ManBearPig Posted August 4, 2023 Posted August 4, 2023 So let me just start off by saying I’m a more or less “straight” guy (I only date women), who despite not really being attracted to men I LOVE getting fucked by them. I have been bottoming for almost a decade and the last couple of years have really upped my game. So much so that I figure, why no see if I can do so for money? I was wondering if you could all give me honest feedback…. Is there any demand for a big, hairy, bear type (6’1”/270lbs) BOTTOM sw? I assume that there is a lid for each pot but I also assume that tops have no trouble finding bottoms Also do any of these other factors help or hurt me: - As a bigger guy I can easily take big and tick d. - I LOVE getting gangbanged / having a train run on me. - I am totally open to men of all races, ethnicities, etc - I honestly am straight / bi. I enjoy gay sex but have no desire to date men. - I have some pretty nasty fetishes. What do you guys think? Is it worth me even exploring?
ManBearPig Posted August 4, 2023 Author Posted August 4, 2023 Oh and I forgot to mention I’m in like my early 40s lol.
+ azdr0710 Posted August 5, 2023 Posted August 5, 2023 what is "sw"?..... + Vegas_Millennial and CuriousByNature 2
Simon Suraci Posted August 5, 2023 Posted August 5, 2023 1 hour ago, azdr0710 said: what is "sw"?..... Sex worker. Whippoorwill, + azdr0710 and marylander1940 3
Simon Suraci Posted August 5, 2023 Posted August 5, 2023 @ManBearPig Go for it. It’s not an easy job. It takes a LOT behind the scenes and not everyone is cut out to be a good SW. I won’t even begin to outline all the things you would need to prepare yourself for emotionally, physically, time wise, and mentally. If you want to be successful, you have to be willing to go all the way on all those things, not just tick a few physical characteristic boxes. Not all the work is flashy and sexy. That’s just the front end. There is a market for every type. Straight/bi men have a special appeal for some. That’s a plus. Regarding body type, there’s a market for every shape and size and color and age. Let the clients come to you. It’s refreshing having options other than Abercrombie models. I wouldn’t be as concerned with the physical. Do NOT discount all the other demands of a successful SW. nate_sf, + bashful and Jamie21 2 1
Jamie21 Posted August 5, 2023 Posted August 5, 2023 13 hours ago, ManBearPig said: So let me just start off by saying I’m a more or less “straight” guy (I only date women), who despite not really being attracted to men I LOVE getting fucked by them. I have been bottoming for almost a decade and the last couple of years have really upped my game. So much so that I figure, why no see if I can do so for money? I was wondering if you could all give me honest feedback…. Is there any demand for a big, hairy, bear type (6’1”/270lbs) BOTTOM sw? I assume that there is a lid for each pot but I also assume that tops have no trouble finding bottoms Also do any of these other factors help or hurt me: - As a bigger guy I can easily take big and tick d. - I LOVE getting gangbanged / having a train run on me. - I am totally open to men of all races, ethnicities, etc - I honestly am straight / bi. I enjoy gay sex but have no desire to date men. - I have some pretty nasty fetishes. What do you guys think? Is it worth me even exploring? If you’re only monetising your sex life it probably won’t work. Clients will see through that. You’ll need to offer more than “I’m available to get fucked”. Clients want to feel that you’re interested in their pleasure just as much as it’s fun for you. So I’d suggest if you can get that mindset and approach it will work sustainably. raife, MikeBiDude, Bokomaru and 6 others 4 5
blck37 Posted August 5, 2023 Posted August 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Jamie21 said: If you’re only monetising your sex life it probably won’t work. Clients will see through that. You’ll need to offer more than “I’m available to get fucked”. Clients want to feel that you’re interested in their pleasure just as much as it’s fun for you. So I’d suggest if you can get that mindset and approach it will work sustainably. This is golden. From a client perspective, as much as i understand the session is transactional in nature, i want to feel some degree of connection with the provider. If its not genuine then you better fake as if it is, thats the hard part i reckon (for providers). SamSpring, Whippoorwill, Simon Suraci and 1 other 3 1
