Danny-Darko Posted March 16 Posted March 16 (edited) Some might find this interview with a G4P porn star and provider interesting. Edited March 16 by Danny-Darko Mo Mason and marylander1940 1 1
Mo Mason Posted March 16 Posted March 16 On 2/20/2025 at 7:02 PM, studchaser said: Expecting an emotional connection in a pay for hire relationship should not be expected I don't hire for BFE's because, you're right, in an hour or two that connection just doesn't happen. Maybe during a repeat session or a weekend or week-long tryst, but I'm poor so that doesn't happen for me. I'm also a very timid, insecure, anxious person who grew up hearing about how awesome straight alpha men are and how disgusting and loathsome gay men are. I heard from my dad on more than one occasion that "fa****s should be taken out into the street and shot," so I developed the idea that good-looking heterosexual men are IT, the be all end all... I hire "straight" providers because I like to submit to them. Because I feel inferior to them. I know they don't find me attractive; I suspect nobody does. I like to be in their presence and to be degraded and further emasculated by them. Seeking some sort of approval? Not really. I just know my place. + ApexNomad, FaustOust, marylander1940 and 3 others 1 4 1
+ ApexNomad Posted March 16 Posted March 16 6 minutes ago, Mo Mason said: I don't hire for BFE's because, you're right, in an hour or two that connection just doesn't happen. Maybe during a repeat session or a weekend or week-long tryst, but I'm poor so that doesn't happen for me. I'm also a very timid, insecure, anxious person who grew up hearing about how awesome straight alpha men are and how disgusting and loathsome gay men are. I heard from my dad on more than one occasion that "fa****s should be taken out into the street and shot," so I developed the idea that good-looking heterosexual men are IT, the be all end all... I hire "straight" providers because I like to submit to them. Because I feel inferior to them. I know they don't find me attractive; I suspect nobody does. I like to be in their presence and to be degraded and further emasculated by them. Seeking some sort of approval? Not really. I just know my place. Wow, that last paragraph really hit me. It makes me sad to hear you feel that way about yourself Mo because you don’t deserve to feel inferior to anyone. I get that upbringing and society can really ingrain those beliefs, but you are not less than. You don’t deserve to be degraded to feel something. I hope, if nothing else, you can start to see your own worth, even if it takes time. You matter. + DrownedBoy, + Lucky, Danny-Darko and 2 others 1 4
Mo Mason Posted March 17 Posted March 17 Thanks for the compassion and kind words. My situation is very well deserved. Danny-Darko 1
+ Vegas_Millennial Posted March 17 Posted March 17 (edited) 3 hours ago, Danny-Darko said: Some might find this interview with a G4P porn star and provider interesting. Serendipitously, this was on my YouTube feed last night... Which is odd because I watch YouTube with no account, and I was accessing it via my television Roku which also does not have an account, and is not connected to my web searches on my mobile telephone which I use for escorts and pornography. Either the internet gods have eyes and ears everywhere, or one of my straight housemates was searching how to be gay for pay. I'm hoping it's the latter! Edited March 17 by Vegas_Millennial Switched roommates to housemates... To be clear I don't share a bedroom with a straight man (yet 😉) studchaser, Mo Mason and Danny-Darko 3
Danny-Darko Posted March 17 Posted March 17 11 minutes ago, Mo Mason said: Thanks for the compassion and kind words. My situation is very well deserved. I'm so sorry you think that way. I think maybe some therapy might help? I also grew up hearing things like that in the 70's and 80's but I knew they were wrong and that I deserved better! Now if you have a fetish for abuse and humiliation and you get off on it then that's a different story. I've known people into that sort of play, but once the scene is over, they go back to their usual self-loving persona and on with life! Anyhow, I wish you the best! + Lucky, + ApexNomad and thomas 2 1
Mo Mason Posted March 17 Posted March 17 Thank you. Not the first time I've been told that I need to see a therapist. 🙃 Why do some of us seek straight providers? Hopefully I've helped answer studchaser's original question. Some of us are mentally unstable and damaged. That's why. There really would be no other reason. Danny-Darko, pubic_assistance and + ApexNomad 2 1
+ Vegas_Millennial Posted March 17 Posted March 17 For me... It's because I've slept with all the gay men in my city already 😊 pubic_assistance, + Drew Collins, + DrownedBoy and 6 others 9
Mo Mason Posted March 17 Posted March 17 3 minutes ago, Vegas_Millennial said: For me... It's because I've slept with all the gay men in my city already 😊 And that makes you the most normal person here. 😜 pubic_assistance, + Vegas_Millennial and + DrownedBoy 1 1 1
+ ApexNomad Posted March 17 Posted March 17 22 minutes ago, Mo Mason said: Thank you. Not the first time I've been told that I need to see a therapist. 🙃 Why do some of us seek straight providers? Hopefully I've helped answer studchaser's original question. Some of us are mentally unstable and damaged. That's why. There really would be no other reason. I’m sorry that you see yourself that way. Life shapes us in all kinds of ways, some harder than others. Being hurt doesn’t mean you’re broken beyond repair. You still deserve kindness—including from yourself. I wish you much happiness and peace. Danny-Darko 1
Danny-Darko Posted March 17 Posted March 17 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Mo Mason said: Thank you. Not the first time I've been told that I need to see a therapist. 🙃 Why do some of us seek straight providers? Hopefully I've helped answer studchaser's original question. Some of us are mentally unstable and damaged. That's why. There really would be no other reason. As long as you are "happy". But you have completely different reasons and motivations for hiring straight providers than some of us! I wish you the best! Edited March 17 by Danny-Darko + ApexNomad and marylander1940 2
