Provider in Houston robbed me- what to do next

[Guest]

3 hours ago, Unicorn said:

What does a teardrop tattoo mean? Easily one of the most popular prison tattoos in popular culture, the teardrop tattoo actually has a less innocent meaning behind it. The meaning of teardrop tattoos can vary depending on the geography, but they all have the same premise: it symbolizes murder. A teardrop tattoo on the face means that the person has committed murder. A teardrop outline represents attempted murder,

We just live in a much different world than we did even 10 years ago... when I was coming up tattoos on the top of the hand, neck, and face were for exactly the type of people quoted above, it was total and ultimate taboo...  just convicts and maybe some one like Lil Wayne ( a rapper ) but today I see extremely young common kids; when I say common I mean not internationally famous or wealthy kids whose appearance(s) will not have a negative impact on financial futures...

Tattoos are rampant in professional sports, many companies, corporations and retailers no longer require tattoos to be covered, not even law enforcement officers need to cover their tattoos, you can watch TV and see tattoos in COMMERCIALS, that would have never flown 10-15 years ago but because of the popularity so many entities have had to give up a lot of ground. I see it at my gym more and more all the time ( face, neck and hand tattoos ) it's a bit odd even for me... and I have tattoos lol 😂

Ive actually had 5 tattoos completely removed... ( personally for me less became more ) you can't even tell I had them; it's very expensive and a long process... my only regret was that for the most part tattoos have become so ubiquitous and that's the part I had issue with. Generally when things become more and more mainstream they tend to  no longer hold my interest.  Tattoos can be cool and they mean many different things for different people but unless you're from somewhere like Morocco ( my friends Moroccan grandmother had face tattoos )  or  the South Pacific ( the word Tattoo comes from the Polynesian word ( Sāmoa 🇼🇸 and Tahiti  🇵🇫  ) "Tatau" and also the Māori  have a long tradition of tattooing the face, getting your face tattooed is probably gonna come back and bite you, well in this case,  the face. 

[SirBillybob]

51 minutes ago, Jarrod_Uncut said:

One thing I have to quickly note on my end: there’s always two sides to every story.

In this case, evidently three sides. The 3rd party or 2nd overnight escort and the client (OP) have apparently written a review of each other with identical wording. An inexplicable 3-legged race of an arrangement, though perhaps neutrally rendered strategically to support plausible deniability of running afoul of prostitution law. Rentmen seems to be set up in an overarching way as a community of sorts, the arbitrary distinction between two membership categories potentially blurred; smart in a way, and supports Jarrod’s view of separating theft events from hookup context. One missing piece is whether the second chap could corroborate evidence of thievery, or might he worry about risk of implicating himself by getting involved. 

Edited August 20, 2023 by SirBillybob

[Jarrod_Uncut]

4 hours ago, V_Marco said:

We just live in a much different world than we did even 10 years ago... when I was coming up tattoos on the top of the hand, neck, and face were for exactly the type of people quoted above, it was total and ultimate taboo...  just convicts and maybe some one like Lil Wayne ( a rapper ) but today I see extremely young common kids; when I say common I mean not internationally famous or wealthy kids whose appearance(s) will not have a negative impact on financial futures...

Tattoos are rampant in professional sports, many companies, corporations and retailers no longer require tattoos to be covered, not even law enforcement officers need to cover their tattoos, you can watch TV and see tattoos in COMMERCIALS, that would have never flown 10-15 years ago but because of the popularity so many entities have had to give up a lot of ground. I see it at my gym more and more all the time ( face, neck and hand tattoos ) it's a bit odd even for me... and I have tattoos lol 😂

Ive actually had 5 tattoos completely removed... ( personally for me less became more ) you can't even tell I had them; it's very expensive and a long process... my only regret was that for the most part tattoos have become so ubiquitous and that's the part I had issue with. Generally when things become more and more mainstream they tend to  no longer hold my interest.  Tattoos can be cool and they mean many different things for different people but unless you're from somewhere like Morocco ( my friends Moroccan grandmother had face tattoos )  or  the South Pacific ( the word Tattoo comes from the Polynesian word ( Sāmoa 🇼🇸 and Tahiti  🇵🇫  ) "Tatau" and also the Māori  have a long tradition of tattooing the face, getting your face tattooed is probably gonna come back and bite you, well in this case,  the face. 

