Stalking

[CuriousByNature]

1 hour ago, JTtorretto said:

"Fake warnings" ... lmfao ...

EXTREMELY INACCURATE to claim that an escort will post "fake negative comments" unless they were actually provoked to do so.   
 

If those escorts (which posted about you) had a pleasant experience, they would not have needed to post a warning to others.  

Everyone's human.  There are those who might post negative comments for reasons other than an objective assessment of the situation.  A client or provider could have a bee in their bonnet about something that would not bother most reasonable observers, and decide to post negatively to teach the person they are upset with a lesson.  So, it isn't necessarily that anyone is posting 'fake warnings' - it could be that people are posting warnings that they believe are justified from their personal and subjective understanding, but in reality, a warning may not be objectively warranted.  IMHO it's a matter of perspective, and unfortunately a lot of damage to the reputations of both providers and clients can result.

[samhexum]

Thank god I'm poor and don't have to deal with all this mishegos.

DEFINITIONS

• n. "Foolishness, nonsense, craziness." 

EXAMPLE SENTENCES

• "I don't want to get involved in their mishegos."

LANGUAGES OF ORIGIN

• Yiddish

[SouthOfTheBorder]

17 hours ago, JTtorretto said:

This is a fairly typical scam that a novice escort will fall victim to when first starting out. Thats why experienced, professional escorts tend to never agree to meet someone using a fake phone number.

I have no doubt that providers getting scammed by clients is a reoccurring problem.

as mentioned previously, when I briefly used a burner number the call back ratio by experienced providers was almost zero.  I don’t know how they could ID a burner number, but they were able to do it.  Less experienced providers were the ones responding to the burner number. 

I have a lot of empathy for providers, knowing how they get so many inquiries with no intention to hire.  Then, an actual appointment and more BS from the client.  The discussions here tend to be client focused and about providers pulling scams.  I’ll bet it’s at least an equal ratio with clients scamming providers. 

And back to the original topic - I’ll bet plenty of providers get stalked by clients too

 

[+ The Big Guy]

My experience wit burner numbers is that when using one of the reverse number ID services, no information is available.   So I think that is why I sometimes get the no response from a provider.  Unless I am missing something is there another way to tell if it’s a burner number?  Also, I still tend to get a pretty good percentage of answered messages when using my burner number. I will probably continue using it for now.  

[NJF]

1 hour ago, The Big Guy said:

My experience wit burner numbers is that when using one of the reverse number ID services, no information is available.   So I think that is why I sometimes get the no response from a provider.  Unless I am missing something is there another way to tell if it’s a burner number?  Also, I still tend to get a pretty good percentage of answered messages when using my burner number. I will probably continue using it for now.  

I vaguely remember that there is a website that will tell you which company provides cellular service to a cell phone number. A burner number will be identified by the company providing service. So a google number will be clearly identified as a google voice number.

[DWnyc]

Just to point out  … it’s not hard to get a second “proper” (ie non-burner) cellphone number with one of the big networks that also maintains anonymity (eg 30 prepaid with T Mobile or AT&T).

Anyone looking to scam will likely be aware of all of this.So where is the “protection” for those who insist on only non-burner interaction?

Most using burners are just trying to keep a low profile while pursuing a hobby that is at best socially frowned upon and at worst can get them into legal trouble. 

I guarantee to those providers who think they’re one step ahead of technology and client psychology that many of the numbers they think are “real” are in fact not the ones clients use in their real lives. 

Providers - particularly those in the US given the legal situation - are not exactly in a position to broadcast their full details without risk either - and many likely use (or should use) burners or these 2nd SIM services to avoid being traceable on matters related to the hobby. 

[JTtorretto]

10 hours ago, DWnyc said:

Just to point out  … it’s not hard to get a second “proper” (ie non-burner) cellphone number with one of the big networks that also maintains anonymity (eg 30 prepaid with T Mobile or AT&T).

Anyone looking to scam will likely be aware of all of this.So where is the “protection” for those who insist on only non-burner interaction?

Most using burners are just trying to keep a low profile while pursuing a hobby that is at best socially frowned upon and at worst can get them into legal trouble. 

I guarantee to those providers who think they’re one step ahead of technology and client psychology that many of the numbers they think are “real” are in fact not the ones clients use in their real lives. 

Providers - particularly those in the US given the legal situation - are not exactly in a position to broadcast their full details without risk either - and many likely use (or should use) burners or these 2nd SIM services to avoid being traceable on matters related to the hobby. 

When was the last time you heard of an escort being arrested for prostitution?  Or vice versa / a client for soliciting prostitution?  
 

