DWnyc Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 18 hours ago, Monarchy79 said: Escorts may not ask such questions, because they’re smart enough not to expect the truth from complete strangers. No one should. And, with what we have at our disposal now, it doesn’t really matter - we can protect ourselves in most scenarios (eg with Prep) regardless of honest disclosure or lack of awareness from our partners. Has only been a thing recently, another burden the young generation might not appreciate that older folk still carry with them. + APPLE1 and + Vegas_Millennial 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWnyc Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 4 hours ago, SouthOfTheBorder said: I still think reputable established providers are a much safer bet, in every way than anyone on the hookup apps. I’d gladly pay providers to avoid the Grindr/scruff cesspool. The key part being reputable and established. Providers seem to be increasing in number by the day - many are just trying to monetize their regular hookup lives and are part of what you call the cesspool. The first time a provider proactively offered to show me their latest test paperwork I was a little startled (and concerned they’d want to see mine which I wouldn’t share for identifying info reasons) but I now realize they were offering a different league of service (not saying I’d expect that from a provider I’d want to see). Compare that to a growing number where I know for a fact the status they list on RM is incorrect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ BenjaminNicholas Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 5 hours ago, Axiom2001 said: Or the providers "assume that all of their partners" are on Prep and/or Doxy prep; thus neither has to give a lot of thought as to fucking bareback or not. I can't imagine any intelligent escort thinking this way. That entirely too much trust in someone you likely don't know well. Bottom line, you protect YOURSELF first and then make judgement calls from there. We always have to think about consequence: It's weighing how much risk you're willing to put yourself in with how easy/accessible it is to treat what issue might crop up. DWnyc, + DrownedBoy, + APPLE1 and 3 others 2 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthOfTheBorder Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 (edited) 38 minutes ago, BenjaminNicholas said: It's weighing how much risk you're willing to put yourself in with how easy/accessible it is to treat what issue might crop up. This is the part I’m always wondering about - getting treatment when something pops up. If you’re in your home city - not a big deal, other than time for providers & others that travel a lot - domestic & international, that can’t be so easy. finding a doctor & scheduling w potential language barriers, the appointment w testing, waiting for results (2-3 days), treatment, then being out of commission for 7-10 days. might take longer in other places. and some places charge insane fees for testing & treatment current gonorrhea protocol is the shot & then the pills for 7 days. the z-pack doesn’t cut it anymore. If it’s syphilis, then it’s the super painful shot intermuscular shot. I feel like some providers must travel w everything they need to self-treat, including the shots. That would make sense except perhaps self-treating for the wrong things. And over-treatment if it’s a false alarm. yup - access to treatment is key, but no guarantees unless you are very familiar with your destinations what a bummer for a provider to spend the money on international working travel - only to be sidelined by an STI. Edited May 21 by SouthOfTheBorder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ BenjaminNicholas Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 46 minutes ago, SouthOfTheBorder said: This is the part I’m always wondering about - getting treatment when something pops up. If you’re in your home city - not a big deal, other than time for providers & others that travel a lot - domestic & international, that can’t be so easy. finding a doctor & scheduling w potential language barriers, the appointment w testing, waiting for results (2-3 days), treatment, then being out of commission for 7-10 days. might take longer in other places. and some places charge insane fees for testing & treatment current gonorrhea protocol is the shot & then the pills for 7 days. the z-pack doesn’t cut it anymore. If it’s syphilis, then it’s the super painful shot intermuscular shot. I feel like some providers must travel w everything they need to self-treat, including the shots. That would make sense except perhaps self-treating for the wrong things. And over-treatment if it’s a false alarm. yup - access to treatment is key, but no guarantees unless you are very familiar with your destinations what a bummer for a provider to spend the money on international working travel - only to be sidelined by an STI. Unless you're in a very, very remote place, finding care is not difficult. Escorts with their own injectables? Perhaps, but not likely. You'd eventually be stopped by customs and asked a whole slew of questions. No bueno. A smart escort has access to a doc on demand (through an app or website) and can find access to hospitals or clinics in the areas they're traveling if the shit hits the fan. I always travel with a slew of medications (zpack, doxy, etc... No syringes). For me, it's more about general sickness or