I think we gotta bring that tattoo thread back around lol.

But yeah overall, you’re right. I have seen “vintage” porn where there isn’t as many tattoos on the guys, as more recent titles. It’s definitely seen a lot more in the newer titles versus even the earlier 2000s. 

I feel a similar way to music and cars. I try to err on the side of ”not super common”. Not that super common/mainstream is a bad thing (in fact societies resistance to going outside of the box can make it that much harder). But, not doing so reflects a bit of originality. 
 

One thing that gets me with tattoos is, some can almost “go out of style”. I’ve heard references to “90s tattoos” and such. Like wait, if it’s permanent does it really matter tho? Lol. I suppose that’s what touch ups/re-designs are for. 
 

But going back to the topic: yes…I still say there’s just not enough information to make any assumptions. Even though it may very well occurred, it may not always be the “cause”. I remember years ago, some fucking bottom feeding, piece of shit and trash “client”, tried to make up a story about his roommate having his drawers ransacked and cash missing. He started questioning me…and I’m like: if I did take the amount of money he was talking about, I would have left already 🤦🏾‍♂️ 

I don’t even know if the story was true. But what I do know is I didn’t take anything, and I still don’t know til this day, why he would make some shit up like that, and try to frame me. Think it was his way of getting out of paying me the balance.
 

But when he came at me threatening me, I didn’t hesitate to call 911 on him. The fact he was a client didn’t make it right. Because if I had to beat him up, I woulda gone ape 🦍 shit, and I know I would have been framed as the battery suspect 😆 

I’ve learned to stay on the right side, and let the police work “with” you, not against. And later on, I found out the name of the guy and his place of work who owned the house he tried to pull that crap : and mailed him a nice big envelope, with a copy of the police report. People be thinking escorts have no common sense or we can’t do anything. I be like…I’ll be the last one ☝️you try some bogus shit with. 

Anyhow I have to step away from this thread. These type of topics can be very triggering lol. Fortunately, those past lessons have made it to where I  more likely avoid such situations.

I had to send a long text to a client the other month, about why he had no place to feel “weird” that I wanted him to come to my hotel first…versus to his air bnb with 2 other guys who “might” want to hire me. Like bruh, you may be a fine gentleman, but I’ve seen it all and done it all. I don’t always know why my intuition may not like certain situations, but if it seems messy, I’m going to avoid it. And sure enough, those 2 other guys never wanted to hire me. If anything they probably would have messed up the whole appointment.

Edited August 21, 2023 by Jarrod_Uncut

[+ DrownedBoy]

I don’t think there's much you can do in this situation. 

Texas, the only state in the Union where "gay people are all abnormal " is written in the ruling party's platform. The law, police, and courts are not on your side.

And I'm sure RM doesn't like stories like this getting out, since it makes clients less likely to use them.

[Urnightmare]

How did this work? You guys were traveling together? Was there even sex involved?- if not, maybe worth reporting. Details?

[GTMike]

On 8/18/2023 at 8:59 AM, BuffaloKyle said:

You're gonna have to call the police. You're gonna have to explain how you met him and while yes hiring him for sex is illegal I truly think they won't care too much about that. Good luck, keep us updated.

 

On 8/18/2023 at 8:45 AM, glycine said:

Hey there. So last night I had overnights with 2 guys, unrelated (didn’t know each other) we went to another place and at like 4am one of them disappeared. I found out later he took my keys, drove to my Airbnb and stole my wallet and 2 laptops
 

I have messaged and called and no answer yet. What should I do now ?  Help !

FYI check out this article - 

Las Vegas woman left U2 concert to take $50K from ‘sugar daddy’s’ hotel safe: police

WWW.YAHOO.COM

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A Las Vegas woman faces charges of grand larceny and burglary after police say she left her "sugar daddy" at...

