United Healthcare CEO killed

[+ DrownedBoy]

2 hours ago, Luv2play said:

The feds have now brought murder charges against Mangioni that include the death penalty. This is a game changer. Bragg is saying that the state case will run in parallel. We’ll have to see how that plays out. 
This shows to me how the justice system is going all out to attack this kind of crime that threatens the economic and political establishment. 

Yup. We can't have the plebs realizing that CEOs are as mortal as us 🙄

I have no idea what will happen, but this society is about to snap. Emerson College's poll showed that 41% of young adults felt the shooting was morally justified.

When a few people laugh at a murder, they have a problem. When a plurality of the people laugh at a murder, society is the problem.

Those in charge better address the reasons the public is happy at the shooting, unless they want their executives gunned down as often as schoolchildren (I'm wintering near Madison, Wisconsin).

[+ augustus]

10 minutes ago, DrownedBoy said:

Emerson College's poll showed that 41% of young adults felt the shooting was morally justified.

Actually, 24 percent of those aged 18-29 found it “somewhat acceptable,” and 17 percent of that group found it completely acceptable so you are factually incorrect.

 

10 minutes ago, DrownedBoy said:

I have no idea what will happen, but this society is about to snap.

No it isn't.  Crybabies and entitled people snap.  That's not the majority thank God.  

Edited December 19, 2024 by augustus

[+ José Soplanucas]

14 minutes ago, DrownedBoy said:

I have no idea what will happen, but this society is about to snap.

I do not think so. However, the unexpected reaction to Luigi's alleged murder is a red flag.

I do not even think this is going to trigger significant change. I think we will see a big show punishing Luigi if find guilty, highlighting the hypocrisy and inequalities of today's USA. I think we will see another big show simulating changes. I do not think this society is about to snap. I do not think the establishment can change from within but I think it still has the ability to keep the status quo, in a deteriorating situation. Luigi's phenomenon is a huge red flag.

[+ augustus]

Here's an odd thought: what if this allegedly brilliant young man used his Ivy League education, family connections, and natural interests to better the US healthcare system with ideas and hard work rather than a murderous approach. Imagine.  If you support this killing, you are just as nutty as he is.  Seek help.

[+ augustus]

What a coward.  Walk up behind someone and shoot them in the back.  Same with the people who support him.  Say it to the man's face if you have such a problem with him and his policies.  What happened to that CEO could happen to you or anyone you know.  Flattening it into a simple case of good vs evil makes you feel safe.  It’s the same thinking Luigi was probably operating on as he gunned someone he deemed evil.  

[+ José Soplanucas]

My apologies in case this document has been shared before. This PDF is circulating as Luigi's manifesto. It is beautifully written, but I have not been able to proof its authenticity. It is pretty much a confession, so I wonder whether or not it is fabricated. A quote from towards the end:

I beg of you: scrutinize the system that calls itself “healthcare.” Look beyond the sensationalism that will inevitably surround my actions—spun by media outlets that rely on shock value. Penetrate the veil and see the underlying disease. Question every assumption about why a pill costs hundreds of dollars, why a specialist is out of reach, or why an insurance claim can be denied with impunity. Challenge every premise that leads to the commodification of health. I hope that future generations might look back at this turbulent era and wonder how we tolerated such cruelty under the guise of care. I hope they will marvel at how we once let human beings suffer and die while wealth piled up at the top, and I hope they will praise the efforts of those who dared to resist. If what I do today contributes a small brick to the foundation of a new healthcare paradigm, one defined by equity, compassion, and universal access, then my role in this story is meaningful. This manifesto is my final testament, my earnest appeal to the conscience of a world that has grown too comfortable with moral contradictions. Let the cost of my sacrifice be not in vain. Let it serve to ignite a transformative discussion and, more importantly, real action. The world desperately needs a healthcare system that honors its name: a system that is centered on healing and grounded in love, not money.

Healthcare and Its Victims - Luigi Mangione_241210_234351.pdf

Edited December 20, 2024 by José Soplanucas

[+ DrownedBoy]

2 hours ago, augustus said:

Actually, 24 percent of those aged 18-29 found it “somewhat acceptable,” and 17 percent of that group found it completely acceptable so you are factually incorrect.

Flunked second grade arithmetic, eh?

24 + 17 = 41

 

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Edited December 20, 2024 by DrownedBoy

[marylander1940]

1 hour ago, augustus said:

Here's an odd thought: what if this allegedly brilliant young man used his Ivy League education, family connections, and natural interests to better the US healthcare system with ideas and hard work rather than a murderous approach. Imagine.  If you support this killing, you are just as nutty as he is.  Seek help.

