+ KensingtonHomo Posted March 27 Posted March 27 8 hours ago, Mo Mason said: Yes! Thank you, Mister Moderator. To remain on topic, I will end my diatribe with this: I almost exclusively seek straight providers because I am a (gay slur that begins with the letter f) and I like to be used and abused by straight men. Don't question me or the moderator will step in and shut you down, bitches. 🤪 I don't know how many gay guys you know (or straight ones, for that matter), but a fetish to be "used and abused" is pretty standard. I was raised Catholic and get off on power dynamics. My point is that for many of us reliving traumatic experiences while we ultimately retain control is cathartic. And if your profile photo is you; you're quite cute. pubic_assistance and Danny-Darko 1 1
francisssgorg Posted March 27 Posted March 27 (edited) Gay providers are picky, if not pickier, when it comes to clients. That's what grindr is for. Straight providers do their job and that's it. Some might be mechanical when doing the deed, but definitely there will be others who will do their best to keep their clients hooked, because it's their source of income. Massage itself is a form of relaxation. And "release" of stress. Why would I stress myself more to think if my provider will like me or not? Gay masseurs will do the massage, of course, you paid for it. But will they do their best? Maybe? If they like what they see... Physically. Let's be real. Some gay providers might have "certain" preferences. But would I waste time and energy to search for gay providers who will cater to me because I meet their "criteria"? Believe me, there are other parts of the world wherein majority of the provider or escort population are straight. Edited March 27 by francisssgorg pubic_assistance, + Vegas_Millennial and Danny-Darko 1 1 1
pubic_assistance Posted March 27 Posted March 27 1 hour ago, KensingtonHomo said: for many of us reliving traumatic experiences while we ultimately retain control is cathartic. marylander1940, + DrownedBoy, + KensingtonHomo and 1 other 1 1 1 1
+ DrownedBoy Posted March 28 Posted March 28 Yup. Personally, I would think of it as revenge - you're getting that straight high school jock who made fun of you, and now he's bending over for money. Then again, most gay men could say that about other gays they met, especially when young. marylander1940 1
+ Vegas_Millennial Posted March 28 Posted March 28 (edited) On 3/26/2025 at 5:08 PM, marylander1940 said: Agreed! Mandatory merging of all threads about tipping, Uber, deposits, etc.! Should I pay a deposit for an Uber driver, and then leave him a tip if he lets me blow him while driving? I seek exclusively straight Uber drivers (How's that for merging topics 😉) Any 411 on straight Uber drivers? (I'm not specifying a city, to get as many unhelpful responses as possible) Edited March 28 by Vegas_Millennial marylander1940, + DrownedBoy, thomas and 2 others 5
Archangel Posted March 28 Posted March 28 2 hours ago, DrownedBoy said: that straight high school jock who made fun of you, and now he's bending over for money I was fortunate in high school, despite my weight and sexuality, not to get made fun of. I was too useful. I was smart and if the straight jocks wanted to copy my work, they couldn’t piss all over me. My brains made me valuable. Further, if…if I hired a straight provider, I’d be bending over for him 🤣 Danny-Darko 1
Danny-Darko Posted March 28 Posted March 28 14 hours ago, Archangel said: I was fortunate in high school, despite my weight and sexuality, not to get made fun of. I was too useful. I was smart and if the straight jocks wanted to copy my work, they couldn’t piss all over me. My brains made me valuable. Further, if…if I hired a straight provider, I’d be bending over for him 🤣 Good for you!! 👏 I've come across several that that's the only way they'll let one play since they say they can't get hard for a man at all. So they bend over and have learned to take it and even give excellent head once they pass the inicial "Ick" phase and into the "just doin what you gotta do" frame of mind. "It's just a job and I need the money, and nobody is ever gonna know" is what they tell themselves. Some afterwards hire female hookers with their money, and some have even asked me if I'd hire a woman for them to play with while I play with him! Whatever works! There is not one cut and dry pattern for these men. + Vegas_Millennial 1