New York City officially announced YEARS ago that they were no longer arresting "sex workers".  
Many other places have followed this example but unofficially.  
 

Clearly, some clients fetishize the "illegality" of participating in this realm however no one Ive ever known has been arrested and it's extremely unlikely. 

[JTtorretto]

iphone text messages received on my iphone arrive as blue text.  
 

and texts that I receive which are green are automatically highly suspect as 85% of the time its an immediate indication that someone is using a burner number and wasting my time. 

90-95% of my clients [and data reflects] majority of Americans who earn over $125,000 a year ALSO are iphone users.   

An actual Burner phone with a real phone number, tend to be androids so that means green text so still a pass for me and other escorts I know who've learned the awesome filtering apple does automatically for us.

 

 

[solacesoul]

42 minutes ago, JTtorretto said:

When was the last time you heard of an escort being arrested for prostitution?  Or vice versa / a client for soliciting prostitution?  
 

New York City officially announced YEARS ago that they were no longer arresting "sex workers".  
Many other places have followed this example but unofficially.  

It’s now (new law as of 2021) a felony in the State of Texas — the second most populous state in the USA — to engage or offer to engage in an act of prostitution. First-time is 2 years in jail and a $10,000 fine. Second time is a third-degree felony with even harsher penalties.

 

[NJF]

29 minutes ago, solacesoul said:

It’s now (new law as of 2021) a felony in the State of Texas — the second most populous state in the USA — to engage or offer to engage in an act of prostitution. First-time is 2 years in jail and a $10,000 fine. Second time is a third-degree felony with even harsher penalties.

 

I knew someone who was arrested in Austin for prostitution even before the new law in Texas. He just finished his probation last year.

[JTtorretto]

That is a political bullet point •
 

how many have been arrested ?  I just did a search and could not find a single instance in Texas. [excluding one instance involving the sex trafficking of an underage mexican immigrant].  Ultimately, sex trafficking is and should be their focus. 
 

 

 

[JTtorretto]

Green texts 👎🏻

Blue texts 👍🏻

[+ DynamicUno]

I use a Pixel phone as my daily driver, as I like Android and have been using it for years.  I have never used an iPhone for my personal phone.  I've had my number since the fllipphone days, it was my first cellphone number.  It's not a burner. 

If a provider refuses to respond to my contact because the color of the bubble is "wrong", then they're a fucking idiot and not worth my time or money.

 

[JTtorretto]

That’s nice …. 
 

providers attempting to screen potential “bad clients” are “fucking idiots” .  

[solacesoul]

1 hour ago, JTtorretto said:

That is a political bullet point •
 

how many have been arrested ?  I just did a search and could not find a single instance in Texas. [excluding one instance involving the sex trafficking of an underage mexican immigrant].  Ultimately, sex trafficking is and should be their focus. 
 

 

 

Perhaps your Google Search is broken?

Prosecutors are already being overzealous with the new felony prostitution law in Texas, in spite of earlier legislative claims that the law was designed only to curb and fight sex trafficking.

Earlier this year, the Department of Homeland Security had made almost four dozen (46) arrests for felony sex trafficking in North Texas.  However, it was soon discovered that those arrested on federal felony charges as traffickers were actually individuals who thought they were dealing with sex workers (prostitutes) for consensual sex.  They were “johns” looking for a “date,” and not players in the business of trafficking people.

Another bogus 'sex trafficking sting' led by Homeland Security agents

REASON.COM

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The Department of Homeland Security is playing vice cop, again, while pretending that the agency...

 

[JTtorretto]

3 hours ago, solacesoul said:

Perhaps your Google Search is broken?

Prosecutors are already being overzealous with the new felony prostitution law in Texas, in spite of earlier legislative claims that the law was designed only to curb and fight sex trafficking.

Earlier this year, the Department of Homeland Security had made almost four dozen (46) arrests for felony sex trafficking in North Texas.  However, it was soon discovered that those arrested on federal felony charges as traffickers were actually individuals who thought they were dealing with sex workers (prostitutes) for consensual sex.  They were “johns” looking for a “date,” and not players in the business of trafficking people.

Another bogus 'sex trafficking sting' led by Homeland Security agents

REASON.COM

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The Department of Homeland Security is playing vice cop, again, while pretending that the agency...

 

Are you a STRAIGHT  man looking to hire an illegal immigrant mexican woman?  Picking her up off the street. 
 

They are targeting a specific niche of the massive Texas market. 

 

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If Texas was gung-ho across the board, how come they have not SHUTDOWN the escort agencies thru out the state of Texas?  
 

