here and on RM), however this situation would give me pause.  

Just to clarify, as your post was a little hard to decipher.

if the provider said "if you send a deposit to lock in a booking, the rate is X amount cheaper"  - if so, I don't see a big issue providing the deposit if the amount is minimal. 

If the provider reached out and said 'hey can you send me some money to pre-pay a booking and I will give you a discounted rate' - that IS an issue and I would only do something like this if the provider was one I had a long standing relationship with, and even then, probably not. 

Edited Thursday at 02:20 PM by NYXboy

[+ SirBillybob]

Is not the cumulative math a bit off? An additional $225 for the 2nd hour yet an additional $250 for the 3rd hour? Shouldn’t the 3rd hour be somewhere between $225 and the $100 rate for 4th hour+ ? 

Logically, 3 hours should be no more than $725 and 3.5 hours $775. Putting out $800 in total is no discount.

Edited Thursday at 02:30 PM by SirBillybob

[Cretus]

6 minutes ago, SirBillybob said:

Is not the cumulative math a bit off? An additional $225 for the 2nd hour yet an additional $250 for the 3rd hour?

It might be on purpose. Maybe he views 3 hours as a significant input that demands more than $225 for the 3rd hour, and from then on he begins lowering the future hourly rates again because he’s reached that huge 3 hour milestone that is so significant to him.

Edited Thursday at 02:26 PM by Cretus

[+ SirBillybob]

12 minutes ago, Cretus said:

It might be on purpose. Maybe he views 3 hours as a significant input that demands more than $225 for the 3rd hour, and from then on he begins lowering the future hourly rates again because he’s reached that huge 3 hour milestone that is so significant to him.

That must be it. Choice theory meet performative erectile challenges for the 3rd inning overcome by the 4th.

Or … faulty abacus.

Edited Thursday at 02:38 PM by SirBillybob

[56harrisond]

Deposit threads

 

[+ PhileasFogg]

It's a crap shoot - but I've been known to do it for guys that I've worked with before.    But, it's getting more rare because I'm not the Fogg National Bank.

[Nightowl]

I would only do it for a guy in whom I’d developed trust during multiple (5-6) previous visits.   I wouldn’t do it for a new provider or someone I’d only seen sporadically.  

[+ FrankR]

I would definitely not do it for someone I have not met at least a hand full of times.  I am likely not to do it for someone I know and trust - it is a great way to ruin a good thing. You do you, but be aware that the odds are not in your favor.

[Cretus]

9 minutes ago, FrankR said:

I would definitely not do it for someone I have not met at least a hand full of times.  I am likely not to do it for someone I know and trust - it is a great way to ruin a good thing. You do you, but be aware that the odds are not in your favor.

This is normatively ok in my own opinion, but I would ask you: suppose you booked an overnight with a provider, and you suddenly had to cancel.
 

That provider might have said no to other people for you for that night(lost $$$), was tantalized with the prospect of earning over $1000 and disillusioned, and if they are bottoming, may have altered their diet and put significant time into preparing their nether regions for the overnight.

It’s ok to not put a deposit out front I would say, but do you think it would be ok to cancel and not pay the provider anything?

Edited Thursday at 03:21 PM by Cretus

[+ FrankR]

6 minutes ago, Cretus said:

This is normatively ok in my own opinion, but I would ask you: suppose you booked an overnight with a provider, and you suddenly had to cancel.
 

That provider might have said no to other people for you for that night(lost $$$), was tantalized with the prospect of earning over $1000 and disillusioned, and if they are bottoming, may have altered their diet and put significant time into preparing their nether regions for the overnight.

It’s ok to not put a deposit out front I would say, but do you think it would be ok to cancel and not pay the provider anything?

The scenario you added and described above is not what the question was about.  As a rule I don’t pay deposits.  I have sent gifts to providers in need (and almost always regretted it). I’m not w bank so I dont loan money either. 
 

In a case where I had an appointment confirmed and I cancel same day, I always pay the provider the full fee…unless the provider was the cause. For example if we agreed to meet at 8pm but the provider wants to change time to 10pm and I cannot accomodate; then it is not my fault I ask to cancel so I dont pay. Every scenario is different and I try to be fair within the rules I have set for myself to guide my conduct. 

[Cretus]

38 minutes ago, FrankR said:

The scenario you added and described above is not what the question was about.  As a rule I don’t pay deposits.  I have sent gifts to providers in need (and almost always regretted it). I’m not w bank so I dont loan money either. 
 

In a case where I had an appointment confirmed and I cancel same day, I always pay the provider the full fee…unless the provider was the cause. For example if we agreed to meet at 8pm but the provider wants to change time to 10pm and I cannot accomodate; then it is not my fault I ask to cancel so I dont pay. Every scenario is different and I try to be fair within the rules I have set for myself to guide my conduct. 

I’m aware that the situation I added and described was not what the question was about.

 

I inquired about your stance on this hypothetical situation in order to get a sense about whether you would engage in some form of reimbursement in the case of a cancellation on your part.