 

[Simon Suraci]

Way back in the thread before any mention of the the tattoo, I noticed the forehead. I have nothing against face tattoos in general, but I sure as hell am going to see a red flag when someone willingly puts anything that could be immediately construed as violent or threatening on their face…even as a reference to a musical artist. Not everyone will get the reference. Even when they do, this particular tattoo isn’t very tasteful or attractive, in my subjective opinion. At best, distracting. At worst, unsettling. It demonstrates bad judgment.

Say he didn’t have that horrid tattoo. His pics are all grimaces and frowns, when you even see his face at all, otherwise behind a sloppy camera-blocks-face selfie. Nothing professional, inviting, or alluring about that approach. Trashy vibe in general. In this case, what you see is exactly what you get. I never would have hired the guy.

Aside on Houston: between Memphis and Houston, these two cities were where I felt the least safe so far. In fact, I stayed in a nice area of Montrose, the Houston “gayborhood”. A vagrant robbed one of my clients on his way out to his car after his appointment with me. My client tracked down the thief using using an apple tracking device and paid a ransom to get his valuables back. I had other troubles in Houston I won’t even get into here.

Please, clients and providers alike, be extra careful and vigilant in Houston. It has a lot of shady characters. Even the nicer areas are vulnerable to crime. Use common sense no matter how professional and put together your guy is, but especially when your guy looks like this. I hate to say it, but sometimes a book cover does not belie its content.

[Hot4latin]

11 hours ago, Simon Suraci said:

Please, clients and providers alike, be extra careful and vigilant in Houston. It has a lot of shady characters. Even the nicer areas are vulnerable to crime. Use common sense no matter how professional and put together your guy is, but especially when your guy looks like this. I hate to say it, but sometimes a book cover does not belie its content.

As I sit in my Houston hotel room hiring and sampling the local talent.

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Edited October 24, 2023 by Hot4latin

[Guest]

It won't eliminate the possibility but staying in nicer hotels in nicer areas greatly reduces the chances of being victimized by petty crime or worse. I don't stay in hotels of my own much these days ( with respect to seeing folks ) but when I do I don't look for the least expensive.. I look at the most convenient for the folks I see and also for the most familiar and in good areas, if that means paying a bit more I'm more than fine with it. 

[GTMike]

18 hours ago, GTMike said:

 

FYI check out this article - 

Las Vegas woman left U2 concert to take $50K from ‘sugar daddy’s’ hotel safe: police

WWW.YAHOO.COM

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A Las Vegas woman faces charges of grand larceny and burglary after police say she left her "sugar daddy" at...

 

To add to relevance my point being that this gentlemen told Law Enforcement he hired and paid for a Sugar Baby in Las Vegas and confirmed that "sex" was discussed as being a part of the weekend's activities.

Now being that it was at Ceasar's Palace and they can see the security footage of her entering and exiting the elevators etc.. they had a lot to go on (and potentially he may have arranged for travel and a name).

At the end of the day it's being alleged as a robbery despite the clear nature of the contextual transaction.

[Jarrod_Uncut]

On 10/23/2023 at 8:53 PM, GTMike said:

 

FYI check out this article - 

Las Vegas woman left U2 concert to take $50K from ‘sugar daddy’s’ hotel safe: police

WWW.YAHOO.COM

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A Las Vegas woman faces charges of grand larceny and burglary after police say she left her "sugar daddy" at...

 

“The two met at Caesars Palace on Friday, Oct. 13, The victim gave McNally the code to the safe, and she stored her purse there with his personal belongings, including $50,000 in cash and $7,000 worth of casino chips, the report stated.”

 

I’m just rolling my eyes throughout the story reading this. First of all, he trusted a new woman direct access to his money. #1 mistake. Then gave the code and shared the safe, #2. It’s a safe for a reason. And #3 doing it on Friday the 13th, which is just bad juju to begin with lol. 

 

I feel bad when people make mistakes, but it also upsets me. It paints sex workers in a negative light which further criminalizes us. But he  is every much responsible for this, as she is. He should have never trusted his money around that chick in the first place. 

And it’s just more sad because men trust White men and women escorts more, and hire them sometimes over Black providers, thinking they are angels. It’s not true. They’ll rob you blind like anybody else. So, hopefully he learned his lesson.