Because they are going after low-end offenders in the straight market involving illegal alien mexican women as a political pr stunt. 

 

I think FOX  news has successfully spooked you 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[MikeBiDude]

4 hours ago, JTtorretto said:

providers attempting to screen potential “bad clients” are “fucking idiots” .

That's NOT what @DynamicUnosaid. Nice spin
 

[JTtorretto]

25 minutes ago, MikeBiDude said:

That's NOT what @DynamicUnosaid. Nice spin
 

He said if a provider wont meet because hes got a (shitty) pixel, hes a "fucking idiot". 
 

so thats what he said

[DWnyc]

5 hours ago, JTtorretto said:

That’s nice …. 
 

providers attempting to screen potential “bad clients” are “fucking idiots” .  

And clients exercising choice in a free market economy regarding available options, not to mention staying well clear of abrasive / unreasonable / commercially unviable / mentally unstable behavior are … ?

[JTtorretto]

1 hour ago, DWnyc said:

And clients exercising choice in a free market economy regarding available options, not to mention staying well clear of abrasive / unreasonable / commercially unviable / mentally unstable behavior are … ?

Diminishing their available options

[Vulgarii]

I always cyber stalk and investigate before responding to potential clients. With free websites and apps I can find out everything about you just using only your phone number, and your name definitely helps too. 

I tend to not meet someone if I cannot verify and screen his identity.

Sometimes I feel bad for denying a client based on disliking his annoying social media posts, but whatever.

 

It's foolish when closeted/married clients pay me electronically. A client that's well known gay conversion therapist did that. I warned him that some people are petty.

 

And I love it when a client flakes on me and I already have his wife's social media and cell phone number at my disposal. Fools!

 

So my advice is to investigate yourself online and not use anything connected to your phone number and real name. Don't have your real name on any social media accounts, and always pay with cash.

 

This is another tip that has to do with something more sinister but I doubt any of you, or most of you, will ever encounter it: make sure you flush your semen. Never leave any fluids behind because some of us will/can take it and preserve it to keep you coming back or obtain more from you. I've noticed that clients from a particular ethnic group that is aware of these witchy practices will refuse to use my towels and insist on using toilet paper and flushing it.

Edited September 3, 2023 by Vulgarii

[Bokomaru]

13 minutes ago, Vulgarii said:

And I love it when a client flakes on me and I already have his wife's social media and cell phone number at my disposal. Fools!

So you threaten to ruin the lives of clients who flake on you? Hmm… Seems a bit heavy handed. 

[+ DrownedBoy]

11 hours ago, Vulgarii said:

This is another tip that has to do with something more sinister but I doubt any of you, or most of you, will ever encounter it: make sure you flush your semen. Never leave any fluids behind because some of us will/can take it and preserve it to keep you coming back or obtain more from you. I've noticed that clients from a particular ethnic group that is aware of these witchy practices will refuse to use my towels and insist on using toilet paper and flushing it.

Holy sh!t, I looked that up, and now I realize why he was doing that!!!

[Marc in Calif]

12 hours ago, Vulgarii said:

I've noticed that clients from a particular ethnic group that is aware of these witchy practices will refuse to use my towels and insist on using toilet paper and flushing it.

Ethnic and/or racial stereotyping = claiming that members of a specific group will always do something in the same way  🙄

[solacesoul]

13 hours ago, Vulgarii said:

I always cyber stalk and investigate before responding to potential clients. With free websites and apps I can find out everything about you just using only your phone number, and your name definitely helps too. 

I tend to not meet someone if I cannot verify and screen his identity.

Sometimes I feel bad for denying a client based on disliking his annoying social media posts, but whatever.

 

It's foolish when closeted/married clients pay me electronically. A client that's well known gay conversion therapist did that. I warned him that some people are petty.

 

And I love it when a client flakes on me and I already have his wife's social media and cell phone number at my disposal. Fools!

 

So my advice is to investigate yourself online and not use anything connected to your phone number and real name. Don't have your real name on any social media accounts, and always pay with cash.

 

This is another tip that has to do with something more sinister but I doubt any of you, or most of you, will ever encounter it: make sure you flush your semen. Never leave any fluids behind because some of us will/can take it and preserve it to keep you coming back or obtain more from you. I've noticed that clients from a particular ethnic group that is aware of these witchy practices will refuse to use my towels and insist on using toilet paper and flushing it.

Considering that there are actually board members / clients here and elsewhere that doxx / investigate other board members / clients, then I suppose what you do is just as acceptable.