studchaser Posted April 5 Author Posted April 5 (edited) On 3/16/2025 at 11:09 AM, d.anders said: "Straight" providers are almost always going to be lazy lovers when working with a gay customer. They are also more selfish. They mostly want to be serviced, or a gaping hole, and they want control. If you're looking for a sensitive, masculine, romantic lover type, willing to explore and invest sexual energy with you, straight is not the answer. If kissing is your thing, a straight guy is a disaster. I have never been with a straight guy who was able to passionately kiss another man. Straight guys in sex work aren't usually famous for their acting skills. I've never met a straight guy who can suck cock like it was his last meal. If you want a BJ that will send you to the moon and back in first-class, hire a gay professional. Men who go for straight me.n arent looking to kiss passionately(or they shouldnt). The dynamics are different and it works for those into that scene. Edited April 5 by studchaser Danny-Darko, + DrownedBoy, pubic_assistance and 1 other 1 1 2
studchaser Posted April 5 Author Posted April 5 (edited) On 3/16/2025 at 12:53 PM, d.anders said: Well, a good fantasy doesn't always require engagement, at least not mutual engagement. I once met a married straight guy who was using the gym at a bath house in the southern Midwest. He was tall and slender, with dark hair and a beautiful cock and balls. He was only looking for a good blow job, and he was charming in the way he quietly expressed his honesty with me. I said I could help him if he wanted to join me in my room. He asked if I minded if he watched straight porn on his phone. I had first met him in the shower, so I knew he was clean. Once in my room, he was totally open to me licking anything and anywhere, and I did, but no kissing and no reciprocation. For me, it was pure heaven. Exactly. Not everyone is looking to fuk or get fuked or kiss under the moonlight. Many gay men prob just cant fathom that so they think you are being cheated out your money Edited April 5 by studchaser pubic_assistance and Danny-Darko 2
studchaser Posted April 5 Author Posted April 5 On 3/16/2025 at 7:35 PM, Mo Mason said: I don't hire for BFE's because, you're right, in an hour or two that connection just doesn't happen. Maybe during a repeat session or a weekend or week-long tryst, but I'm poor so that doesn't happen for me. I'm also a very timid, insecure, anxious person who grew up hearing about how awesome straight alpha men are and how disgusting and loathsome gay men are. I heard from my dad on more than one occasion that "fa****s should be taken out into the street and shot," so I developed the idea that good-looking heterosexual men are IT, the be all end all... I hire "straight" providers because I like to submit to them. Because I feel inferior to them. I know they don't find me attractive; I suspect nobody does. I like to be in their presence and to be degraded and further emasculated by them. Seeking some sort of approval? Not really. I just know my place. While your origin story seems a bit dark many gay men relish the concept of submitting to a brutish hypermasculine alpha. Even women have these fantasies and i imagine gay men are not to be outdone when it comes to fantasizing. pubic_assistance and + DrownedBoy 1 1
pubic_assistance Posted April 5 Posted April 5 6 minutes ago, studchaser said: Not everyone is looking to fuk or get fuked or kiss under the moonlifht. Many gay men prob just cant fathom EXACTLY. I have ZERO interest in kissing a hire. ( and anal sex is also not always interesting to me, especially on a first hook up ). Overall...I hire for SEX, not romance. Danny-Darko, studchaser and + Vegas_Millennial 2 1
studchaser Posted April 5 Author Posted April 5 On 3/27/2025 at 12:43 AM, Mo Mason said: Thank you for the kind and subtle kink-shaming. I prefer that over outright meanness, I suppose. Mo I just love how you move. You are very self aware and display high emotional intelligence. You revel in your kink and i love it. I think some of the gents may mean well with the patronizing but i can tell they have not truly tapped into the true emotional depths of tapping into your sexual hotspots. They are operating on the surface where its about physical acts "being fuked, fisting, etc" so they don't get the thrill it brings you whwn you know you are submitting to a guy who occupies a certain stratq in society. There is no real substitute for that. Thats why guys into this acwne will pay double and be satisted with what many see aa less i e. A lazy lover sitting back etc. They dont know you are bordering on if not entering nirvana in your mind while they have to get penetrated deeper or by more partners with poppers and substance and may never approach the heights you reach in the depths of your soul. Dont ever change!!! Mo Mason 1
studchaser Posted April 5 Author Posted April 5 On 3/27/2025 at 9:10 AM, sync said: I don't question or judge your attraction to straight or straight-appearing men, however, your desire to be used and abused might be an unrelated issue worthy of concern. I think there is some tongue and cheek going on. I tink he is using colorful language to deacribe the consenual dom sub dynamic within the straight alpha fetish context.