avoiding infections. When it comes to a perceived STD, I'd video chat with my doc, get a recommendation on local clinic and then figure out the best plan of attack. Bottom line, if you want to find medical care, you probably will. + KensingtonHomo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ DrownedBoy Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 21 hours ago, BenjaminNicholas said: Bottom line, if you want to find medical care, you probably will. It can be hard depending on the issue. I have health insurance, but I had to go to the county health clinic to get my monkeypox vaccine. Humbling experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ BenjaminNicholas Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 58 minutes ago, DrownedBoy said: It can be hard depending on the issue. I have health insurance, but I had to go to the county health clinic to get my monkeypox vaccine. Humbling experience. Humbling? Interesting comment. That said, it is what it is. You were responsible enough to get the job done and that's key. Even jumping through some hoops, it's always worth it. mike carey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ KensingtonHomo Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 3 hours ago, BenjaminNicholas said: Humbling? Interesting comment. That said, it is what it is. You were responsible enough to get the job done and that's key. Even jumping through some hoops, it's always worth it. We wanted to get the M Pox vaccine ASAP so we went to the government clinic at a local school. It was a nice community experience, seeing people we know, and a sense that we were protecting each other. Given that COVID had been politically insane by then, it was a nice change. MikeBiDude, + APPLE1 and + BenjaminNicholas 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeBiDude Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 11 hours ago, KensingtonHomo said: We wanted to get the M Pox vaccine ASAP so we went to the government clinic at a local school. It was a nice community experience, seeing people we know, and a sense that we were protecting each other. Given that COVID had been politically insane by then, it was a nice change. I went to a city/county health department tent/trailer setup in a community college parking lot. Both doses…was simple. + KensingtonHomo and + APPLE1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soloyo215 Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 On 5/17/2024 at 10:30 AM, Alex4475 said: I know there are a lot of escorts who never divulge nor inquire of SDTs. I also know someone who recently got HIV from an escort who professed he was safe and on preventative meds. Legalization is necessary in order to maintain safety standards. Could be a great tax base. You agree? More of a subject that we tend to minimize. Yes, legalization has proven to be beneficial in terms of public health, and with mixed results about a tax base influencing economies. The way I see it is that it's no different than the rest of the world. Some are responsible with themselves and their bodies, some are not. It's on us to protect ourselves and designate our own acceptable level of risk, considering the reality that it's not regulated and not legal. I am completely against the criminalization of HIV, so although a person can be reported for transmitting it to another person, the victim will have to admit that he was soliciting. No easy answers or solutions in that respect. Other than calculating our level of comfort with the risk we get involved in, there's not a lot more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quincy_7 Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 The rules are very simple. As a default, just stick with condoms. If you want to bareback, use PreP. It's not rocket science. Personally, I'm in the condom only crowd. I've read a number of studies about PreP causing bone loss and kidney/liver issues. I don't want to have a shitty older age and so why would I open the door to those issues? I just stick with condoms and call it a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthOfTheBorder Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 (edited) I’ve never been asked anything about sexual health by a provider - in 40 years. i assume whatever they do with me - they’re doing same exact thing with dozens of other people. And those other people are doing same thing too. I tend to hire guys who specify safe-only in profiles. Right or wrong, I assume that’s an indicator they are more health-conscious. And on the flip-side, never hiring a provider w “anything goes” or PNP in profile. I usually ask the provider if condoms are ok when booking just to confirm & let them know my expectations. It’s not foolproof & there’s always risk - but it’s about reducing the risk to something acceptable & then having a good time….its supposed to be fun & pleasurable. Edited May 23 by SouthOfTheBorder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ DrownedBoy Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 On 5/22/2024 at 6:08 PM, BenjaminNicholas said: Humbling? Interesting comment. Very. You ever visit the main Cook County clinic? The place is so bad that lights flicker, and their medical record system is completely broken down. And yet, I saw many Latino families waiting hours there, as it was the only place they could get care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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