Breaking Down a Barrier with a Provider

[jmichaeliii]

I have a provider in my area that I see somewhat regularly for erotic massage.  The guy is a fantastic masseur and provides one of the best HE I have ever had.

We chat quite a bit and I know he has kids, so I'm not 100% sure exactly what he's into.  He's also not your sculpted provider (maybe 15 or so pounds heavy), but I find him to be really hot.  His accent, demeanor, skills all turn me on.

I'd love to see if there is more, but I'm struggling to get the nerve to just ask.  He is clothed during the massage until the HE nears, then the shorts come off for me to play a bit before we finish.

I'm not saying going all the way, but I'd love more mutual contact with the guy.  Do I just ask, or try and drop some hints during the massage?  I don't want to be a grabby jerk as I believe in respecting boundaries and I feel like he has established those without coming out and saying it.

I'm seeing him this morning again and would immensely enjoy going to a new level.

[56harrisond]

 

[Muscleking]

40 minutes ago, jmichaeliii said:

I have a provider in my area that I see somewhat regularly for erotic massage.  The guy is a fantastic masseur and provides one of the best HE I have ever had.

We chat quite a bit and I know he has kids, so I'm not 100% sure exactly what he's into.  He's also not your sculpted provider (maybe 15 or so pounds heavy), but I find him to be really hot.  His accent, demeanor, skills all turn me on.

I'd love to see if there is more, but I'm struggling to get the nerve to just ask.  He is clothed during the massage until the HE nears, then the shorts come off for me to play a bit before we finish.

I'm not saying going all the way, but I'd love more mutual contact with the guy.  Do I just ask, or try and drop some hints during the massage?  I don't want to be a grabby jerk as I believe in respecting boundaries and I feel like he has established those without coming out and saying it.

I'm seeing him this morning again and would immensely enjoy going to a new level.

I always let the provider take the lead, I try not to be forceful in my actions because in the event the provider says no it can make future appts feel weird and you may loose getting what you already have.. so I’d suggest letting him take the lead and see how far he’s willing to go. 

[jmichaeliii]

24 minutes ago, Muscleking said:

I always let the provider take the lead, I try not to be forceful in my actions because in the event the provider says no it can make future appts feel weird and you may loose getting what you already have.. so I’d suggest letting him take the lead and see how far he’s willing to go. 

That's what I have been doing.   I don't want to wreck what is already a good relationship. 

[pubic_assistance]

2 hours ago, jmichaeliii said:

 

I'm not saying going all the way, but I'd love more mutual contact with the guy.  Do I just ask......?

Use the universal language of cash to inquire.

[Jamie21]

He’s being respectful of you. Thats to be valued. As a masseur I really appreciate the clients who aren’t demanding I fuck them or whatever. I suggest you take it slowly with him and if you’d like him fully naked for example then perhaps run your hand up his torso under his top when his shorts come down. He’ll get the hint and either remove his top, or your hand….

[marylander1940]

3 hours ago, jmichaeliii said:

I have a provider in my area that I see somewhat regularly for erotic massage.  The guy is a fantastic masseur and provides one of the best HE I have ever had.

We chat quite a bit and I know he has kids, so I'm not 100% sure exactly what he's into.  He's also not your sculpted provider (maybe 15 or so pounds heavy), but I find him to be really hot.  His accent, demeanor, skills all turn me on.

I'd love to see if there is more, but I'm struggling to get the nerve to just ask.  He is clothed during the massage until the HE nears, then the shorts come off for me to play a bit before we finish.

I'm not saying going all the way, but I'd love more mutual contact with the guy.  Do I just ask, or try and drop some hints during the massage?  I don't want to be a grabby jerk as I believe in respecting boundaries and I feel like he has established those without coming out and saying it.

I'm seeing him this morning again and would immensely enjoy going to a new level.

 

Naked HE is already pretty intimate. Ask him if he also escorts and what's the rate difference. Are you looking for a BFE with him?

[Muscleking]

2 hours ago, jmichaeliii said:

That's what I have been doing.   I don't want to wreck what is already a good relationship. 

You can always ask if he offers other services and if so what are the prices.. but if he says no he’s only a masseur then I’d let him lead and see how far it goes.. I’ve had some guys after a few appts and get more comfortable allow more to happen and I tip well to show them my appreciation and I’ve had other times where the provider doesn’t.

[d.anders]

3 hours ago, jmichaeliii said:

I don't want to be a grabby jerk

That's good. Being aggressive and greedy is a surefire way to kill the future. I find gentle, respectful conversation to be very helpful. Guys who are good at massage tend to be sensitive men. They will appreciate you being vulnerable, and they will most likely be honest in return. Asking about escorting is an easy way to get a sense of where he stands. Money can be a great motivator, but some guys won't cross certain boundaries even for that. Whatever you do, don't disrupt what you have. It's very rare, and good things don't last forever.

