For those who don’t take last minute/same day bookings:

[Jarrod_Uncut]

What do you find best conveys that and does it actually work? I know I said I’m stepping back posting new threads, but this…I feel is looked over often. 

I’ve had to turn down 2 bookings this past week because they want it too short notice. Then when attempt to reschedule, they aren’t available again for a week or never. It’s like hmm 🤔, how is it that I have to be ready right then, but they can’t make much time for me when I’m available 🤨 

And funny thing, I’m not advertising  bottom services (no diss to any but I know many need time to “prepare”) but I still find on most days I need at least 2 to 4 hours notice before I am ready to meet a client. I’m just not able to be in escort mode 24/7. Other times I either have to commute to a hotel that I booked to host, or travel across town to a client I’ve never been: which can easily add an extra hour or 2 depending how far I have to go. 
 

Some people manage to understand it and always book ahead: others will book in advance one time; but then try to do it last minute the next time. Who said anything changed 🤷🏾‍♂️ I also try to explain the “available now” green light: it doesn’t always mean available now, for me. It means I’m available to take booking requests for that day. So I just turn it on when I know I’m likely to have time to set up a booking that day. Though it still doesn’t equate to a client being ready to meet at that moment of time anyway. 

Many times I’m not able to turn down same day bookings in my area because: They either won’t be available for awhile, or just visiting for limited time. But if it’s like “now” or the oft requested mid day bookings between 1 and 3 pm: I usually can never do it unless it’s requested with notice or they are nearby. 

I know there’s reasons why some clients have to book short notice; but this is more about avoiding having to do that if possible.

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[Jamie21]

I don’t take any booking that is at short notice. Too bad if they miss out, it’s their problem not mine. I get clients who ask 4 or 5 times “hey are you available now / in the next hour or whatever” and each time I have to say “no sorry, it’s best to book in advance if possible” because I’m not available. They eventually stop asking for short notice and book ahead or they go away. 

[SouthOfTheBorder]

I never try to book with short notice.  usually it’s a day or two in advance & then it’s trying to see who is really going to be available.  That presents another problem tho because some providers only want to be contacted when the client is ready to go, at that moment or same day.  So, there will always be some disconnect when contacting & trying to schedule.  
Some RM profiles have specific instructions re: required lead time & that is always appreciated. 

it really doesn’t work tho when trying to make contact & several hours go by with no acknowledgment.  At the very least there should be some text auto-reply with basic information.  The basic information would be rate incall/outcall, a general description of incall facility (neighborhood only) and general hours they work.  And super helpful if they say they return all inquiries within 1-2 hours.  There’s no reason for for several hours delay when everyone has a phone at all times. And while there may be extended appointments at times that prevent returned texts, that is not the norm. 

[Jarrod_Uncut]

20 hours ago, Jamie21 said:

I don’t take any booking that is at short notice. Too bad if they miss out, it’s their problem not mine. I get clients who ask 4 or 5 times “hey are you available now / in the next hour or whatever” and each time I have to say “no sorry, it’s best to book in advance if possible” because I’m not available. They eventually stop asking for short notice and book ahead or they go away. 

The only thing though, is it ends up being both a loss 🥺 Like the other day, if I didn’t meet a client last minute during the day, I woulda missed out on 500. Granted it’s just “money”, and this person I’ve met before and technically I was in my “available today” moment, but the time he wanted was a bit earlier than I could easily do on short notice. Which is no big deal, but I have to tell them in person: Glad you made it but I need advance notice next time because of (insert reasons why I usually need at least 2 to 4 hours minimum notice IF I can even do a same day booking at all).

And in the city I service, these guys hardly ever book in advance no matter how many times I say I have to plan ahead. It seems in some towns, they only want to see an escort when they are horny or on drugs. Rarely something to plan for. Or everything revolves around the wife, and they only hit me up if she gives him some last minute free time. Once or twice every few months. It’s infuriating.

 

18 hours ago, SouthOfTheBorder said:

some providers only want to be contacted when the client is ready to go, at that moment or same day.  

