Worst cities to escort

[marylander1940]

On 9/27/2023 at 8:35 PM, socurious said:

I spent 3 days in Montreal and couldn't book anything. The three "clients" I talked to before traveling there were all flakes. People in Quebec don't seem to be into hiring escorts it seems. They thought my prices were too high. Most wanted to pay the equivalent to 120-150 American dollars when I was charging 250. Also, so many flakes stealing my energy and time to fulfill their fantasy sexting me. It's becoming annoying. At the end I couldn't even cover my spendings in Canadá during my trip. Now I'm in debt. 

American escorts DON'T travel to Canada unless invited for an overnight or a long trip...

Canadian escorts love coming here, we're a wealthier country and their job is paid way better than back home. 

Considering all the threads you have started I wish you had asked our opinion about an escort based in the USA going to Canada.

 

Edited September 30, 2023 by marylander1940

[Luv2play]

1 hour ago, marylander1940 said:

American escorts DON'T travel to Canada unless invited for an overnight or a long trip...

Canadian escorts love coming here, we're a wealthier country and their job is paid way better than back home. 

Considering all the threads you have started I wish you had asked our opinion about an escort based in the USA going to Canada.

 

That's actually not true. American escorts travel to Montreal or Toronto on a regular basis. Not a lot but in the good weather excluding Nov to April you will find some listed in RM every month. There are several now.

I hire on a regular basis in these two markets and include American offerings when they interest me.

I pay a premium for these guys as they are expecting rates similar to what they earn in the States expressed in Canadian dollars. JJ Knight is coming to Toronto in a couple of weeks and I have a date set up with him. I didn't fly him in. 

Another US escort is in Montreal this weekend but I cancelled our date because I have a mild cold and didn't want to spread my germs.

Oh and Cade Maddox was in Montreal for a week a week ago. I didn't bother contacting him because his rates were set on RM at $1000 an hour and $8000 overnight. Rates can be shown on RM here which many escorts take advantage of, I would say half and half. The others post "ask".

Edited October 1, 2023 by Luv2play

[Luv2play]

I just did a cursory check and MagicMike is coming to Montreal next week. He's listed on RM. There are other escorts coming in the next months including from Europe. Montreal is a good market for escorts from anywhere.

There is a hungry clientele eager for new talent to augment the local offerings. I've been hiring for years in this market and even the pandemic didn't slow things too much after the lockdowns were lifted.

 

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Luv2play said:

I just did a cursory check and MagicMike is coming to Montreal next week. He's listed on RM. There are other escorts coming in the next months including from Europe. Montreal is a good market for escorts from anywhere.

There is a hungry clientele eager for new talent to augment the local offerings. I've been hiring for years in this market and even the pandemic didn't slow things too much after the lockdowns were lifted.

 

That's always been my understanding regarding the willing and eager market of Montreal. Pity I've not visited. 

[Luv2play]

One thing I'm not clear on is whether the OP has good reviews on his RM ad. If not the chances of getting hired decline drastically. 

[socurious]

2 hours ago, marylander1940 said:

American escorts DON'T travel to Canada unless invited for an overnight or a long trip...

Canadian escorts love coming here, we're a wealthier country and their job is paid way better than back home. 

Considering all the threads you have started I wish you had asked our opinion about an escort based in the USA going to Canada.

 

I love Montreal. Also, it's so close to where I live. Remember I also had three bookings there. Those "clients" played me though. All of them dissappeared when I was there. 

[socurious]

16 minutes ago, Luv2play said:

One thing I'm not clear on is whether the OP has good reviews on his RM ad. If not the chances of getting hired decline drastically. 

I have 0 reviews so far. 

[Luv2play]

I think it is necessary for an American escort visiting Canada to have a track record in terms of reviews before serious Canadian clients will hire him.

[marylander1940]

7 minutes ago, socurious said:

I love Montreal. Also, it's so close to where I live. Remember I also had three bookings there. Those "clients" played me though. All of them dissappeared when I was there. 

You need to have more than three scheduled appointments before going to a place.

[marylander1940]

50 minutes ago, Luv2play said:

That's actually not true. American escorts travel to Montreal or Toronto on a regular basis. Not a lot but in the good weather excluding Nov to April you will find some listed in RM every month. There are several now.

I hire on a regular basis in these two markets and include American offerings when they interest me.

I pay a premium for these guys as they are expecting rates similar to what they earn in the States expressed in Canadian dollars. JJ Knight is coming to Toronto in a couple of weeks and I have a date set up with him. I didn't fly him in. 

Another US escort is in Montreal this weekend but I cancelled our date because I have a mild cold and didn't want to spread my germs.

Oh and Cade Maddox was in Montreal for a week a week ago. I didn't bother contacting him because his rates were set on RM at $1000 an hour and $8000 overnight. Rates can be shown on RM here which many escorts take advantage of, I would say half and half. The others post "ask".

When things are legal they're usually cheaper.

Most Canadian clients don't want to pay in Canada American rates. It's a fact!!

All the American escorts I know who went to Canada regretted it.

