Monarchy79 Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 3 hours ago, pubic_assistance said: @Simon Suraci If you're not specifically addressing a person, you're not "putting others down". Not everyone subscribes to this lady's tea party attitude of: "If you don't have something nice to say, don't say it at all". My grandmother would enjoy your company, but, personally I'd be bored. Life would be very dull if everyone just smiled and agreed with each other. Differences of opinions make for a FAR more interesting conversation, as long as you don't sling insults directly into someone's face. I don't agree with your call for a fascist Disneyland kind of control over conversation. Sorry. I differ with you on many topics. I don’t need to insult you to express that disagreement. The conversation can still be interesting without nastiness and vitriol. Simon Suraci 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubic_assistance Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 3 hours ago, SirBillybob said: Surely the total absence of male circumcision would never have induced revulsion. Most likely true. I grew up in an all white American small city where everyone was circumcised. So that's what looks "normal" to me. It's a reasonable argument that had circumcision not been the standard, I wouldn't be repulsed by it. But the fact remains that I didn't see an uncut dick for many years. So my mind says "yuck" when I see one. Nothing I can do to change that. + DrownedBoy, SirBillybob and Medin 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBillybob Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 23 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said: Most likely true. I grew up in an all white American small city where everyone was circumcised. So that's what looks "normal" to me. It's a reasonable argument that had circumcision not been the standard, I wouldn't be repulsed by it. But the fact remains that I didn't see an uncut dick for many years. So my mind says "yuck" when I see one. Nothing I can do to change that. Yes, we are born to learn to be able to recognize the familiar and predictable. The unfamiliar evokes involuntary mental reaction and that is adaptive in many cases. Our central affective states are happy, sad, angry, anxious, surprise, revulsion. Note that the majority of affective adaptation exists in the more negative realm. I think I was more startled when first aware of intact foreskin. As well, surprised and curious when as a young child comparing my genitalia to that of my sister plunked into the same bathwater. Then surprised about her later menstruation onset. In your case perhaps it is harder to bury the lead: a kind of disoriented revulsion. First impressions tend to be strongly anchored. I will happily snack on dark dried raisins but I will never be persuaded to eat a slice of raisin pie, and I pick out and discard raisins from muffins and butter tarts. I guess I reacted poorly to the novel texture or I was nauseous for some unrelated reason. I have no problem with prunes or any other dried fruit in baking. We possess in common a seemingly irreversible and idiosyncratic revulsion not particularly amenable to alteration via more advanced cognitive processes. I’ll take mine, though, thank ye very much. pubic_assistance 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBillybob Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 (edited) … for some reason I tried to add a final paragraph and the edit function crashed but I caught a screenshot: Edited March 17 by SirBillybob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monarchy79 Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 (edited) 4 hours ago, pubic_assistance said: Most likely true. I grew up in an all white American small city where everyone was circumcised. So that's what looks "normal" to me. It's a reasonable argument that had circumcision not been the standard, I wouldn't be repulsed by it. But the fact remains that I didn't see an uncut dick for many years. So my mind says "yuck" when I see one. Nothing I can do to change that. Well….. sharing that you grew up in an all white American small city, and your mind saying “yuck”, to things that weren’t the “standard”, based on your environment, this speaks volumes to your pathology, how you think, and the comments you make in these forums. Edited March 17 by Monarchy79 pubic_assistance and Marc in Calif 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubic_assistance Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 7 hours ago, Monarchy79 said: based on your environment, this speaks volumes to your pathology, how you think, and the comments you make in these forums. We all have an origin story. Which is why it's ridiculous to attempt to apply YOUR standards of what's "normal" sexually to another person with a different origin story. Sexuality is a private matter with lots of subconscious drivers. For whatever reasons I generally favor men with dark hair and brown eyes. So Latino men often catch my attention...but I usually pass knowing what I'm going to have to deal with down under. (Unless they're SO sub that i wont be expected to reciprocate). So I sympathize with the OP who started this thread. There are some places in Latin America where hospitals will recommend circumcision for baby boys. So it's not an impossible find. In a pinch, I just ask an uncut bottom to wear a jockstrap so I don't have to look at it. 🙈 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monarchy79 Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 33 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said: We all have an origin story. Which is why it's ridiculous to attempt to apply YOUR standards of what's "normal" sexually to another person with a different origin story. Sexuality is a private matter with lots of subconscious drivers. For whatever reasons I generally favor men with dark hair and brown eyes. So Latino men often catch my attention...but I usually pass knowing what I'm going to have to deal with down under. (Unless they're SO sub that i wont be expected to reciprocate). So I sympathize with the OP who started this thread. There are some places in Latin America where hospitals will recommend circumcision for baby boys. So it's not an impossible find. In a pinch, I just ask an uncut bottom to wear a jockstrap so I don't have to look at it. 