For example becoming a doctor and working for free

[+ Vegas_Millennial]

2 hours ago, José Soplanucas said:

"...The world desperately needs a healthcare system that honors its name: a system that is centered on healing and grounded in love, not money."

Solution right here: 

33 minutes ago, marylander1940 said:

For example becoming a doctor and working for free

I wish society would shine its spotlight on the great volunteers and researchers out there, and inspire more young folks with Luigi's potential to pick up a STEM or medical text book rather than a social media account in order to better themselves to better the world.

Edited December 20, 2024 by Vegas_Millennial

[+ José Soplanucas]

To relate to the friends pointing that Luigi has a privileged background. It gets really good after 9:20,

 

[marylander1940]

1 hour ago, Vegas_Millennial said:

Solution right here: 

I wish society would shine its spotlight on the great volunteers and researchers out there, and inspire more young folks with Luigi's potential to pick up a STEM or medical text book rather than a social media account in order to better themselves to better the world.

This was later simplified as "be the change you seek in the world". 

“We but mirror the world. All the tendencies present in the outer world are to be found in the world of our body. If we could change ourselves, the tendencies in the world would also change. As a man changes his own nature, so does the attitude of the world change towards him. This is the divine mystery supreme. A wonderful thing it is and the source of our happiness. We need not wait to see what others do.” – Mahatma Gandhi

 

[+ augustus]

2 hours ago, DrownedBoy said:

Flunked second grade arithmetic, eh?

24 + 17 = 41

Eh, you wrote 41% found it "morally justified".  Not true. 24 percent of those aged 18-29 found it “somewhat acceptable,” and 17 percent of that group found it "completely acceptable".  Nothing about "morally" justified.

Flunk reading comprehension? 

Edited December 20, 2024 by augustus

[caliguy]

25 minutes ago, augustus said:

Eh, you wrote 41% found it "morally justified".  Not true. 24 percent of those aged 18-29 found it “somewhat acceptable,” and 17 percent of that group found it "completely acceptable".  Nothing about "morally" justified.

Flunk reading comprehension? 

41% of that group thinks the CEO getting gunned down is 👍. If you truly believe that the CEO is killing people in mass then you'd also probably believe that Mangioni was morally justified to do what he did too. 

 

[+ augustus]

21 minutes ago, caliguy said:

41% of that group thinks the CEO getting gunned down is 👍. If you truly believe that the CEO is killing people in mass then you'd also probably believe that Mangioni was morally justified to do what he did too. 

 

The CEO is not killing people en masse.  Jesus.  The vast majority of claims are paid. The system is not as simplistic as you think it is.

Edited December 20, 2024 by augustus

[mike carey]

10 minutes ago, augustus said:

The CEO is not killing people en masse.  Jesus.  The vast majority of claims are paid. The system is not as simplistic as you think it is.

No body said he was, the quote was 'If you truly believe that .. then ...'

A world of difference.

[+ sniper]

I don't think the concerns about society snapping are as far fetched as some of you think they are. I think over the last 20 years the world has become much harder for most people who are not well above average in either ability or income. The safety net is not what it was and with smaller families people who do find themselves in trouble often don't have family to turn to.

[+ José Soplanucas]

It looks like they finally caught Magneto. 

[marylander1940]

Let's do not cross the line placing this criminal in a pedestal, it will backfire. 

[+ José Soplanucas]

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Luigi is an international success. In a college in Minas Gerais, they are organizing Luigi look alike competitions.

[caliguy]

4 hours ago, José Soplanucas said:

It looks like they finally caught Magneto. 

 

[pubic_assistance]

5 minutes ago, caliguy said:

 

It's more theatre for public consumption. You can see how Corporatocracy has affected our culture and the media.

[+ sync]

1 hour ago, José Soplanucas said:

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Luigi is an international success. In a college in Minas Gerais, they are organizing Luigi look alike competitions.

The backsliding of humanity is accelerating at an alarming rate.

[MikeBiDude]

54 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said:

It's more theatre for public consumption. You can see how Corporatocracy has affected our culture and the media.

This “perp walk” was disgusting, NYPD Chief, NY Mayor, WTF they’re adding to the circus atmosphere that they’re complaining about.

[+ sniper]

Perp walks should generally be banned IMO. How are they anything but prejudicial to potential jurors?

[marylander1940]

2 hours ago, sync said:

The backsliding of humanity is accelerating at an alarming rate.