How far is too far for a provider to drive for a 2 hour appointment?

[hwic04]

Often providers’ ads will list cities they’re willing to travel to, or simply state they’re willing to travel. For a weekend appointment I’ve flown guys from LA to Dallas. An overnight? Guys will drive from Miami to Orlando. But what about a two hour appointment? Unless the escort acquires lodging for himself (which would cut into the day’s profits) he’s making a round trip drive. 
 

LA to San Diego, and Chicago to Milwaukee are probably reasonable. But how about Chicago to Indianapolis, San Francisco to Reno or LA to Vegas? At what point would an escort not be willing to make that round trip? Obviously extra compensation for a lengthy drive would be included, but when does the round trip drive become unrealistic for a 2 hour appointment?

Of course, the client simply asking is always an answer. But I’d be interested in what escorts reading this have to say, and what clients’ experiences are in this scenario, and what the extra compensation should be. 

[Shawn Monroe]

As most everything in this forum goes, it varies from provider to provider MF scenario to scenario. 

My general rule (unless it is a regular before I got sick) is the driving distance is not longer than the appointment time. 

That being said, if you want to ensure they’ll come, you may want to compensate for driving time beforehand. Even if they don’t, you’re only out that expense.

But what do I know!

[+ purplekow]

 

I have two regular guys who drive almost 4 hours each way for a 2 hour appointment.  Sometimes I will extend to an overnight.  Most of the time, I believe they are driving to my area for another appointment and my two hour date makes the trip worthwhile.  I always offer a meal.  I am grateful that these guys are willing to drive this far.  I am also cognizant of the inconvenience of traffic and weather considerations and I have continued to hire these two men even though they each have cancelled at the last moment many times due to those issues.  In fact, one of them cancelled 10 appointments in a row.  However, when I hire these guys, I take the attitude that if they show great, if they do not, it is understandable.  

I had two other semi regulars who would drive about 2 hours but each of those two eventually found the drive too taxing and have bowed out.   

So in the case of how far to too far, literally you mileage may differ.  

[Simon Suraci]

Agree, it varies from provider to provider.

For me, it depends on: the service requested, distance, location, and client.

1) Service requested. Outcall massages are a bitch and a half for me to fulfill. I know many other masseurs regularly do outcalls for no extra charge. More power to them. Those appointments do not make business sense for me. Few clients are willing to pay something reasonable for my time. Not just $20 for gas…like actually compensate me for the time I am devoting to fulfilling their appointment. This is lost on most people, so I just decline.

To do massage outcalls without charging a considerable fee, it has to be a longer session, like a couples massage. Or I am really slow on a particular day, which I tend to embrace when those days happen because slow days are infrequent. I would rather have a break from my typical 7-day work week than work double the time (or longer) for the same fee.

Packing up the table and all the accoutrements takes time. Setups/takedowns (x4; my place and theirs) plus driving time exceeds most requested appointment times. I don’t do bed massages either.

Non-massage services, on the other hand, require much less time and the fee per hour is higher, which justifies the driving time. An outcall to a hotel 15-20 mins away is a no brainer. I don’t charge travel for locations close by. If it’s an hour or more both ways, I probably wouldn’t do it unless the client offered to compensate for travel.

2) Distance. If it takes longer to get to the location by nature of distance, I’m out. Generally one hour or less both ways, and usually only for non-massage appointments. When a client offers to compensate reasonably for going a long distance, I consider it.

3) Location. A client may be relatively close, but it may take longer or be a hassle because the location or timing is inconvenient.

Here’s an example. A client requests an outcall massage at their hotel a few blocks away in a downtown area. I would have to find parking and pay for it, and it may not be that much closer to them than it is to me anyway. It makes more sense to schlepp the table blocks away on foot than park, but the client could simply walk to me or take a very short rideshare. If they won’t visit me, I decline.

Another example. A client asks me to drive to a location that puts me in peak traffic before and/or after their appointment. It may normally be a 15 min drive, but it takes me an hour or longer because of the timing. Hard pass.

4) Client. For trusted regular clients, I am much more willing to go out of my way to serve them. Especially if they tip well. This is part of the ongoing relationship building and grows from mutual trust and respect.

[Jamie21]

I charge more for out calls. That factors in the travel time. If it’s beyond my normal out call rate area then I’ll quote a rate that takes into account the travel time and costs. Then it’s up to my client whether they’re prepared to pay it or not. If they are, then we have a deal. If the travel time exceeds 90 minutes each way then it’s usually not viable for them. 