🙈 Are you telling those Latino men that you have sex with (who are uncut bottoms), that you think their uncut penises are disgusting? Since you’re unabashedly blunt, with no concern for insulting others in these forums in these forums, I wonder if you behave the same way in those scenarios too. Marc in Calif, Medin, + DrownedBoy and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monarchy79 Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 (edited) 39 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said: We all have an origin story. Which is why it's ridiculous to attempt to apply YOUR standards of what's "normal" sexually to another person with a different origin story. Sexuality is a private matter with lots of subconscious drivers. For whatever reasons I generally favor men with dark hair and brown eyes. So Latino men often catch my attention...but I usually pass knowing what I'm going to have to deal with down under. (Unless they're SO sub that i wont be expected to reciprocate). So I sympathize with the OP who started this thread. There are some places in Latin America where hospitals will recommend circumcision for baby boys. So it's not an impossible find. In a pinch, I just ask an uncut bottom to wear a jockstrap so I don't have to look at it. 🙈 I’ve never set any “standards” for anyone’s preferences. I set standards for decorum, consideration and respect. Those are the “standards” you have difficulty comprehending and demonstrating. But I understand that your “subconscious drivers”, and your “origin story” will usually lead you in the same direction every time. Edited March 17 by Monarchy79 pubic_assistance 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 13 hours ago, pubic_assistance said: Most likely true. I grew up in an all white American small city where everyone was circumcised. So that's what looks "normal" to me. It's a reasonable argument that had circumcision not been the standard, I wouldn't be repulsed by it. But the fact remains that I didn't see an uncut dick for many years. So my mind says "yuck" when I see one. Nothing I can do to change that. I prefer cut and I'm cut myself too. As long as the foreskin is fully removable and washable I love uncut. Actually, my regular in DC is uncut and very clean. I must say I've had bad experiences with uncircumcised Americans who must be told go to and wash it before and even after sex.... As I've said before: "The French wash from the waist down, we (Anglo-Saxons) wash from the waist up". Medin, Marc in Calif and pubic_assistance 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBillybob Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 (edited) Physical and moral revulsion are emotional cousins but associated with different cognitive states and autonomic nervous system processing. If you are primed to categorize the phenomenon of idiosyncratic physical disgust in relation to an entity as evidence of sociopathy, based on your background experience with an individual in which your perception is already negatively oriented, then your moral indignation related to this one isolated example is no less a logical fallacy than his assuming that his subjective and protracted physical response, also anchored in context, categorically defines the entity as disgusting. (I did not detect such an assertion on his part.) This bias alone nullifies the argument that the isolated phenomenon exemplifies a social background priming the privilege of othering. The legitimacy of moral (eg, character, personality) judgement is no less arguable than the physically induced affective state of revulsion. We see that either may spontaneously manifest and reside on a continuum of alterability. Edited March 17 by SirBillybob pubic_assistance and Marc in Calif 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubic_assistance Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 (edited) 11 hours ago, Monarchy79 said: Are you telling those Latino men that you have sex with (who are uncut bottoms), that you think their uncut penises are disgusting? No. I am not. I simply coax them into wearing a jockstrap, I make them think I have an underwear fetish, not a revulsion to uncut dick. Edited March 18 by pubic_assistance spelling Vulgarii, + nycman and Monarchy79 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monarchy79 Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 (edited) 5 hours ago, pubic_assistance said: No. I am not. I simply coax them into wearing a jockstrap, I make them think I have an underwear fetish, not a revulsion to uncut dick. So now you’ve confirmed dishonesty and manipulation (hence the “coaxing”) too. You’re a true class act. Edited March 18 by Monarchy79 LookingAround, pubic_assistance and + DrownedBoy 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarrod_Uncut Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 As an uncut person with Latin background who isn’t a bottom but, depending on the situation…I say SUCK IT, you might like it 😂 thomas, + Socalguy, LookingAround and 1 other 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubic_assistance Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 6 hours ago, Monarchy79 said: You’re a true class act. Yes. True. Thank you for noticing. 😘 Medin, Monarchy79, thomas and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBillybob Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 (edited) 3 hours ago, pubic_assistance said: Yes. True. Thank you for noticing. 