ManBearPig Posted August 5, 2023 Author Posted August 5, 2023 3 hours ago, Jamie21 said: If you’re only monetising your sex life it probably won’t work. Clients will see through that. You’ll need to offer more than “I’m available to get fucked”. Clients want to feel that you’re interested in their pleasure just as much as it’s fun for you. So I’d suggest if you can get that mindset and approach it will work sustainably. Ooooh that’s great advice! I DEFINITELY think I can adopt that mindset. Thank you :) Jamie21 1
nate_sf Posted August 5, 2023 Posted August 5, 2023 I'll agree with the others, the one way to find out is to give it a go. And as others have mentioned, this shouldn't be "I love sex so much, I should get paid for it." (i.e., monetizing your sex life). You would be providing a service, so you want to think of what value you are offering for the money. Some guys will get off on the idea of fucking a straight bud, so that could be your angle. Also how well this works will depend on where you are and what the market demand is... I'm a bit bearish myself, and while I do really well in some locations I get no luck in others. So how about those nasty fetishes? Care to share? Maybe some of that can be part of your pitch too. Simon Suraci, marylander1940 and SirBillybob 2 1
+ purplekow Posted August 5, 2023 Posted August 5, 2023 First, having sex when you want to have sex is the easy part. I would see the issue being having sex when you do not want to have sex, either desire, partner, general state of the spiritual, physical and mental. Bluntly, there will probably be a lot more snickers at your profile than takers, but there may be enough takers, if you are good at what you do in terms of technique, interaction, timeliness, availability and of course location. One plus for you is, that there are not a lot of candidates out there that have the appearance you describe, though there are some, so you may have a lane with little traffic. You may want to consider finding a working escort who has a similar physical appeal. Hire him. Then pick his brain after he fucks you ass. Whippoorwill, Simon Suraci and Bokomaru 1 1 1
marylander1940 Posted August 5, 2023 Posted August 5, 2023 20 hours ago, ManBearPig said: So let me just start off by saying I’m a more or less “straight” guy (I only date women), who despite not really being attracted to men I LOVE getting fucked by them. I have been bottoming for almost a decade and the last couple of years have really upped my game. So much so that I figure, why no see if I can do so for money? I was wondering if you could all give me honest feedback…. Is there any demand for a big, hairy, bear type (6’1”/270lbs) BOTTOM sw? I assume that there is a lid for each pot but I also assume that tops have no trouble finding bottoms Also do any of these other factors help or hurt me: - As a bigger guy I can easily take big and tick d. - I LOVE getting gangbanged / having a train run on me. - I am totally open to men of all races, ethnicities, etc - I honestly am straight / bi. I enjoy gay sex but have no desire to date men. - I have some pretty nasty fetishes. What do you guys think? Is it worth me even exploring? Place and ad and see how it goes. Plenty of members are overweight and constantly talk about all the guys they attract, one even said when he was 400lbs guys found him hotter than when he was down to 300lbs. I'm sure there's demand for overweight escorts!
marylander1940 Posted August 5, 2023 Posted August 5, 2023 28 minutes ago, purplekow said: First, having sex when you want to have sex is the easy part. I would see the issue being having sex when you do not want to have sex, either desire, partner, general state of the spiritual, physical and mental. Bluntly, there will probably be a lot more snickers at your profile than takers, but there may be enough takers, if you are good at what you do in terms of technique, interaction, timeliness, availability and of course location. One plus for you is, that there are not a lot of candidates out there that have the appearance you describe, though there are some, so you may have a lane with little traffic. You may want to consider finding a working escort who has a similar physical appeal. Hire him. Then pick his brain after he fucks you ass. Great point but the OP wants this as a side thing meaning potential clients should know he's not available 24/7. Unfortunately most clients don't read ads. Considering his description @ManBearPig won't have a problem getting horny and taking clients to fulfill his "nasty fetishes", etc.