There’s no reason for for several hours delay when everyone has a phone at all times. And while there may be extended appointments at times that prevent returned texts, that is not the norm. 

Meh, I think majority of those (not all) may just be doing this thing in the moment…similar to how some clients do the same. Meeting only clients who are “ready to go” means waiting around for hours doing nothing. Who has time for that? I don’t…because I could wait around for hours, as I’ve done before, and nothing happens. I rather be able to get stuff done, and then arrange things with some coordination. 
 

As for delayed messages, people do that a lot too. Sometimes though it’s a matter of waiting for an update in schedule, for some people. Like example: I’ve had people reach out for a city I’m planning to visit, but unexpectedly had issue with car last week. I was able to message a couple clients letting them know I’m being delayed, but that I don’t know yet what day for sure until I get this situation handled. Then they don’t reply back, as if I knew it was going to happen and can get it handled faster than ones who have it 🤷🏾‍♂️ 

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[NyGold]

On 1/29/2024 at 8:24 PM, Jarrod_Uncut said:

The only thing though, is it ends up being both a loss 🥺 Like the other day, if I didn’t meet a client last minute during the day, I woulda missed out on 500.

Glad you are framing situations in this way now 😊

There’s not a right answer and you can choose not to take an appointment on principle or because you just aren’t able but you may miss out on the income.

tbh for me hiring is often spur of the moment and making appointments in advance wouldn’t work because I might change my mind by then and it’s not cool obviously to book knowing there’s high probability it won’t happen.

I also find many providers who say things like “don’t contact me unless you’re ready to come over right now” etc. so maybe the different attitudes appeal to different needs and all is good.

[Jarrod_Uncut]

34 minutes ago, NyGold said:

Glad you are framing situations in this way now 😊

There’s not a right answer and you can choose not to take an appointment on principle or because you just aren’t able but you may miss out on the income.

tbh for me hiring is often spur of the moment and making appointments in advance wouldn’t work because I might change my mind by then and it’s not cool obviously to book knowing there’s high probability it won’t happen.

I also find many providers who say things like “don’t contact me unless you’re ready to come over right now” etc. so maybe the different attitudes appeal to different needs and all is good.

Well like I said, some providers probably say that because they feel or have seen clients who book in advance and don’t keep the appointment. In cases like that, that’s why it’s best to include a deposit WITH the advanced booking.

Even today, I was expecting someone to book tonight at his hotel based on the request last night. I said I needed deposit by noon today to confirm. I follow back up and he’s saying he is working and then few hours later, can’t make it. But here’s the thing: he was the one who said he wanted “tomorrow night”. 
 

That’s probably why some guys don’t take advanced bookings, but I don’t think only being available “now” is the solution for everyone. Plus I’ve done the “come right now” guys, and most those fuckers don’t show up either 🤦🏾‍♂️ They lie and bullshit and will go as far as getting hotel info, or saying they are at some hotel and yet never show or include full booking details. That’s why I will never go back to not collecting deposits and definitely not going to be on call 24/7 waiting on somebody.

I had to tell a return client the other day: I texted him 2 days in a row asking him to confirm. No response. The first time he booked ahead and sent deposit. 2nd time, he texts me at almost 11 p.m. saying can I come over and fuck. I’m like, no dude. I am not available short notice. I was already on my way home from another area of town.

To see him, I would have needed to turn back around and go to the next county to meet him. I almost wanted to, but why go out of my way when he couldn’t be bothered to respond in the first damn place 🤔 

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[NyGold]

7 minutes ago, Jarrod_Uncut said:

n cases like that, that’s why it’s best to include a deposit WITH the advanced booking.

They’d get far fewer bookings. 

[Jarrod_Uncut]

2 minutes ago, NyGold said:

They’d get far fewer bookings. 

No they wouldn’t. Most everybody has an iPhone. Apple Pay. All we have to do is normalize it, and mitigate the scammers or no shows. If someone won’t book a reputable provider due to a deposit, then they probably not serious about paying at all.