😘 “I’ll just say I like the PUMP! Jock on.” Despicably manipulative much? Evil vortex much? Who does that?! Edited March 18 by SirBillybob pubic_assistance 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulgarii Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 On 3/2/2024 at 7:42 AM, nycman said: Odd. I too have a mild preference for circumcised guys but when you’re face down in the pillow and your ass is up in the air, why would I care if you’re circumcised or not. You may as well require that they be left-handed and have 6 toes on their right foot too. To each his own, but I think you’re limiting your fun by being too specific. And that’s coming from another top who also likes circumcised guys. Perhaps because uncut smells a certain way, and it's worse if they are completely shaved down there. I've seen/been with thousands of naked men of all demographics by now, and every group smells a certain way or in a small spectrum of ways lol, and some of us are just very precise with what we like, and with what we don't want to tolerate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viewing ownly Posted April 18 Author Share Posted April 18 On 3/17/2024 at 6:12 AM, Monarchy79 said: Are you telling those Latino men that you have sex with (who are uncut bottoms), that you think their uncut penises are disgusting? Since you’re unabashedly blunt, with no concern for insulting others in these forums in these forums, I wonder if you behave the same way in those scenarios too. It was I who started the thread a long time ago to begin with, not Public_Assistance. In hind sight (words separated for pun use), I should've kept my personal desire to myself, as I specifically asked my post to not turn into an endless cut / uncut discussion which takes my subject off track. Even a moderator kindly urged the off-topic bickering to stop to no avail. Not everyone's preferences for anything, be it race, height, penis appearance, etc. will be the same as anyone else - that's what's so great about being our own different selves. I can only hope that a subject of Icelandic uncut tops can create the same dialogue. (kidding) pubic_assistance and thomas 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monarchy79 Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 2 hours ago, viewing ownly said:In hind sight (words separated for pun use), I should've kept my personal desire to myself, I’m glad you shared your personal desire/preferences , and I also think that some of the most intense discussions are the ones where people actually learn from the most. What makes these forums valuable is the authenticity in what forum members post. pubic_assistance, Simon Suraci, Medin and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjmuktop Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Finding circumcised Latino guys might be a bit tricky, as most Latinos are uncut (circumcision is not a part of Latino culture; the penises of baby boys are left fully intact. It is the same here in Europe, where the only males who get circumcised are religious minorities such as Muslims and Jews, and those with medical conditions requiring circumcision). I always remember the first circumcised penis that I ever saw in real life, with my own eyes. He was the second escort I ever hired back in about 2007 or 2008. He advertised as Italian on his Gaydar Commercial profile, but many years later I found out that he was/is actually Brazilian, thanks to someone on here who responded to a post I made about him: I remember taking it in my mouth and can still remember how strange (in a good way!) it really felt. The head was so smooth, I couldn't get over the smoothness and how good the sensation of it in my mouth was. Ever since that day, I have had an overwhelming preference for cut cock over uncut. Being in the UK, where most men are uncut, means I don't get to experience many circumcised or 'cut' cocks, but never mind... 🥲 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAboy Posted Thursday at 11:10 PM Share Posted Thursday at 11:10 PM We do exist! 👋🏼 + azdr0710, MikeBiDude, + DynamicUno and 3 others 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted Saturday at 09:05 PM Share Posted Saturday at 09:05 PM On 4/25/2024 at 7:10 PM, LAboy said: We do exist! 👋🏼 Simon Suraci and LAboy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAboy Posted yesterday at 12:23 AM Share Posted yesterday at 12:23 AM On 4/27/2024 at 2:05 PM, marylander1940 said: When I began meeting guys, I'd always get the comment; "Oh, you're cut!?" It was always a mixture of some guys cool with it and some bummed about it. However, I have a couple guys that were super into the fact I'm a bottom and cut. I get it though, I have a particular type when it comes to dick. 😌 thomas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted yesterday at 12:40 AM Share Posted yesterday at 12:40 AM 15 minutes ago, LAboy said: When I began meeting guys, I'd always get the comment; "Oh, you're cut!?" It was always a mixture of some guys cool with it and some bummed about it. However, I have a couple guys that were super into the fact I'm a bottom and cut. I get it though, I have a particular type when it comes to dick. 😌 Do you speak English with an accent? If you don't I would assume you were born here and therefore you're cut. pubic_assistance 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAboy Posted yesterday at 12:46 AM Share Posted yesterday at 12:46 AM 2 minutes ago, marylander1940 said: Do you speak English with an accent? If you don't I would assume you were born here and therefore you're cut. I do have an accent. Although I was born in the states, my parents were not. One from Mexico, the other Spain. thomas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted yesterday at 12:47 AM Share Posted yesterday at 12:47 AM Just now, LAboy said: I do have an accent. Although I was born in the states, my parents were not. One from Mexico, the other Spain. That's why they assume you are uncut, just like I would assume someone from Europe is very likely to be uncut. LAboy and pubic_assistance 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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