studchaser Posted April 5 Author Posted April 5 On 3/27/2025 at 10:34 AM, francisssgorg said: Gay providers are picky, if not pickier, when it comes to clients. That's what grindr is for. Straight providers do their job and that's it. Some might be mechanical when doing the deed, but definitely there will be others who will do their best to keep their clients hooked, because it's their source of income. Massage itself is a form of relaxation. And "release" of stress. Why would I stress myself more to think if my provider will like me or not? Gay masseurs will do the massage, of course, you paid for it. But will they do their best? Maybe? If they like what they see... Physically. Let's be real. Some gay providers might have "certain" preferences. But would I waste time and energy to search for gay providers who will cater to me because I meet their "criteria"? Believe me, there are other parts of the world wherein majority of the provider or escort population are straight. Thanks so much for this insightful contribution. Its very true in Latin America make escorts are usually straight. Before the gay liberation era it would be strange for a gay man(pejiratively called fairies) to pursue another "fairy". They would go after very ruggged working class men who needed money. Gay on gay is somewhat of a new concept and the historical ezception. Goes to show Americans are prudish on both ends of the spectrum . + DrownedBoy 1
GTMike Posted April 5 Posted April 5 (edited) 47 minutes ago, studchaser said: Men who go for straight nan arent looking to kiss passionately(or they shouldnt). The dynamics are different and it works for those into that scene. I really typically don't desire/want or enjoy kissing (that includes men and/or women) for the most part and incredibly picky. And don't disagree with ya for the most part, but ironically the absolute best kisser I've ever met and experiencedin my life is straight hahaha. Admittedly he was a very experienced and legit porn star with both men and women so in this case I'd totally say "practice made perfect". (He was single then and currently happily married with kids now) Edited April 5 by GTMike Just adding to original comment pubic_assistance 1
+ DrownedBoy Posted April 5 Posted April 5 Everyone has their own tastes; just make sure the provider is willing to go along. For example, I'm like the opposite. I don't engage in anal or oral sex with providers. I recall 2 Latino guys slapping their dick on my face to tempt me, but no go. Also, kissing does not need to be romantic, if combined with non-consensual roleplay. You can get really creative. I personally liked the "torturer who realized he was whipping the wrong guy, and tenderly tries to nurse him back to health" scenario. studchaser and pubic_assistance 1 1
Mo Mason Posted April 7 Posted April 7 On 3/27/2025 at 10:13 AM, KensingtonHomo said: And if your profile photo is you; you're quite cute. Don't I wish. That's an actor named Dylan Minnette. I've had my actual face on here before so some of you have seen me. I switch it up from time to time.
+ Vegas_Millennial Posted June 25 Posted June 25 @Felange said: Quote Felange Posted 19 hours ago As a career bottom, I've always gravitated towards masculine archetypes and naturally this has helped forged my tastes in providers. When looking for providers with my metaphorical score sheet, I am guilty of giving bonus points to providers who claim to be straight/bi career tops that G4P professionally. When I say professionally, I mean the type that know how to roleplay like they love to fuck you and fuck you the way you love. Find such tops is more scarce than before (in Western Europe), and I've seen gay providers who are stereotypically "gay" IRL, verse or even total bottoms deceptively take on this persona while escorting. Usually I can detect them within the first phone call, but rarely they slip through. It's real downer for me when it happens for me. There was incident where a "straight hard top" came over and I immediately knew he's my sister. I didn't want to hurt his feelings so I paid half the agreed amount and sent him off within 10 minutes of arriving as compensation for wasting his time (I blamed myself for not screening better). While I have no ill will towards my homo brethren, I love to pay for the fantasy and the sensation of being with a straight man who has turned for me and fucks me like his girlfriend. Some gay men can convincingly pull off this role or naturally exude "straight pure top" energy but extremely rare in my experience. Some straight men have figured out their market value (because they are straight) and may have upped their prices just for people like me. Anyway, I've gotten shit for this from some of my gay friends for perpetuating the G4P culture or not enriching the gay community (literally), but I can't help that they mostly just don't fit the bill. Just wanted to share and see if anyone else goes through similar experiences.
marylander1940 Posted June 25 Posted June 25 On 4/5/2025 at 5:06 PM, studchaser said: Exactly. Not everyone is looking to fuk or get fuked or kiss under the moonlight. Many gay men prob just cant fathom that so they think you are being cheated out your money yes, not everyone but most folks want to have anal sex and would appreciate the BFE. Some want to be used and even diminished by an Alpha guy who claims to be straight (even go into race play if applicable) but MOST guys are not interested in doing that with a "hire".
caliguy Posted June 25 Posted June 25 Reminds me of those porns where the straight guy gets serviced by the gay dude. The rule is the more disgusted he gets the wetter the panties the Queens will get. If the straight guy acts like he's getting turned on by though then that'll ruin their fantasy. It's weird.
pubic_assistance Posted June 25 Posted June 25 (edited) 8 hours ago, marylander1940 said: most folks want to have anal sex and would appreciate the BFE. Is that true ? "MOST" ? I've met a fair number of sides and oral-only men over my many years playing the field. Edited June 26 by pubic_assistance spelling MikeBiDude, Danny-Darko, + Vegas_Millennial and 1 other 3 1
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