[topunderachiever]

Escorts can make all the rules they want.  Set all the do's and don'ts they wish.  List all the pre-booking demands (deposits, advance notice, etc) they expect...

Until they can't afford to.  

Edited February 1 by topunderachiever

[Jarrod_Uncut]

1 hour ago, topunderachiever said:

Escorts can make all the rules they want.  Set all the do's and don'ts they wish.  List all the pre-booking demands (deposits, advance notice, etc) they expect...

Until they can't afford to.  

Well the latter can be the case regardless. I’ve had available now on and could be ready to see a client short notice and guess what? Either nobody calls or they flake. Operating out of desperation is not an ideal position to be in. Accepting whatever and everything that comes thru the phone isn’t either. 

I’ve done the no rules, no deposits/advance bookings thing before. And I still do, IF it’s very very easy and I feel like it. Like, they’re just down the street or they have a real good reason for being unable to do at least one or the other. No deposit? Okay let me verify the hotel you’re at. 

But…having guidelines and boundaries is better for longevity and sustainability. When you’ve been in it for as long as I have: you’ve just about seen it all and done it all. 

And I see it all the time. Like a friend of mine, he was about to dash out the door to meet some guy off an app he just met. I was like, hmm that seems quite last minute. Sure enough, other dude stopped responding. Then some have the audacity to not want to exchange numbers. 
 

Every time I have allowed myself to meet someone like that, something bad happens. It’s like, they’re trying to hide something, or they are being shady and distrustful. Not necessarily clients per say, but just gay hookups in general. 

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[BostonDadType]

I spent some time on your website Jarod and I have to say all of the * and details on what has to be done BEFORE you even can have a consultation for an appointment is crazy.  If you do any of these things when someone calls you from your ad - then no wonder you're getting no appointments.   You may want to rethink your business strategy?   I hire a great deal in cities around the world - and 60 seconds on your site would make me run like hell.

*Calls or Texts after midnight, while commuting between cities, holidays or times like Saturday night/Sunday afternoon may receive a text notifying that a consultation is requested. These tend to be "reserved" times for me. You may also text with your Venmo, Apple or Cash App # and I'll send a $25 request. For cash only, I can text a bar-code to deposit cash at any Walgreen/CVS or similar store.

 Start here to request your desired experience. **NOTE ON CONFIRMING A VISIT: Deposits are asked for most appointments, to ensure the time/expenses I spend to travel or host bookings, is confirmed.  To Request A Same or Next Day In-Call (me hosting):  Please ask to do an instant pay Phone App option to confirm (Venmo, Cash App, etc.) Deposits are included in the listed price. If I'm commuting to your city on a special visit out-call, or booking a place to host for an individual visit in certain locations: Sessions may need 75 minutes minimum or confirm added to session, to offset time/rented studio.

Scroll Below For Complete List Of Sessions. Read my Drop-Off/Cancellation for alternate deposit options: 

 

[jmichaeliii]

The whole scheduling thing should be just upfront and if clients are Ok with it, fine if not move to someone else.  I have run into the scenario many times where providers will only take same day bookings.  I did it once, got flaked on so never again.  Because the same day only guy flat out told me no, it was too late to book someone who wants advance notice.  It is the only day I had on my trip to do something, so I was kind of pissed.  The part that really stoked me was the same day guy that flaked had Available Now as his status all day, so what gives?

Now I just use my gut feel from the first response I get from a provider.  If he is willing to work with my timeframe and need to book in advance, it's all good.  If not, next....

[jeezifonly]

I take cues from text in the ad.

If a provider has recurring misunderstanding from interested parties, the limitations of notice can be easily laid out. (Also understand that Available Now contradicts “book in advance”)

if there’s nothing in the ad about advance booking, I text with intro, and ask about 24hrs ahead. We go from there.
 

Jarrod, just be clear in the ad. Don’t ask us to read a separate brochure for pre-qualification. Pick a minimum amount of notice, post it, and stick to it. 