Simon Suraci Posted August 5, 2023 Posted August 5, 2023 18 minutes ago, marylander1940 said: Great point but the OP wants this as a side thing meaning potential clients should know he's not available 24/7. Unfortunately most clients don't read ads. ^This. For a while I was offering services part time while juggling my full time architecture career. You have the responsibility of responding at all waking hours of the day and night while still being busy doing your primary work. It’s exhausting. Clients don’t read the ad and don’t care anyway even the few that do. Clients are demanding and expect you to be available for them all the time, even if it’s just setting up an appointment for later, or confirming your pricing, or telling them you aren’t available when they want, or dealing with the onslaught of dick pics and discount requests, and thinly veiled appeals for affirmation, or attempts to sext with you for free…or any number of other time consuming behaviors. Also there’s the flexibility factor. Some clients can only meet during the day, or only meet on a certain day or certain times. Maybe they are a business traveler who only has a few hours of free time on a trip. You can’t take that many potential clients if you only have narrow windows of availability. It’s hard enough to get clients to book when your schedule is fully flexible. We’ve discussed a lot of these frustrations in other threads, but my point is it takes crazy amounts of time to be successful in this business. There’s time preparing, traveling, waiting for late clients, laundry, self care, gym time (if you go), time for professional photo shoots, updating ads, managing your scheduling system, among many other things. All of them are small, but they add up in aggregate. Whatever time you’re actually with your clients, double it -no- triple it. If you work 10 hours a week (as in face time with clients), that’s 30 or more hours -nearly a full time job - worth of time to manage and grow your “part time” gig. If you grow at all, say 12-15 hours a week, that’s a full time job. All while working your regular 40+ hour per week job, managing your personal life, and taking time for yourself to recharge. That’s a very full life. I know, because I’ve been there, and it’s challenging. I’ve been burned out too, and it took me quitting my full time job to confirm and appreciate that it’s not worth the crazy. Working part time is possible, but it’s not for the faint of heart, and not for those who find success and want to grow their business. It’s certainly not for those serious about their business, at least not if they want to be successful. Sure, you can monetize your sex life only sleeping with people you’re interested in, but that makes for a bad SW. You’re really not offering any value in that case. You have to do it when you don’t feel like it. It’s a service, not a mutual hookup that happens to involve money. There’s nothing casual about this business. If you want to take it seriously and succeed, consider what it takes and be willing to commit to it. Even part time is a LOT of work! + purplekow, Whippoorwill and marylander1940 2 1
SirBillybob Posted August 5, 2023 Posted August 5, 2023 (edited) 22 hours ago, ManBearPig said: - As a bigger guy I can easily take big and tick d. - I LOVE getting gangbanged / having a train run on me. Endowed size outliers are more likely to attract willing bottoms outside of transactional contexts, that or their Grindr is probably dysfunctional. So probably no significant CSW ad-vantage. Clients tend not to coordinate tag-teaming, so again no real ad-vantage. I wouldn’t worry about the apparent disconnect between orientation label and behaviour. As many men that have sex with both men women yet don’t identify as gay actually identify as heterosexual as bisexual. You might prefer clients that endorse this fluidity anyway. What strikes me as most interesting is your implied success at attracting non-paying male tops. What characteristics and skills do you possess that might be employable in recruiting clients, particularly those that are willing to pay in order to avoid the hassles of non-transactional hook-ups? Unless, of course, your ass is routinely presented for example in a bathhouse cabin; that would not easily cross-over into the ad-based CSW role. Edited August 5, 2023 by SirBillybob
Simon Suraci Posted August 5, 2023 Posted August 5, 2023 1 hour ago, SirBillybob said: Clients tend not to coordinate tag-teaming, so again no real ad-vantage. Agreed on this point. Clients pay me to coordinate more parties. Almost always it’s for other hired men. It’s too difficult and time consuming to arrange for additional guys the client isn’t paying for. The client can do that himself on his own time for free. Your personal satisfaction and gratification have nothing to do with this work. You work at the pleasure of the client. Oftentimes that excludes or limits your personal gratification. SirBillybob and Whippoorwill 2
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