Uber add-on

[NJF]

9 hours ago, KensingtonHomo said:

Perhaps @Marc in Calif is right that it's an NYC/DC/Chicago thing. But A list celebrities take the subway in NYC. Broadway stars take the subway. So the idea that some fit, healthy 28 year old can't take the subway is just silly. 

You often get to where you want to go faster using subway. Sometimes it is faster by walking than taking a cab or Uber in Manhattan 😂 

[pubic_assistance]

26 minutes ago, NJF said:

You often get to where you want to go faster using subway. Sometimes it is faster by walking than taking a cab or Uber in Manhattan 😂 

During the day, you could walk faster than a taxi. But at night a taxi is a safer alternative, now that the subway is full of mentally ill drug addicts. I'm guessing most escort appointments are at night, so taking an Uber is reasonable.

[NYXboy]

5 hours ago, Vegas_Millennial said:

Yes, but sending for a ride share also acts as a low-risk way of paying a sort of deposit.  The provider knows he's not going to waste his time traveling to an address only to arrive and have no one there.  And the client only risks a ride share cancellation fee in the event the provider does not show, rather than paying a provider a deposit in advance which is never recommended.

this is exactly why I have NO problem sending uber and im actually astonished people have an issue or say "its so complicated" 

[+ KensingtonHomo]

3 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

During the day, you could walk faster than a taxi. But at night a taxi is a safer alternative, now that the subway is full of mentally ill drug addicts. I'm guessing most escort appointments are at night, so taking an Uber is reasonable.

Do you get any channels besides Fox News? I was on the subway last night and there was an occasional homeless person, but it was mostly average NYCers. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[pubic_assistance]

11 hours ago, KensingtonHomo said:

Do you get any channels besides Fox News? I was on the subway last night and there was an occasional homeless person, but it was mostly average NYCers. 🤷🏻‍♂️

I LIVE in NYC. The subway is currently a security problem at night, whether you choose to ignore it or not. I would gladly pay for my "date" to get home safely.

 

[+ DrownedBoy]

2 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

I LIVE in NYC. The subway is currently a security problem at night, whether you choose to ignore it or not. I would gladly pay for my "date" to get home safely.

 

Turn on WGN in the morning to find out who got shot on the "L" overnight in Chicago.

[+ KensingtonHomo]

7 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

I LIVE in NYC. The subway is currently a security problem at night, whether you choose to ignore it or not. I would gladly pay for my "date" to get home safely.

 

We BOTH LIVE in NYC. I've also lived here my entire life. The subways have slightly more crime than they had pre-pandemic. At that point, they were the safest they'd been since the 1960s. The subways account for two percent of ALL crime in NYC. 

To wit: "Major crimes are, overall, down 72% from 1993 in Manhattan, according to his analysis of borough-level crime data. The 438 murders recorded citywide last year, moreover, are vastly less than the 2,262 recorded in 1990." 

FACT FOCUS: NYC crime is not worst ever, despite claims

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Social media users are claiming crime in New York City is the worst it’s been in a generation. But criminal...

 

Edited February 25 by KensingtonHomo

[pubic_assistance]

1 hour ago, KensingtonHomo said:

We BOTH LIVE in NYC. I've also lived here my entire life. The subways have slightly more crime than they had pre-pandemic.

 

We will agree to disagree. The thread isn't about the subway. It's about getting your hour-boy an Uber.

Whether or not stabbings are up or down from 1993 🙄..the point I am making is that the presence of mentally ill drug addicts ( who showed up in 2020 ) makes for an unpleasant and seemingly unsafe environment. I am not playing games determining my statistical chances of being attacked by one of them and I wouldn't put my new-fuck-friend through that either. Uber at night in NYC is reasonable. (Unless you're a cheap-ass who doesn't really care what happens to your date after you get-off.)

[+ KensingtonHomo]

42 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said:

We will agree to disagree. The thread isn't about the subway. It's about getting your hour-boy an Uber.

Whether or not stabbings are up or down from 1993 🙄..the point I am making is that the presence of mentally ill drug addicts ( who showed up in 2020 ) makes for an unpleasant and seemingly unsafe environment. I am not playing games determining my statistical chances of being attacked by one of them and I wouldn't put my new-fuck-friend through that either. Uber at night in NYC is reasonable. (Unless you're a cheap-ass who doesn't really care what happens to your date after you get-off.)