[+ DrownedBoy]

The best way to get a "last minute" escort is to find a local regular. Once you've established trust and familiarity, it's a lot easy for the provider to come.

[Jarrod_Uncut]

On 2/1/2024 at 1:12 PM, BostonDadType said:

I spent some time on your website Jarod and I have to say all of the * and details on what has to be done BEFORE you even can have a consultation for an appointment is crazy.  If you do any of these things when someone calls you from your ad - then no wonder you're getting no appointments.   You may want to rethink your business strategy?   I hire a great deal in cities around the world - and 60 seconds on your site would make me run like hell.

 

 

I just wanted to clarify: I never said or implied I’m getting no appointments. My website has been up now going on 2 years. It has made a difference in my life for the better. Prior to that, I was the one going crazy.
 

Now, in no attempt to “disregard” your advice: However, I still feel it’s best to state how I prefer to do things. Yes, a consultation of $25 I feel is reasonable, and many clients have sent one. I think too many times, especially at the start of our career: we like to sound fun and bubbly and talk about how hot and fun we are. That’s great to do on the ads. But, we also get limited real estate to mention  everything. There’s a not a lot character count on sites like Adam and RentMen. And I’d say majority of the times: people don’t read the ads and it’s evident when I allow my number to be displayed: they contact asking for rates. Even though the link to my site is there in my ad.

Also the paragraphs you quoted are spread out over different pages. Not all in the same page. I  make updates to my website every so often, and try to make it easy and quick to read without leaving out important details. I know it’s not state of the art but, it’s from professional templates that I took the time to modify and edit to my desires. 

I won’t say names, but just last month I had the assistant of a musician who booked me for his client and went to my website. So obviously I’m doing something right 🤷🏾‍♂️ 

On 2/1/2024 at 4:40 PM, jeezifonly said:

I take cues from text in the ad.

If a provider has recurring misunderstanding from interested parties, the limitations of notice can be easily laid out. (Also understand that Available Now contradicts “book in advance”)

if there’s nothing in the ad about advance booking, I text with intro, and ask about 24hrs ahead. We go from there.
 

Jarrod, just be clear in the ad. Don’t ask us to read a separate brochure for pre-qualification. Pick a minimum amount of notice, post it, and stick to it. 

I get that, but like I said: people don’t read ads. When I relied on that, I couldn’t get everything I wanted to say. RentMen cuts the profile writing off at a certain point…which requires clients to click anyway.

Also the “available now” green light will have people in any city I’m advertised in thinking I’m available Now. Then you have to click see more to view the rest. So I try to put what I can that is most important, while still including a little bit of enticing details. However if people are using Rent.Men, you’ll see it’s more laid out. 

 

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[Jarrod_Uncut]

13 hours ago, BostonDadType said:

If you do any of these things when someone calls you from your ad - then no wonder you're getting no appointments.  

I just want to readdress this line again. Let’s not go there with the assumptions about why someone is or isn’t getting appointments. I’ve discussed this in full many times across the board. It often has way more to do than just a website and deposit. 
 

Like I’ve said, things are in a weird place in a different time right now. Years ago, when I started: I used to be able to get guys to book me left and right, and all I had was a grainy webcam photo and didn’t use paid sites until a few months in. I was just getting started during the hayday period for gay escorting sites. 
 

Things are different now. My location has changed, websites have changed, rates and economy have changed. I also live in a  conservative area: not to rehash the same old topic but, lot of guys here are either low budget and don’t want to pay, or they only want to patronize a certain “type”. I won’t throw race in there, but it’s often a factor. All I mainly see traveling here are White and Latino escorts. I believe the Black and “non-White/Latin”  escorts here are working with a very limited pool of clients. THAT is why I don’t have as many appointments as I want. Not because of having a website. Let’s just clarify that.
 