You mentioned 2 worldwide known pornstars, they can go wherever they want to for shows, clients, etc.

[Luv2play]

2 minutes ago, marylander1940 said:

I'll keep you in mind next time someone says RM reviews are worthless.

 

What’s worthless is someone opining that RM reviews are worthless.

[marylander1940]

Just now, Luv2play said:

What’s worthless is someone opining that RM reviews are worthless.

I'll keep you in mind next time the subject of validity of RM reviews comes up.

I deleted the post because I don't want to drag this into another discussion 

Back to subject I strongly recommend American escorts not to go to Canada unless they find some guys who are willing to pay twice the local rate.

[Luv2play]

Another factor to consider is that travelling US escorts in Canada gain the advantage of the exchange rate when they stay at hotels, eat at restaurants or consume other priced in Canada goods or services. So even if they accept Canadian rates of say $300 which is very typical, they are getting the same value to purchase as Canadian escorts enjoy. 
Where the difference lies is in what they get to take home. That $300 in Canadian funds is worth 25 percent less when they convert it into US dollars.

[Rudynate]

21 hours ago, Vin_Marco said:

Mike, for whatever it's worth I didn't adjust my rates for Canada when I was in Canada and nobody made a fuss or moaned about it. Canadians that visit Palm Springs every year also don't fuss or moan about my fees. 

Why would you adjust your rates for a Canadian market?  If you are going there to work, and you lowered your rate to attract Canadians who were used to a lower rate, going to Canada to work wouldn't make much sense business-wise.  Better to stay home in a market that will pay the rate you are accustomed to.  OTOH if you were going to Canada mostly for pleasure and wanted to see a few clients to defray some of your travel cost, that would make sense.  

[Guest]

36 minutes ago, Rudynate said:

Why would you adjust your rates for a Canadian market?  If you are going there to work, and you lowered your rate to attract Canadians who were used to a lower rate, going to Canada to work wouldn't make much sense business-wise.  Better to stay home in a market that will pay the rate you are accustomed to.  OTOH if you were going to Canada mostly for pleasure and wanted to see a few clients to defray some of your travel cost, that would make sense.  

I didn't adjust ANYTHING. I charged in Canada what I charge here in the states. The trip made PERFECT sense. Someone paid my flight to and from and not one single person flaked, EVERYONE showed up AFTER I was compensated for 3 night overnight rate. My client even paid for my hotel when I was no longer with him. Zero overhead, can that make more sense? He's done the same when he's flown me to the DC area. 

Edited October 1, 2023 by Vin_Marco

[marylander1940]

22 hours ago, Vin_Marco said:

Mike, for whatever it's worth I didn't adjust my rates for Canada when I was in Canada and nobody made a fuss or moaned about it. Canadians that visit Palm Springs every year also don't fuss or moan about my fees. 

You appeal to most clients but there are some who ONLY want a bodybuilder like you, or want the experience to play/admire a physique like yours. Let's face it the percentage of bodybuilders is very low in all markets; therefore, many Canadians wouldn't mind paying your American rates. I'm sure you do well in all cities! 

As handsome as @socurious is there are many guys with similar stats, body type, etc. 

Edited October 1, 2023 by marylander1940

[Guest]

Just now, marylander1940 said:

You appeal to most clients but there are some who ONLY want a bodybuilder like you, or want the experience to play/admire a physique like yours. Let's face it the percentage of bodybuilders is very low in all markets; therefore, many Canadians wouldn't mind paying your American rates. I'm sure you do well in all cities! 

Thank you @marylander1940 I appreciate that. I might add that I found Torronto to be extremely diverse, clean and with a population that kept commitments, how could I have not loved Torronto? 

[Rudynate]

1 hour ago, Vin_Marco said:

I didn't adjust ANYTHING. I charged in Canada what I charge here in the states. The trip made PERFECT sense. Someone paid my flight to and from and not one single person flaked, EVERYONE showed up AFTER I was compensated for 3 night overnight rate. My client even paid for my hotel when I was no longer with him. Zero overhead, can that make more sense? He's done the same when he's flown me to the DC area. 

A zero-overhead business - nothing better than that.

[Jarrod_Uncut]

22 hours ago, nate_sf said:

I've found this too, I do well in the secondary cities.

It can be a bruise to one's ego if you ask whether they are hiring you because they're really into you, or are they just hiring because there are few local choices. But in the end, who cares! The important thing is that you're being hired.

I agree with the others that you need to advertise further in advance to get the right exposure. Try two or even three weeks in advance. You need to give people a bit of time to mull things over.

 

Well in my case, I never ask lol. But I think the thing with the bigger markets is; before you get there it’s already plenty of providers who may have regulars or been seen by the client before one gets a chance to. 
 

That’s not to say I avoid big markets entirely or don’t meet anyone when I go: but I know it could take longer to find a client, and if visiting only a couple or so days that might not be enough time.

Thats why San Diego earlier this year was the first time I had more than 1 client. Previous trips I had 0 or only 1. But when I got to stay for 2-3 weeks: I met up with 4. 

