United Healthcare CEO killed

[marylander1940]

1 hour ago, augustus said:

Here's an odd thought: what if this allegedly brilliant young man used his Ivy League education, family connections, and natural interests to better the US healthcare system with ideas and hard work rather than a murderous approach. Imagine.  If you support this killing, you are just as nutty as he is.  Seek help.

For example becoming a doctor and working for free

[+ Vegas_Millennial]

2 hours ago, José Soplanucas said:

"...The world desperately needs a healthcare system that honors its name: a system that is centered on healing and grounded in love, not money."

Solution right here: 

33 minutes ago, marylander1940 said:

For example becoming a doctor and working for free

I wish society would shine its spotlight on the great volunteers and researchers out there, and inspire more young folks with Luigi's potential to pick up a STEM or medical text book rather than a social media account in order to better themselves to better the world.

Edited December 20, 2024 by Vegas_Millennial

[+ José Soplanucas]

To relate to the friends pointing that Luigi has a privileged background. It gets really good after 9:20,

 

[marylander1940]

1 hour ago, Vegas_Millennial said:

Solution right here: 

I wish society would shine its spotlight on the great volunteers and researchers out there, and inspire more young folks with Luigi's potential to pick up a STEM or medical text book rather than a social media account in order to better themselves to better the world.

This was later simplified as "be the change you seek in the world". 

“We but mirror the world. All the tendencies present in the outer world are to be found in the world of our body. If we could change ourselves, the tendencies in the world would also change. As a man changes his own nature, so does the attitude of the world change towards him. This is the divine mystery supreme. A wonderful thing it is and the source of our happiness. We need not wait to see what others do.” – Mahatma Gandhi

 

[+ augustus]

2 hours ago, DrownedBoy said:

Flunked second grade arithmetic, eh?

24 + 17 = 41

Eh, you wrote 41% found it "morally justified".  Not true. 24 percent of those aged 18-29 found it “somewhat acceptable,” and 17 percent of that group found it "completely acceptable".  Nothing about "morally" justified.

Flunk reading comprehension? 

Edited December 20, 2024 by augustus

[caliguy]

25 minutes ago, augustus said:

Eh, you wrote 41% found it "morally justified".  Not true. 24 percent of those aged 18-29 found it “somewhat acceptable,” and 17 percent of that group found it "completely acceptable".  Nothing about "morally" justified.

Flunk reading comprehension? 

41% of that group thinks the CEO getting gunned down is 👍. If you truly believe that the CEO is killing people in mass then you'd also probably believe that Mangioni was morally justified to do what he did too. 

 

[+ augustus]

21 minutes ago, caliguy said:

41% of that group thinks the CEO getting gunned down is 👍. If you truly believe that the CEO is killing people in mass then you'd also probably believe that Mangioni was morally justified to do what he did too. 

 

The CEO is not killing people en masse.  Jesus.  The vast majority of claims are paid. The system is not as simplistic as you think it is.

Edited December 20, 2024 by augustus

[mike carey]

10 minutes ago, augustus said:

The CEO is not killing people en masse.  Jesus.  The vast majority of claims are paid. The system is not as simplistic as you think it is.

No body said he was, the quote was 'If you truly believe that .. then ...'

A world of difference.

[+ sniper]

I don't think the concerns about society snapping are as far fetched as some of you think they are. I think over the last 20 years the world has become much harder for most people who are not well above average in either ability or income. The safety net is not what it was and with smaller families people who do find themselves in trouble often don't have family to turn to.

[+ José Soplanucas]

It looks like they finally caught Magneto. 

[marylander1940]

Let's do not cross the line placing this criminal in a pedestal, it will backfire. 

[+ José Soplanucas]

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Luigi is an international success. In a college in Minas Gerais, they are organizing Luigi look alike competitions.

[caliguy]

4 hours ago, José Soplanucas said:

It looks like they finally caught Magneto. 

 

[pubic_assistance]

5 minutes ago, caliguy said:

 

It's more theatre for public consumption. You can see how Corporatocracy has affected our culture and the media.

[+ sync]

1 hour ago, José Soplanucas said:

Metropolises | The wave of lookalike contests arrived on the campus of the Federal University of Minas Gerais (UFMG). Young people came together to promote competition... | Instagram

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Luigi is an international success. In a college in Minas Gerais, they are organizing Luigi look alike competitions.

The backsliding of humanity is accelerating at an alarming rate.

[MikeBiDude]

54 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said:

It's more theatre for public consumption. You can see how Corporatocracy has affected our culture and the media.

