+ ApexNomad Posted May 12 Posted May 12 4 minutes ago, Vegas_Millennial said: I questioned that statement at first, too. But I've been with a few really slutty bottoms who, as each was on top of me making out, slipped me into his hole before I knew what had happened. Look, a top knows when he’s not wearing a condom. Period. Quincy chose to fuck raw. So did you. (And that’s fine btw!!) BUT, let’s not rewrite the scene like it’s some non-consensual ambush. He had ample time to stop, put one on, and take accountability. That wasn’t an accident. That was a choice. pubic_assistance, LookingAround and Luv2play 1 2
+ FrankR Posted May 12 Posted May 12 46 minutes ago, ApexNomad said: Look, a top knows when he’s not wearing a condom. Period. Quincy chose to fuck raw. So did you. (And that’s fine btw!!) BUT, let’s not rewrite the scene like it’s some non-consensual ambush. He had ample time to stop, put one on, and take accountability. That wasn’t an accident. That was a choice. Not true. It has happened to me as well. You lack imagination sir. Sometimes the bttm will go faster than expected, from rubbing to inserting. It happens. Must be nice, living in a black and white world, where nothing unexpected ever happens! The rest of us mere mortals have to deal with shades of grey. 😏 pubic_assistance, + Vegas_Millennial and Constantine 1 1 1
+ ApexNomad Posted May 12 Posted May 12 4 minutes ago, FrankR said: Not true. It has happened to me as well. You lack imagination sir. Sometimes the bttm will go faster than expected, from rubbing to inserting. It happens. Must be nice, living in a black and white world, where nothing unexpected ever happens! The rest of us mere mortals have to deal with shades of grey. 😏 Spare us the poetic shades of grey. This isn’t nuance, it’s nonsense. Imagination has nothing to do with it—accountability does. A top knows when he’s not wearing a condom. Full stop. Acting like it’s some surprise twist is laughable. You didn’t trip and fall into him. You made a choice—own it. pubic_assistance 1
+ FrankR Posted May 12 Posted May 12 Just now, ApexNomad said: Spare us the poetic shades of grey. This isn’t nuance, it’s nonsense. Imagination has nothing to do with it—accountability does. A top knows when he’s not wearing a condom. Full stop. Acting like it’s some surprise twist is laughable. You didn’t trip and fall into him. You made a choice—own it. Three people here have told you that it happens, usually when foreplay goes faster than expected. I am sorry that our real life experience does not meet your expectations. 🤨 + Vegas_Millennial and pubic_assistance 1 1
+ ApexNomad Posted May 12 Posted May 12 2 minutes ago, FrankR said: Three people here have told you that it happens, usually when foreplay goes faster than expected. I am sorry that our real life experience does not meet your expectations. 🤨 I’m not saying it doesn’t happen. I’m not saying a bottom can’t take initiative and slip his ass onto an unwrapped dick during the heat of the moment. What I am saying is this: if you’re the top, and you don’t realize you’re fucking without a condom—and then you choose to keep going without one—that’s not a misunderstanding. That’s willful ignorance at best, and straight-up dishonesty at worst. pubic_assistance 1
+ BenjaminNicholas Posted May 12 Posted May 12 2 hours ago, ApexNomad said: So let me get this straight—you’re the top, you only use condoms, and yet the bottom somehow managed to “slip himself in” not once, but twice—and you just didn’t notice there wasn’t one on? For the entire time you were fucking the bottom? Is that what you’re saying? pubic_assistance, + ApexNomad and + FrankR 1 1 1
+ Vegas_Millennial Posted May 12 Posted May 12 2 hours ago, ApexNomad said: Look, a top knows when he’s not wearing a condom Oh, I knew I wasn't wearing a condom. What I didn't know is that I was going to "top". I was lying naked on my back making out, and in a split second he straddles me and in it goes. 2 hours ago, ApexNomad said: He had ample time to stop, put one on, and take accountability. That wasn’t an accident. That was a choice. Absolutely. I would never stop. I love to bareback, and was happy this young man rode me when I wasn't expecting to top that afternoon. It was spontaneous for me, and I enjoyed it! 🥳 It was 100% my choice. I would never claim "rape" or "non-consent" because a cute man sat on my dick while I was naked with a hard on, that would be a queer action indeed. I can see where others would say "Hold on, let me put on a condom", but that is not a phrase I use. Luv2play, + Pensant and pubic_assistance 2 1
marylander1940 Posted May 12 Posted May 12 In this day and age BB is default just like getting tested every 3 months! LookingAround, pubic_assistance and Luv2play 1 2