I’ve seen first hand how things go. It doesn’t matter if I was “available now” and charging $100. Or nothing at all. Some areas, the gay scene treats escorts with no respect or regard. They don’t want to pay, they just want free free free. I see it all the time in my local area. I have to regularly “coax” guys into booking, even when they say dismissive things about sex workers.
 

Like I said: I’ve done the easy stuff and it didn’t work because people took advantage and took for granted. Now I have to do things differently, and anyone who “runs” probably would do that even if I did make it easy.

 

Edited February 2 by Jarrod_Uncut

[+ DrownedBoy]

Jarrod comes from Harry Truman's hometown. Why am I not surprised?

[Jarrod_Uncut]

1 hour ago, DrownedBoy said:

Jarrod comes from Harry Truman's hometown. Why am I not surprised?

Let’s be clear; I am not native of this area. And the only reason I’m even here is due to extenuating circumstances. If it were any other city: I would not be making repeat visits. Some markets get very limited visits from me. I just don’t deal with certain cities.
 

However  It’s just where one of the markets I service, and due to the above mentioned issues: I try to travel frequently….

Edited February 3 by Jarrod_Uncut

[LookingAround]

You may want to heed some of this advice and take input Jarrod. You have so many posts about why are you not getting enough business. When I see a post like that even without looking at who the author is I know it’s one of yours.  Without getting defensive, you might take the feedback as I think it was meant to be helpful. 

[Jarrod_Uncut]

On 2/6/2024 at 9:25 PM, LookingAround said:

You may want to heed some of this advice and take input Jarrod. You have so many posts about why are you not getting enough business. When I see a post like that even without looking at who the author is I know it’s one of yours.  Without getting defensive, you might take the feedback as I think it was meant to be helpful. 

Again, it’s not that I’m not taking the advice. However I also have the option to reply back if I feel something doesn’t accurately describe a situation.

Some of you need to stop with the “I need to listen” commands. The way it comes off is like you are my superiors. Just because someone makes a statement about something, doesn’t mean I have no say in disagreeing with it. And yes if someone lies/exaggerates and says I’m not getting any business, then yes I reserve the right to correct them. 

And once again, if you read the situations I describe objectively: you’ll see it’s not just me or what I am or not doing. It’s a bigger picture. There’s other people saying similar elsewhere in the internet space:

and then another:

I think what you and some others need to do: is stop being so critical and act like I’m the problem for every issue I bring up. If you not coming with any specific advice to the topic (e.g. tell guys you charge an extra $100 for same day bookings), and only coming here to try and put me in my place: then don’t expect me to just sit back and “take it” without no say on anything☝

 

 

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[BostonDadType]

4 hours ago, Jarrod_Uncut said:

is stop being so critical and act like I’m the problem for every issue I bring up

this is exactly the issue - EVERY post you make is a complaint and/or problem or BOTH - perhaps if you were just a little more positive on here in particular and in life in general people (and clients) might respond in a more positive way.

[marylander1940]

On 2/1/2024 at 12:39 PM, topunderachiever said:

Escorts can make all the rules they want.  Set all the do's and don'ts they wish.  List all the pre-booking demands (deposits, advance notice, etc) they expect...

Until they can't afford to.  

Agreed!

if someone wants now/soon and you're free... why not taking the money?

Besides some guys schedule in advance and later have to cancel because something came up. 

 

[Jarrod_Uncut]

3 hours ago, BostonDadType said:

this is exactly the issue - EVERY post you make is a complaint and/or problem or BOTH - perhaps if you were just a little more positive on here in particular and in life in general people (and clients) might respond in a more positive way.

No it’s not, you’re just focusing on the neg click bait stuff…but I say plenty of positive and encouraging things throughout the board. You are having a problem, with a discussion and then have the audacity to make up a bold face lie saying “no wonder you get no clients”.…who the hell told you that?

And you also erroneously assume that I can control client’s erratic behavior and conversations, based on a response: when many times they are the ones creating the drama 90% of the time. For example, just yesterday I had to read this bullshit from 2 separate clients:

Client A:

 

I had to bite my tongue SOOOOOO HARD in this exchange. In fact I wrote him a couple texts (one telling him to fuck off and that I’m reporting his screenname to RM for harassment) and deleted it, so tried as hard as possible to be professional. Because in my town, few of the clients are ever serious…and I have to deal with the bullshit until I leave town.
 