This “perp walk” was disgusting, NYPD Chief, NY Mayor, WTF they’re adding to the circus atmosphere that they’re complaining about.

[+ sniper]

Perp walks should generally be banned IMO. How are they anything but prejudicial to potential jurors?

[marylander1940]

2 hours ago, sync said:

The backsliding of humanity is accelerating at an alarming rate.

 

[56harrisond]

2 hours ago, MikeBiDude said:

This “perp walk” was disgusting, NYPD Chief, NY Mayor, WTF they’re adding to the circus atmosphere that they’re complaining about.

Or at least Luigi should be shirtless, and give the people what they want.

[Marc in Calif]

18 hours ago, DrownedBoy said:

Flunked second grade arithmetic, eh?

24 + 17 = 41

Wrong. You and @caliguy are the ones who flunked arithmetic.

You're not reading the actual sentences correctly. It's not a simple second-grade addition of 24 + 17. It's a fifth-grade multiplication of .24 x .17. 😇

Take a look at the phrase "17 percent of that group." That group refers only to the 24 percent of those aged 18-29 who thought the murder was "somewhat acceptable." It does not refer to the total number of respondents.

So 17% of 24% means that only 4% of all respondents found his actions "completely acceptable."

But most importantly, your invented phrase "morally justifiable" never appears in the Emerson poll.

Epic arithment fail for you! 🎯

[+ augustus]

2 hours ago, 56harrisond said:

Or at least Luigi should be shirtless, and give the people what they want.

He is no longer yelling at the press during his transfers.  I think it is starting to sink in that he's never going to be free again. That must be a totally demoralizing and defeating realization; that your once privileged and wealthy life is immediately burnt toast.  The look on his face, his eyes tell the story.   I see fear and realization.

[56harrisond]

13 minutes ago, augustus said:

He is no longer yelling at the press during his transfers.  I think it is starting to sink in that he's never going to be free again. That must be a totally demoralizing and defeating realization; that your once privileged and wealthy life is immediately burnt toast.  The look on his face, his eyes tell the story.   I see fear and realization.

And he is now represented by counsel who would advise to say nothing and behave.

[caliguy]

2 hours ago, Marc in Calif said:

Wrong. You and @caliguy are the ones who flunked arithmetic.

You're not reading the actual sentences correctly. It's not a simple second-grade addition of 24 + 17. It's a fifth-grade multiplication of .24 x .17. 😇

Take a look at the phrase "17 percent of that group." That group refers only to the 24 percent of those aged 18-29 who thought the murder was "somewhat acceptable." It does not refer to the total number of respondents.

So 17% of 24% means that only 4% of all respondents found his actions "completely acceptable."

But most importantly, your invented phrase "morally justifiable" never appears in the Emerson poll.

Epic arithment fail for you! 🎯

No one said it was 41% of everyone. It's been reported in almost every newspaper as 41% of the 18-29 year old's in that survey thought the killing to be acceptable. That's all I was going by. 

I think you missed your calling though.

Edited December 20, 2024 by caliguy

[pubic_assistance]

6 hours ago, MikeBiDude said:

This “perp walk” was disgusting, NYPD Chief, NY Mayor, WTF they’re adding to the circus atmosphere that they’re complaining about.

This whole case is beginning to feel like a scene  from the Hunger Games.

[mike carey]

3 hours ago, Marc in Calif said:

Take a look at the phrase "17 percent of that group." That group refers only to the 24 percent of those aged 18-29 who thought the murder was "somewhat acceptable." It does not refer to the total number of respondents.

So 17% of 24% means that only 4% of all respondents found his actions "completely acceptable."

I have to disagree. To start with, completely acceptable is not a subset of somewhat acceptable, they are separate subsets of the total group of people polled. This commentary is talking about one age cohort of the overall number of respondents, those aged from 18 to 29. 'That group' referred to this cohort, not the subset of it that thought his actions were somewhat acceptable. The 41% figure is the total number in that age cohort who made either of those two responses (it's additive of the 17% and 24% for the two responses). So yes, 41% of respondents aged from 18 to 29 thought his actions were either acceptable or somewhat acceptable.

This was not a calculation where multiplication of percentages was relevant. If the premise of your 17% of 24% calculation had been correct, 4% would have not have been the proportion of all respondents who thought his actions were completely acceptable. It would have been the proportion of respondents who were both aged from 18 and 29 and found his actions completely acceptable.

Perhaps the percentages of all respondents who shared that assessment is different, but that was not the point of the post that was made, nor were any relevant numbers cited.