But that woman is also foolish, because every casino in Las Vegas has a million cameras, you’re literally being filmed from the time you drive up, to the time you walk into your hotel room. And that can be several hundred feet of walking and recording lol. I learned that from a good poster here @not2rowdy when we used to meet in Las Vegas lol. 
 

Matter of fact, she also shouldn’t have stored her purse in the safe at all. Suppose the client got mad at her at the event, ditched her, changed the key card and tossed her purse? This is all stuff I’ve learned from years of experience in the biz. Like I said before, any and everything you can imagine: I’ve had it happen. I wouldn’t trust anybody I’ve just met with personal belongings.

That’s another example of: how you can get robbed whether you pay a deposit or not. He would have had better luck just using Venmo. 

 

 

Edited October 25, 2023 by Jarrod_Uncut

[+ Coolwave35]

4 hours ago, Jarrod_Uncut said:

men trust White men escorts more, and hire them sometimes over Black providers, thinking they are angels. It’s not true. They’ll rob you blind like anybody else. 

I rented a house in the Hollywood Hills and had a party with several escorts. All my money was in my book bag locked in the master bedroom with no safe. I would take guys into the room for private time periodically throughout the weekend but the majority of fun took place in the open areas. 

Through out the weekend I had connected particularly well with one escort. Everyone else was local and left Sunday night. He asked if he could stay til Monday and hitch a ride to the airport as we were both flying out. I said no problem. After everyone had left, he and I opted for one more romp in the master bedroom.  It was amazing and icing on the cake. We finished up at 2am and were both tired. I paid him and said I always rush to the airport and didn’t want to forget in the morning. I pulled out the backpack and paid him. He said how tired he was and that we should sleep. I agreed. As I was lying in his arms, I couldn’t shake the feeling I had fucked up by literally showing him exactly where I kept my unsecured money. I felt vulnerable and like a sitting duck. 

Maybe 15 minutes later, I finally told him that I wasn’t able to sleep with someone else in my bed and I’d love for him to sleep in one of the other bedrooms. He said no problem, and got up to go sleep in another room. Almost the second the bedroom door closed I rushed over to lock it. It made a really loud noise, and I heard him say “wow” in slow motion in the most frustrated, sad, disappointed tone I think I’ve ever heard. I felt bad but because I knew he realized in that moment that I didn’t trust him, and the three days prior were pretty fun and we connected well personally and sexually. 

I woke up a few hours later to an empty house and a note on the kitchen table that said something along the lines of “not every white guy with a neck tattoo is going to rob you and murder you in your sleep.  It was really fun until it wasn’t. I’ll find my own way to the airport.” 

I felt so bad for years and the situation would pop in my head periodically.  I stopped feeling bad when I found out that after beating his girlfriend up, he beat a client and stole a substantial amount of their money in a drug fueled rage.  
 

I’ve learned well and often through my hiring sprees that race is no indicator of whether you’re a dirtbag or not. However I agree with you that for many, it does and I’m sorry. 

[cany10011]

The police will ask too many questions, how did you meet him? Which website? etc... if you start fibbing and they catch it, it will be hard to explain things. Most likely he was unable to access your laptop (assuming you have it password protected). Just freeze and change your cards, change your bank accounts, and get a new car. 

[+ DrownedBoy]

10 hours ago, Coolwave35 said:

I rented a house in the Hollywood Hills and had a party with several escorts. All my money was in my book bag locked in the master bedroom with no safe. I would take guys into the room for private time periodically throughout the weekend but the majority of fun took place in the open areas. 

Through out the weekend I had connected particularly well with one escort. Everyone else was local and left Sunday night. He asked if he could stay til Monday and hitch a ride to the airport as we were both flying out. I said no problem. After everyone had left, he and I opted for one more romp in the master bedroom.  It was amazing and icing on the cake. We finished up at 2am and were both tired. I paid him and said I always rush to the airport and didn’t want to forget in the morning. I pulled out the backpack and paid him. He said how tired he was and that we should sleep. I agreed. As I was lying in his arms, I couldn’t shake the feeling I had fucked up by literally showing him exactly where I kept my unsecured money. I felt vulnerable and like a sitting duck. 