We ended up meeting up, but guess what? He was trying to get me to take the condom off. And I was like NOPE, if you don’t believe I’m clean then it’s best to play safe. How the fuck??? lol

And then here, my regular male “Karen” client who was on his THIRD cancellation since I took him off my blocked list couple weeks ago: 

Now the guy above: I’ve had the discussion with him last time in person: he lives an hour away from me, and I can’t always drop everything to meet him right away. He also had the chance to meet me Saturday, and we HAD A TIME in mind, and he cancelled on that because he was in a “funky mood”. 
 

This mother fucker constantly changes his tune, yet then expects me to be attentive and responsive everytime he perks into the mood. I swear he’s bipolar or manic depressive or something. But after that, I told him I’m not available to come to his house next time because this been the THIRD TIME he’s invited me over and cancelled. This mofo has the nerve to reply back:

 

I think you, @BostonDadType need to stop living in this denial that certain providers don’t have to deal with A LOT of annoying man child behavior on a regular basis. You can’t seem to wrap your head around it because, you think positivity breeds positivity. Not necessarily in all cases. And the only reason I give these people half a time of day is because, I have a very limited pool of clients to work with in my area. 9/10 are flakes, low ballers, only want to pay crack whore rates…or like someone said previously: 1999 rates 😆 They think $150 should get full service bareback and massage 🤦🏾‍♂️ 

2 hours ago, marylander1940 said:

Agreed!

if someone wants now/soon and you're free... why not taking the money?

Besides some guys schedule in advance and later have to cancel because something came up. 

 

That’s the problem: I’m NOT always free. And also, you’re under the impression that money can be used to bypass a person’s boundaries. 
 

I just had a conversation with someone earlier on this exact subject: I don’t let clients book me last minute or same day all the time because…I may have OTHER OBLIGATIONS in place. I can’t break those obligations on the basis of money. I used to do it, and I’ve lost friends, potential long term lovers, etc. So now, I rarely do it unless I literally am just in a hotel and ready.

And like I’ve told you and the whole forum a MILLION TIMES: every fucking time I do that, nobody calls. EVER. Nobody is ever ready at the same damn time. That’s why things need to be arranged ahead of time. I have stayed in hotel after hotel, apartment after apartment, air bnb after air bnb “available now” and no client is available until I decide to make plans. Instead of playing that game, I rather just make people book in advance.
 

The “ready now let’s fuck” for gay sex in 5 minutes notice,  is something that was created years ago in public parks and bath houses. People need to pull their heads out their ass and realize not every gay man, whether free or for pay, wants to connect like that anymore. If guys can plan everything else in their life, for everybody else, then they should be able to do it with hookups too. I don’t want to hear excuses or devils advocates. 

And starting today, I’m charging extra $25 for same day appointments, PERIOD!

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[marylander1940]

@Jarrod_Uncut

It was clear he was talking himself out loud into NOT hiring you!

I'm surprised he actually showed up!

 

 

[Jarrod_Uncut]

1 hour ago, marylander1940 said:

@Jarrod_Uncut

 

It was clear he was talking himself out loud into NOT hiring you!

I'm surprised he actually showed up!

 

 

I was so ready to block him but, I was like: let me respond educatedly instead and flip the paradigm.

I showed up, but he was a Royal bitch the whole process. At one point rushing me to get there by a certain time when he had no plans after the session, despite HIM dragging the whole process out longer than what was needed 🤦🏾‍♂️ 

When I visit cities with lots of SERIOUS non-complicated clients, I don’t give bullshit the time of day. They will be erased and replaced immediately.

Sometimes I don’t see how people carry a full time job and deal with these people. It would be too much. Unless, those with regular jobs are more quick to block and ignore people like that if the money is just supplementary

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