Constantine Posted May 12 Posted May 12 (edited) 2 hours ago, ApexNomad said: So let me get this straight—you’re the top, you only use condoms, and yet the bottom somehow managed to “slip himself in” not once, but twice—and you just didn’t notice there wasn’t one on? For the entire time you were fucking the bottom? Is that what you’re saying? These were two separate instances roughly five years apart. The first time the condom came off and he then slipped me in bare without my consent. I pulled out my dick right after. I was probably inside him for 5 seconds max and likely didn't need PEP but I thought better safe than sorry. The second time right when he was on top of me he said we didn't need condoms and slipped me in. He was so hot and I wanted to breed him so I didn't stop him. I went on PEP after that and it was the most stressful 28 days of my life. There were no symptoms from the actual medication, it was the anxiety because I started PEP at almost exactly 48 hours and I kept reading all these studies about PEP failure after 48 hours. Edited May 12 by Quincy_7 Luv2play 1
+ sam.fitzpatrick Posted May 12 Posted May 12 7 hours ago, ShortCutie7 said: Generally speaking, it is a provider’s job to play with anyone willing to pay. Even with the “generally speaking” disclaimer, this comment didn’t sit well with me. I expect providers to have some limitations to the services they provide and even be comfortable refusing a repeat appointment for any reason they choose. They also need to be comfortable conducting business under terms they choose. If that means condom usage is a must for them, then so it is. + BenjaminNicholas, thomas, MikeBiDude and 1 other 4
ShortCutie7 Posted May 12 Posted May 12 22 minutes ago, sam.fitzpatrick said: Even with the “generally speaking” disclaimer, this comment didn’t sit well with me. I expect providers to have some limitations to the services they provide and even be comfortable refusing a repeat appointment for any reason they choose. They also need to be comfortable conducting business under terms they choose. If that means condom usage is a must for them, then so it is. Absolutely, any business owner has the right to run their business as they see fit and set proper boundaries, but that also means that they would have to be willing to turn down potential paying customers, which is not a realistic expectation from the rest of us as clients. My point is that the financial component changes the dynamic from it being a regular Grindr etc hookup.
+ BenjaminNicholas Posted May 12 Posted May 12 20 minutes ago, ShortCutie7 said: Absolutely, any business owner has the right to run their business as they see fit and set proper boundaries, but that also means that they would have to be willing to turn down potential paying customers, which is not a realistic expectation from the rest of us as clients. My point is that the financial component changes the dynamic from it being a regular Grindr etc hookup. A smart escort turns down guys that don't adhere to his criteria. Thst can mean many things, but to have business standards is important. Fucking with anyone who offers a buck is a quick way to burn yourself out. thomas, ShortCutie7, + Jamie21 and 2 others 2 1 2
+ BenjaminNicholas Posted May 12 Posted May 12 This whole thread should be yet another reason why if you're having anal sex, you should be getting bloodwork and on PrEP. thomas, Km411, + KensingtonHomo and 2 others 2 3
ShortCutie7 Posted May 12 Posted May 12 22 minutes ago, BenjaminNicholas said: A smart escort turns down guys that don't adhere to his criteria. Thst can mean many things, but to have business standards is important. Fucking with anyone who offers a buck is a quick way to burn yourself out. That’s great to hear coming from an escort!! + KensingtonHomo and + BenjaminNicholas 1 1
+ ApexNomad Posted May 12 Posted May 12 2 hours ago, Quincy_7 said: These were two separate instances roughly five years apart. The first time the condom came off and he then slipped me in bare without my consent. I pulled out my dick right after. I was probably inside him for 5 seconds max and likely didn't need PEP but I thought better safe than sorry. The second time right when he was on top of me he said we didn't need condoms and slipped me in. He was so hot and I wanted to breed him so I didn't stop him. I went on PEP after that and it was the most stressful 28 days of my life. There were no symptoms from the actual medication, it was the anxiety because I started PEP at almost exactly 48 hours and I kept reading all these studies about PEP failure after 48 hours. Thanks for clearing that up—wouldn’t want to think a bottom left you so helpless that you slipped, tripped, and fell into raw sex. Twice. thomas, Luv2play and + KensingtonHomo 3
+ KensingtonHomo Posted May 12 Posted May 12 8 hours ago, pubic_assistance said: I dont have any "shame". I am extremely sex-positive. But then I am neither "queer", nor was I raised Catholic. So please dont lump me in with your own issues. Methinks the lady doth protest too much. Honestly, this was not meant in any way as an attack on you or Short. I was calling out a general situation that many of our generation experience.