Maybe 15 minutes later, I finally told him that I wasn’t able to sleep with someone else in my bed and I’d love for him to sleep in one of the other bedrooms. He said no problem, and got up to go sleep in another room. Almost the second the bedroom door closed I rushed over to lock it. It made a really loud noise, and I heard him say “wow” in slow motion in the most frustrated, sad, disappointed tone I think I’ve ever heard. I felt bad but because I knew he realized in that moment that I didn’t trust him, and the three days prior were pretty fun and we connected well personally and sexually. 

I woke up a few hours later to an empty house and a note on the kitchen table that said something along the lines of “not every white guy with a neck tattoo is going to rob you and murder you in your sleep.  It was really fun until it wasn’t. I’ll find my own way to the airport.” 

I felt so bad for years and the situation would pop in my head periodically.  I stopped feeling bad when I found out that after beating his girlfriend up, he beat a client and stole a substantial amount of their money in a drug fueled rage.  
 

I’ve learned well and often through my hiring sprees that race is no indicator of whether you’re a dirtbag or not. However I agree with you that for many, it does and I’m sorry. 

This is why I prefer Castle Doctrine counties.

[+ The Big Guy]

There are many good observations in these last few posts.   I don’t think it is about race.  It is about how much you trust someone you don’t know very well.  I have been with white, black, and brown and prefer to protect my privacy and valuables until we know each other well enough that we have developed that mutual trust. 

[+ nycman]

14 hours ago, Coolwave35 said:

I felt so bad for years and the situation would pop in my head periodically.

I know exactly the feeling you’re describing. It sucks. And that’s exactly the feeling that Con-artists are looking to exploit. You trusted your instincts. There is nothing wrong with that. And if that hurts someone’s feelings who can’t understand that, so be it. 

In the long run, my gut has saved me 100 times more than my heart, head or penis ever did. 

[+ Coolwave35]

2 hours ago, nycman said:

I know exactly the feeling you’re describing. It sucks. And that’s exactly the feeling that Con-artists are looking to exploit. You trusted your instincts. There is nothing wrong with that. And if that hurts someone’s feelings who can’t understand that, so be it. 

In the long run, my gut has saved me 100 times more than my heart, head or penis ever did. 

Can I take you to dinner this weekend? I’m in New York City and you have been someone I’ve wanted to meet for a very long time. You’re kind. 

[coriolis888]

On 8/19/2023 at 7:41 AM, dbar123 said:

 

It’s a good reminder to hide stuff when new providers come to call. A hotel safe always comes in

handy

Do not be too comfortable about a hotel "safe". 

I will not go into detail how to do it, but it takes less than thirty seconds to open the typical hotel safe.  No tools are necessary to open the "safe" door, no marks or damages are left on the "safe" door.  

I always use "good" hotels like Hilton, Marriott, etc.  These hotels all have similar safes.  They all can be opened without force.  It just takes a code that all typical hotels safes have. 

On one of my recent trips, a good friend cautioned me about leaving money and valuables in a hotel safe. 

I did not believe him.  

He asked my permission to show me what he meant. 

Like I said above, it took him less than thirty seconds to open the door on the supposed hotel "safe".  

Back to the crook who "borrowed" the car and drove to the Airbnb to steal two computers.  Depending on the state (Texas) where the theft took place and how the relationship began, a look at the laws of prostitution of Texas should be a deciding influence whether to report the theft or just pass it off as an unfortunate event.  

If the provider was met through rentmen.eu, I would not report the theft to the police, or, if the thief has text messages back and forth (on his telephone) discussing sex for money etc. 

Finally, if the guy was met through rentmen, it would be a good deed to forum members if the crook's link is posted to this thread.    

Edited October 26, 2023 by coriolis888

[+ DrownedBoy]

19 hours ago, nycman said:

I know exactly the feeling you’re describing. It sucks. And that’s exactly the feeling that Con-artists are looking to exploit. You trusted your instincts. There is nothing wrong with that. And if that hurts someone’s feelings who can’t understand that, so be it. 

In the long run, my gut has saved me 100 times more than my heart, head or penis ever did. 

Con artists' first action is to act like what they're doing is right, whereas what the mark is doing is wrong.

Remember - con artists are thieves, not escorts, and may be treated like a trespassing thief.