[+ FrankR]

32 minutes ago, Cretus said:

I’m aware that the situation I added and described was not what the question was about.

 

I inquired about your stance on this hypothetical situation in order to get a sense about whether you would engage in some form of reimbursement in the case of a cancellation on your part.

I did try to answer your question…

[+ nycman]

3 hours ago, ATLVersMan said:

what would yall do ? 

Think with my big head…..and pass. 

[Cretus]

53 minutes ago, FrankR said:

I did try to answer your question…

Yes, you did answer my question.

[Gilfson]

As a provider I offer a discounted rate with prepayment. I only do this as the number of flakes or people just trying to get off by texting an escort is crazy on rm. however i make sure people know its not a requirement. but i take 100 off the first hour with prepayment.

[jeezifonly]

I live in a big market like NYC. More spread out, but lots of providers from which to choose, especially planning beyond "available now"

If a big city client sees lots of ads, and wants to pursue a provider who puts up a few road blocks to the actual meeting, I assume that there must be something extraordinary about the appeal that can override normal risk/reward assessment.

If losing a few hundred bucks is no biggie, go for it. The provider may be absolutely honest and deliver on the sessions as promised. But if a client pays ahead, and the chemistry is missing from the beginning, that's show biz. Ya bought the ticket, if the curtain goes up, the show ya get is the show ya get. It's better to gamble money than safety.

 

 

[ATLVersMan]

5 hours ago, Cretus said:

Well, I presume you have assessed those reviews. I also assume you have checked whether the provider is mentioned specifically in the Deli Forum on the company of men website.

If they don’t have a 4.7 star rating or above on RM, and or if there is something suggestive of dishonesty about them on this website, I would say no to the offer. I wonder how many RM reviews the individual in question has.
 

To this provider’s point, a bad review could taint a perfect record if he has one, and that is incentive for him to not cheat you out of a deposit you paid.

It is rare that a provider cheapens his services overall in exchange for receiving a prepaid deposit.

(Nerdy tangent: This may just be a sign of a very economic/ choice theory minded escort- which is good; he understands that you perceive some risk of sending deposit money to him, so he lowers the overall cost of services to reduce your sense of total expected loss.)

It may also be a provider who wants to run away with your deposit money.

I personally only do deposits when the reviewer has many reviews on RM, has a professional sounding and not copy-pasted self description, and is positively reviewed on here as well.

Let us know how it goes!

I didn’t even think to give my self a standard rating to go by that is smart if I’m honest. I also didn’t even think to search for him here 😵‍💫😵‍💫. I will do that ! 

[ATLVersMan]

5 hours ago, NYXboy said:

*cue the cries of NO DEPOSITS EVER from the board members*

I personally have no issue with sending SMALL deposits to well reviewed providers (both here and on RM), however this situation would give me pause.  

Just to clarify, as your post was a little hard to decipher.

if the provider said "if you send a deposit to lock in a booking, the rate is X amount cheaper"  - if so, I don't see a big issue providing the deposit if the amount is minimal. 

If the provider reached out and said 'hey can you send me some money to pre-pay a booking and I will give you a discounted rate' - that IS an issue and I would only do something like this if the provider was one I had a long standing relationship with, and even then, probably not. 

Yes, it was due to him having a bill to pay that he needed taken care of. So like he needed the $$ to pay a bill vs a normal deposit needed. 

[ATLVersMan]

5 hours ago, SirBillybob said:

Is not the cumulative math a bit off? An additional $225 for the 2nd hour yet an additional $250 for the 3rd hour? Shouldn’t the 3rd hour be somewhere between $225 and the $100 rate for 4th hour+ ? 

Logically, 3 hours should be no more than $725 and 3.5 hours $775. Putting out $800 in total is no discount.

I’d get 3.5-4 hours ( I’ve never done more than like 2 hours with somebody before ) for the rate of 2 hours. $500 total 

[ATLVersMan]

5 hours ago, SirBillybob said:

Is not the cumulative math a bit off? An additional $225 for the 2nd hour yet an additional $250 for the 3rd hour? Shouldn’t the 3rd hour be somewhere between $225 and the $100 rate for 4th hour+ ? 

Logically, 3 hours should be no more than $725 and 3.5 hours $775. Putting out $800 in total is no discount.

I also shifted the numbers a wee bit so it couldn’t get tied back to anybody. 

[Cretus]

3 minutes ago, ATLVersMan said:

Yes, it was due to him having a bill to pay that he needed taken care of. So like he needed the $$ to pay a bill vs a normal deposit needed. 

Actually,  I’ve had a regular provider who I trust ask once for an advance because there indeed was a bill he needed to pay and was late on. 
 

I paid him for half the overnight and the remainder after the actual overnight 4 days later.

Its just something I would hesitate to do for someone you’ve never met and who’s reputation you don’t know.

Edited Thursday at 07:46 PM by Cretus

[ATLVersMan]

5 hours ago, 56harrisond said:

Deposit threads

 

Ty!