Archangel Posted March 17 Posted March 17 I’m gay. I had enough issues with coming out publicly as gay. I’m not interested in men who aren’t gay…for real or for pay. BigAppleJay, + DrownedBoy and + ApexNomad 1 2
+ Vegas_Millennial Posted March 18 Posted March 18 On 3/16/2025 at 8:44 PM, Archangel said: I’m gay. I had enough issues with coming out publicly as gay. I’m not interested in men who aren’t gay…for real or for pay. I find the straight or bisexual providers are comfortable doing this for work even more so than the gay providers. The gay provider might stop this work when he gets married. But the straight provider's wife is cool with it, because it's not cheating on his woman with another woman pubic_assistance and Danny-Darko 1 1
Archangel Posted March 19 Posted March 19 (edited) 2 hours ago, Vegas_Millennial said: I find the straight or bisexual providers are comfortable doing this for work even more so than the gay providers. The gay provider might stop this work when he gets married. But the straight provider's wife is cool with it, because it's not cheating on his woman with another woman Different strokes for different folks. Edited March 19 by Archangel Grammar
+ Vegas_Millennial Posted March 26 Posted March 26 On 3/16/2025 at 8:44 PM, Archangel said: I’m gay. I had enough issues with coming out publicly as gay. I’m not interested in men who aren’t gay…for real or for pay. I find I can't tell if a man is gay or straight or bisexual. His cum tastes the same regardless of orientation. pubic_assistance, Danny-Darko, 56harrisond and 1 other 1 1 2
marylander1940 Posted March 27 Posted March 27 On 3/16/2025 at 12:42 PM, Vegas_Millennial said: How much tip should I leave a straight provider who doesn't meet my expectations? Or has this been asked before? (Rhetorical, please no one answer. Please see the dozens of other threads asked every year on these same subjects) Agreed! Mandatory merging of all threads about tipping, Uber, deposits, etc.! 56harrisond 1
marylander1940 Posted March 27 Posted March 27 On 3/16/2025 at 4:35 PM, Mo Mason said: I hire "straight" providers because I like to submit to them. Because I feel inferior to them. I know they don't find me attractive; I suspect nobody does. I like to be in their presence and to be degraded and further emasculated by them. Seeking some sort of approval? Not really. I just know my place. I don't want to take this off subject but raceplay also involves submission and knowing your place. pubic_assistance, + DrownedBoy and + Vegas_Millennial 1 1 1
Mo Mason Posted March 27 Posted March 27 31 minutes ago, marylander1940 said: I don't want to take this off subject but raceplay also involves submission and knowing your place. Being a woman (in my family) also involves this. I'm in a family full of Lutherans and Pentecostals. Maybe that's where I get it from; I grew up around a bunch of submissive housewives. Problem is they've all been submitting to some very unattractive men. Most of them are downright grotesque. At least I get to hire very good-looking men for that same roleplay. But that's why I hire "straight" escorts. They allow me to fall into that role much more convincingly than a gay provider. I know. I'm pretty messed up. Danny-Darko, marylander1940, pubic_assistance and 1 other 1 2 1
Danny-Darko Posted March 27 Posted March 27 1 hour ago, Mo Mason said: Being a woman (in my family) also involves this. I'm in a family full of Lutherans and Pentecostals. Maybe that's where I get it from; I grew up around a bunch of submissive housewives. Problem is they've all been submitting to some very unattractive men. Most of them are downright grotesque. At least I get to hire very good-looking men for that same roleplay. But that's why I hire "straight" escorts. They allow me to fall into that role much more convincingly than a gay provider. I know. I'm pretty messed up. WOW, that's interesting. Well, what ever gets you off! 👍 marylander1940 1
Mo Mason Posted March 27 Posted March 27 Thank you for the kind and subtle kink-shaming. I prefer that over outright meanness, I suppose. + DrownedBoy and marylander1940 2
Mo Mason Posted March 27 Posted March 27 Yes! Thank you, Mister Moderator. To remain on topic, I will end my diatribe with this: I almost exclusively seek straight providers because I am a (gay slur that begins with the letter f) and I like to be used and abused by straight men. Don't question me or the moderator will step in and shut you down, bitches. 🤪 MscleLovr, Archangel, + Vegas_Millennial and 5 others 3 4 1
pubic_assistance Posted March 27 Posted March 27 8 hours ago, Mo Mason said: At least I get to hire very good-looking men for that same roleplay. But that's why I hire "straight" escorts. They allow me to fall into that role much more convincingly than a gay provider. I know. I'm pretty messed up. I don't find that to be "messed up" at all. Everyone is allowed their sexual turn-on's. If you grew up thinking gay men to be inferior...then why would you PAY to have sex with one? Makes sense to me. The people "feeling sorry" for you probably don't know that some people can compartmentalize their sex life without it impacting how you feel about yourself on a day to day basis. Danny-Darko and + Vegas_Millennial 1 1
+ sync Posted March 27 Posted March 27 7 hours ago, Mo Mason said: Yes! Thank you, Mister Moderator. To remain on topic, I will end my diatribe with this: I almost exclusively seek straight providers because I am a (gay slur that begins with the letter f) and I like to be used and abused by straight men. Don't question me or the moderator will step in and shut you down, bitches. 🤪 I don't question or judge your attraction to straight or straight-appearing men, however, your desire to be used and abused might be an unrelated issue worthy of concern. Archangel, pubic_assistance and marylander1940 1 1 1
pubic_assistance Posted March 27 Posted March 27 38 minutes ago, sync said: your desire to be used and abused might be an unrelated issue worthy of concern. I've known many, many men who get-off on being used and abused by a masculine man. Its a fairly common sexual fetish. + Vegas_Millennial, Danny-Darko, FaustOust and 3 others 2 2 2
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