CuriousByNature Posted May 13 Posted May 13 7 hours ago, Vegas_Millennial said: I questioned that statement at first, too. But I've been with a few really slutty bottoms who, as each was on top of me making out, slipped me into his hole before I knew what had happened. + Alabastrine, + Vegas_Millennial, GHart and 2 others 1 4
+ Alabastrine Posted May 13 Posted May 13 I love uncut guys, trouble is that they're best enjoyed bareback- something wouldn't be willing to do unless there's a long established relationship of trust, or a million blood tests spaced very close together. Condomland for me. marylander1940 1
Colton Posted May 13 Posted May 13 23 hours ago, Quincy_7 said: Wait, Nick Floyd escorts? Wow. Can you share his profile? He said that in an interview. his ads are here. Just a moment... MEMBERS.SEEKING.COM NickFloyd - Pornstar Performer, Rentboy, Gay Massage in West Hollywood, CA | RentMen RENTMEN.EU Pornstar Performer & Rentboy in West Hollywood, CA - NickFloyd:
Constantine Posted May 13 Posted May 13 3 hours ago, Colton said: He said that in an interview. his ads are here. Just a moment... MEMBERS.SEEKING.COM NickFloyd - Pornstar Performer, Rentboy, Gay Massage in West Hollywood, CA | RentMen RENTMEN.EU Pornstar Performer & Rentboy in West Hollywood, CA - NickFloyd: He's so handsome. I'm surprised some tech billionaire hasn't snapped him up already.
Colton Posted May 13 Posted May 13 1 hour ago, Quincy_7 said: He's so handsome. I'm surprised some tech billionaire hasn't snapped him up already. He is very pretty. I'm sure he isn't hurting for money making opportunities. Was it Justin Matthews who talked about how much he makes from weekend trips where he and a bunch of others entertain some rich guys? Can't find it now.
+ Vegas_Millennial Posted May 13 Posted May 13 5 hours ago, Colton said: He said that in an interview. his ads are here. Just a moment... MEMBERS.SEEKING.COM NickFloyd - Pornstar Performer, Rentboy, Gay Massage in West Hollywood, CA | RentMen RENTMEN.EU Pornstar Performer & Rentboy in West Hollywood, CA - NickFloyd: 10 minutes ago, Colton said: He is very pretty. I'm sure he isn't hurting for money making opportunities. Was it Justin Matthews who talked about how much he makes from weekend trips where he and a bunch of others entertain some rich guys? Can't find it now. 2 hours ago, Quincy_7 said: He's so handsome. I'm surprised some tech billionaire hasn't snapped him up already. This guy's profile doesn't mention bareback. Is he great at bareback, and that's why y'all posted here?
Luv2play Posted May 14 Posted May 14 On 5/12/2025 at 4:06 PM, Quincy_7 said: These were two separate instances roughly five years apart. The first time the condom came off and he then slipped me in bare without my consent. I pulled out my dick right after. I was probably inside him for 5 seconds max and likely didn't need PEP but I thought better safe than sorry. The second time right when he was on top of me he said we didn't need condoms and slipped me in. He was so hot and I wanted to breed him so I didn't stop him. I went on PEP after that and it was the most stressful 28 days of my life. There were no symptoms from the actual medication, it was the anxiety because I started PEP at almost exactly 48 hours and I kept reading all these studies about PEP failure after 48 hours. I don’t understand your situation and how you handled it. Pep is taking doxycycline 200 mg within 24 hours of sexual activity. That’s it. It’s not PreP. The CDC recommends what I just wrote. It’s not complicated.
Luv2play Posted May 14 Posted May 14 On 5/12/2025 at 5:11 PM, ShortCutie7 said: Absolutely, any business owner has the right to run their business as they see fit and set proper boundaries, but that also means that they would have to be willing to turn down potential paying customers, which is not a realistic expectation from the rest of us as clients. My point is that the financial component changes the dynamic from it being a regular Grindr etc hookup. You lost me with the last part of your statement. If the provider turns down a client because he doesn’t want to do bareback the client should just move on and look for one who does.
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