[jmichaeliii]

1 hour ago, Jamie21 said:

He’s being respectful of you. Thats to be valued. As a masseur I really appreciate the clients who aren’t demanding I fuck them or whatever. I suggest you take it slowly with him and if you’d like him fully naked for example then perhaps run your hand up his torso under his top when his shorts come down. He’ll get the hint and either remove his top, or your hand….

So I just left the session and it did change.  The routine was the same up to the HE part where his shorts were down.  He was again sporting a rock hard boner.  This time I stroked that, but I also massaged his biceps a bit which he seemed cool with, then I reached under the shirt and massaged his stomach and nipples, again seemed ok.  So I put my hand on his hip and slightly tugged towards me and before you know it, I had something in my mouth.  We both had near simultaneous finishes.  Was a fantastic day!

[+ KensingtonHomo]

28 minutes ago, jmichaeliii said:

So I just left the session and it did change.  The routine was the same up to the HE part where his shorts were down.  He was again sporting a rock hard boner.  This time I stroked that, but I also massaged his biceps a bit which he seemed cool with, then I reached under the shirt and massaged his stomach and nipples, again seemed ok.  So I put my hand on his hip and slightly tugged towards me and before you know it, I had something in my mouth.  We both had near simultaneous finishes.  Was a fantastic day!

In my experience, when you seem the same masseur regularly things progress naturally to the level they're comfortable. My regular guy definitely goes way further now than when I started seeing him three years ago. But we also have lovely chats, and genuine chemistry. But that unfolded over time. 

[pubic_assistance]

58 minutes ago, KensingtonHomo said:

In my experience, when you seem the same masseur regularly things progress naturally to the level they're comfortable. My regular guy definitely goes way further now than when I started seeing him three years ago. But we also have lovely chats, and genuine chemistry. But that unfolded over time. 

I second this opinion.

I have definitely gotten more and more intimate over time with various masseurs, who were regulars and who I tipped well after every massage. The levels of intimacy were always at THEIR discretion. Never requested.

On the other hand there were one or two, who I've seen a few times and the happy ending always stayed in tact as nothing more than a hand job and some naked eye candy.

Everyone has a different business model with erotic massage.

I know one of the fellows I've seen regularly was an escort in his younger days...so not at all opposed to the idea. Just not what he does NOW.

[+ KensingtonHomo]

1 hour ago, pubic_assistance said:

I know one of the fellows I've seen regularly was an escort in his younger days...so not at all opposed to the idea. Just not what he does NOW.

It's funny. This came up with my regular guy yesterday. He said he doesn't escort because he's not able to perform if he's not attracted to the person. And he's had a couple of experiences with crazy clients - like stalker shit - even just doing massage. So he just feels like escorting would increase the chances of dealing with crazy. 

[Jamie21]

3 hours ago, KensingtonHomo said:

In my experience, when you seem the same masseur regularly things progress naturally to the level they're comfortable. My regular guy definitely goes way further now than when I started seeing him three years ago. But we also have lovely chats, and genuine chemistry. But that unfolded over time. 

I think that’s great. I go further with regular clients than I would if he’s a new client. Firstly with a new client you don’t really know yet what he’s comfortable with, and secondly I think for it to feel right one needs to know that the client is the respectful type. It’s also rewarding for regular clients. If he’s been a few times I know he likes my massage and my company and so that naturally leads to a better connection and then to a better intimacy during the ‘extra’ elements of the massage. 

[Monarchy79]

On 5/3/2024 at 6:44 AM, jmichaeliii said:

That's what I have been doing.   I don't want to wreck what is already a good relationship. 

Relationship? 

[jmichaeliii]

7 minutes ago, Monarchy79 said:

Relationship? 

Business relationship.  They are all business relationships with mutual respect for each party.  

I am respectful with everyone I hire and I find that goes a long way toward a fun and relaxed session.

[pubic_assistance]

3 hours ago, Monarchy79 said:

Relationship? 

There are all kinds of relationships in life.

Some of my most enjoyable, are with people whom I have done business for many years and we ended up with a close friendship.

There are several masseurs who moved on to other careers thst I keep in touch with, just to say I am happy for them and how I enjoyed our time together, and wishing them well in their future.

One is now a fashion designer, another is a nurse and another has become a rather successful TV actor. Happy for all of them, because we did have a pleasant friendly "relationship" beyond the hour or two spent on the table.

[jmichaeliii]

51 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said:

There are all kinds of relationships in life.

Some of my most enjoyable, are with people whom I have done business for many years and we ended up with a close friendship.

There are several masseurs who moved on to other careers thst I keep in touch with, just to say I am happy for them and how I enjoyed our time together, and wishing them well in their future.

One is now a fashion designer, another is a nurse and another has become a rather successful TV actor. Happy for all of them, because we did have a pleasant friendly "relationship" beyond the hour or two spent on the table.

That's what I was driving at when I used that word.  I'm on friendly terms with a couple of the guys I hire.  

We text, talk about life and family.  Just overall niceness to each other.