Since you've clearly lost the argument and been exposed as an alarmist who probably watches Fox News, you resort to personal attacks. There's no agreeing to disagree. You're incorrect on the facts by a WILD margin. We've had homeless people, some with mental health and substance abuse problems, on our trains my entire life. The fact is that violent crime had a slight uptick last year, some robberies are up - again nothing like the 90s, let alone the 70s or 80s. If this is how you feel about NYC, I suggest you move somewhere less frightening; unless your cheap ass can't afford Darien. 

[MikeBiDude]

Moderator warning….let’s get back to discussing whether or not booking an Uber for a provider is a viable practice. Enough about subways.

[jackcali]

Well, I live in NYC too, but WHEN I TRAVEL, my hires are usually outcalls to my hotel, and when I'm asked for an Uber, I might agree to reimburse them for one (and in theory for one back) depending on the fee I'm being charged.  I won't ever use my account to order an Uber for them, though. 

 

[Simon Suraci]

From a provider perspective, it’s best to give the client options than demand the client coordinate and pay for a rideshare.

1) First off, encourage the client to book me incall for a lower rate. It’s better all the way around. The client can use whatever mode of transportation he likes, and pay what he is comfortable paying, on his own time. Economy, Uber black, rent his own car, take a subway or ride a unicycle for all I care. Real talk though: in San Diego, that client is driving or being driven by someone else in a vehicle. Period.

2) Client insists on outcall. Charge the client a higher rate based on distance, time, and hard costs. For example, $30 parking in a certain downtown area, or factoring in an extra hour to deal with peak commute traffic, or factor in distance/time/gas to visit a city more than 30 miles away. Maybe I am without my Jeep for some reason and hailing my own Uber. In any case, I’m handling everything and giving the client one quote to cover all of my transportation considerations. All the client has to do is agree to the rate and anticipate my arrival time. It’s not complicated.

3) Option (not demand) to send a rideshare to my location. Clients have offered this to me in the past. In some situations it makes more sense. For example, a client wanted an outcall at his Ritz Carlton hotel a few miles away and I was parked underground in my downtown location. There was no parking available near his hotel that wasn’t valet-only or expensive self-parking. It would take more time and cost to drive and then park. It was faster for him to send an Uber. Then again, he was a trusted regular and that makes all the difference with these decisions.

[Massageguy99]

Yeah I have recently run into this and I just won't do it. I am not putting my info out there to send you a vehicle. 

 

Now if you want to take a ride and expect a higher rate due to travel I'm totally fine with that as long as it is upfront. 

 

 

[dbar123]

I prefer nice clean transactions. Cash in big bills and no Uber. My tip will more than cover any transport. I’m not paying to make my life more complicated.

[Alex93108]

I have no problem doing this in Brazil. Largely because the city is so big ( example Sao Paolo) and often the providers are coming from far places that are not safe at night . Or from the favelas in Rio to my hotel in Leblon   It’s also cheaper. 

I once had a provider ask this from me in London - I reluctantly agreed . Sorry coming from North London to RBKC is not the same kind of danger 

In the states is a flat out no . London as well 

[Monarchy79]

If I were an escort, instead of “nickel & diming” clients, I’d just factor it into my standard rate. 
 

The client wouldn’t think about it, I’d have my transportation covered, and we’d both have a seamless, smooth experience. 
 

Edited April 2 by Monarchy79

[Monarchy79]

I wanted to also make another point.

I thought of all of the other professional  services where a provider would visit a client’s home: Barbers, manicurists, nannies, plumbers, electricians, private chefs. None of them separately ask their clients to arrange them Ubers, or to cover some related transportation cost. 
 

 

[+ DynamicUno]

2 hours ago, Monarchy79 said:

I wanted to also make another point.

I thought of all of the other professional  services where a provider would visit a client’s home: Barbers, manicurists, nannies, plumbers, electricians, private chefs. None of them separately ask their clients to arrange them Ubers, or to cover some related transportation cost. 
 

 

I agree with that point.  I would expect those service providers to add an out-of-area surcharge if the have to go outside of their normal service territory, however. 

Either way, for escorts or massage, I've always understood the outcall rate to cover normal time and transportation costs, with longer distance travel requiring some negotiation.  If they're asking for you to pay for an Uber, they're separating that cost out from the outcall rate and the cost is too variable for the same length trip.

Edited April 3 by DynamicUno