That’s why I’d see how @Vin_Marco is at advantage by default because: if you can live around those big markets regularly and catch the locals and travelers coming in: you’re set for the right direction. 
 

Issue is, not everyone has the stepping stone to be able to set up shop in a major city. 

On 9/30/2023 at 11:30 AM, Vin_Marco said:

                                * C H I C A G O * 

I'm interested in hearing about people's experience with the Windy City .... I have quite an interesting take  and experience with  the city that has been fighting with Houston Texas as the nations 3rd largest city.

I have mixed experiences. Where I live part time is only a few hours from the area. I haven’t been out there now in a couple years. It’s another crowded market with lots of traffic and also expensive overheads so: I tend to only go once in a blue.

18 hours ago, DrownedBoy said:

I had a question for providers here:

Is it common to travel to cities that don't have many RM listed, and charge higher prices, to take advantage of locals?

I found a guy in rural Wisconsin with 2 reviews, and he wanted 1K for 2 hours. I pointed out how high that was, and he told me to "take it or leave it." I laughed at him and left it.

Not common, not for me at least. But I may could see a couple extra $$$ for travel/hosting. But having been to rural Wisconsin regularly over the years: people don’t have the money out there to pay that much for couple hours. For an overnight, potentially. 

 

17 hours ago, marylander1940 said:

American escorts DON'T travel to Canada unless invited for an overnight or a long trip...

Canadian escorts love coming here, we're a wealthier country and their job is paid way better than back home. 

Considering all the threads you have started I wish you had asked our opinion about an escort based in the USA going to Canada.

 

I think a lot of people would go to Vancouver and Toronto. There’s also Calgary and Edmonton but, I don’t know if anyone personally who’s made it up there. 

[Guest]

Another thing to consider is that different people do better than others in different cities for whatever reason.... I know guys who do so well in the small cities that I would probably never consider visiting ( I defo see the logic in visiting the road less traveled though ) People have always said Honolulu is a tough market... I know a provider who is always in shape and delivers but reports counting crickets 🦗 there.  I have always stayed busy in Honolulu, pre-covid I'd visit at least 3 times a year ( not a long flight ✈️ for me thank goodness 😅 ) between some tourists, and mostly locals, I stayed busy all week. It's just different for everyone. 

[nate_sf]

36 minutes ago, Jarrod_Uncut said:

Well in my case, I never ask lol.

Lol, yes I should have said "if one asks oneself." Though one of my Baltimore clients did mention that not a lot of guys come through there, but he also seemed to be into it so I didn't think too hard about it.

Also your point earlier about a city being good or bad the first time, and the opposite the next time rings true. I used to totally bomb in LA, to the point I said never again. But more recently when I've visited it's been decent. Either I've changed or LA has changed, or it's just luck of the draw.

[Jarrod_Uncut]

13 minutes ago, Vin_Marco said:

Another thing to consider is that different people do better than others in different cities for whatever reason.... I know guys who do so well in the small cities that I would probably never consider visiting ( I defo see the logic in visiting the road less traveled though ) People have always said Honolulu is a tough market... I know a provider who is always in shape and delivers but reports counting crickets 🦗 there.  I have always stayed busy in Honolulu, pre-covid I'd visit at least 3 times a year ( not a long flight ✈️ for me thank goodness 😅 ) between some tourists, and mostly locals, I stayed busy all week. It's just different for everyone. 

Good point, and also just to quote @marylander1940: by no means is Vin’s body not like one of the best out there: but, you don’t just have to be a bodybuilder to see an advantage. Even just having a fit gym body should still catapult someone into where they want to be.

I was just talking to a client last night, he was explaining how the regional gays are all super closeted and religious and only want to fuck twink boy types under 25. So: definitely not the market I fall under. So by no means does that mean someone should “get outta the business”. But moreso, get into a market that’s more productive.

[Guest]

45 minutes ago, Jarrod_Uncut said:

ou don’t just have to be a bodybuilder to see an advantage. Even just having a fit gym body should still catapult someone into where they want to be.

You are spot on there. I know I'm not for everyone, I have found my niche inside of a niche and I'm happy and grateful as a result. Sometimes being more muscular and looking like a bodybuilder can work against people..... prospective clients might be inclined to assume you don't do much.... stand and pose,  which DEFINITELY isn't the case for me lol 😂 I've known guys who have physiques like you described @Jarrod_Uncut who were always busy and made unholy amounts of money. The pie 🥧 is big enough for EVERYONE... all types and sizes too 😜

Edited October 1, 2023 by Vin_Marco

[Rudynate]

4 hours ago, Vin_Marco said:

 stand and pose

I suspect there's a market for that too.  

[Jarrod_Uncut]

On 10/1/2023 at 5:34 PM, Rudynate said:

I suspect there's a market for that too.  

I actually have a handful of videos from a large collection that a client passed on: and a couple of them are not “porn”, but of  muscular 🏋dudes just showing off at various events and such.

and I know for sure, clients get quite tantalized when I flex a 💪🏾 here and there 😆 

Edited October 4, 2023 by Jarrod_Uncut