[+ DrownedBoy]

I have regulars who easily do 30-40 minutes each way for a 2-hour. However, that's mainly because of city traffic, not distance. They're willing to as long as I keep it at 2 hours. Most local escorts are.

One regular drives a bit more of an hour each way. However, he's lives in much smaller market and has to travel for clients.

[IamAdamRose]

Lol…. It would need to be a 2 hr/$600 minimum booking….. & at least offering a 30% deposit would suffice…. 

[+ Coolwave35]

I have a guy that drives 3 hours one way for a 2 hour session. He’s the only one I’ve ever met willing to do that kind of commute.  I pay him for 4 hours. He’s Latin and licks his lips like LL Cool J. So sexy! 

Edited July 12, 2023 by Coolwave35

[Jason Dutch]

I ask for compensation to drive anything more than 30 minutes, though not at my booking rate. Usually ask for realistic gas costs plus $30/hr or so for the travel. If it’s more than 75 mins each way it is likely cutting into my availability too much to be worth it.

[+ Coolwave35]

5 hours ago, Jason Dutch said:

I ask for compensation to drive anything more than 30 minutes, though not at my booking rate. Usually ask for realistic gas costs plus $30/hr or so for the travel. If it’s more than 75 mins each way it is likely cutting into my availability too much to be worth it.

I have offered compensation for travel time and sooooo many providers turn me down.  

[Luv2play]

I live in a small town so either I travel or the provider does. I would not expect a provider to travel more than 2 hour to me for less than an overnight. I have had a few who were passing through anyway so we do 2 hours.  

I will compensate for travel expenses when they are coming for an overnight. On the other side when I go to their cities I have travel expenses and lodging to consider.  

[Simon Suraci]

2 hours ago, Coolwave35 said:

I have offered compensation for travel time and sooooo many providers turn me down.  

At least you offer. I consider serious offers. Most clients ~95% or more requesting outcall service don’t offer and then balk if I require a travel fee to book.

I’m more accommodating with regard to travel for escort appointments. Not so for massage.

On 7/12/2023 at 1:05 AM, Coolwave35 said:

I have a guy that drives 3 hours one way for a 2 hour session. He’s the only one I’ve ever met willing to do that kind of commute.  I pay him for 4 hours. He’s Latin and licks his lips like LL Cool J. So sexy! 

This is reasonable to me. You’re asking the guy to dedicate an entire day just to serving you. Yeah it’s a lot of driving, but you’re compensating for that. I think I would do it in this case, especially if you were a regular/repeat, and I happen to have the whole day still available.

[Jarrod_Uncut]

On 7/10/2023 at 6:46 PM, hwic04 said:

Often providers’ ads will list cities they’re willing to travel to, or simply state they’re willing to travel. For a weekend appointment I’ve flown guys from LA to Dallas. An overnight? Guys will drive from Miami to Orlando. But what about a two hour appointment? Unless the escort acquires lodging for himself (which would cut into the day’s profits) he’s making a round trip drive. 
 

LA to San Diego, and Chicago to Milwaukee are probably reasonable. But how about Chicago to Indianapolis, San Francisco to Reno or LA to Vegas? At what point would an escort not be willing to make that round trip? Obviously extra compensation for a lengthy drive would be included, but when does the round trip drive become unrealistic for a 2 hour appointment?

Of course, the client simply asking is always an answer. But I’d be interested in what escorts reading this have to say, and what clients’ experiences are in this scenario, and what the extra compensation should be. 

As someone who has done all of those drives you’ve mentioned: I tend to more likely incorporate locations within a tour/travel plans versus limiting it to just 1 appointment. I’ll often have an anchor city (somewhat similar to anchor client but: moreso a city with a purpose for visiting) that is my main destination, and then just include locations along the way. Like when I travel to the west coast from the Midwest, I usually have several anchor cities that may be 2-4-6 hours apart. So I try to work it all in. In that case, it wouldn’t necessarily be out of my way, though it would still involve travel. Which will typically requires a deposit as well.
 

As for how far I’d go to meet a client on a non-tour drive, I will do that up to 3.5 hours away. I feel 3.5 hours is just within the amount of time to be able to go there and back, and spend the night. And even if I only have 1 client, it could be worth it. But there’s usually the opportunity to see more.

For example, being in Kansas City I’ll occasionally go to Tulsa, Arkansas, Des Moines (though I haven’t been to Omaha in awhile) Last year I tried to do 2 trips, but clients kept dicking around with booking, and it seems to be a common scenario in that area 🤦🏾‍♂️ 

However, all of those require the caveat of needing to be booked AHEAD. Not a week in advance, but at-least the day or 2 prior. But most people reaching out don’t think that far ahead for some reason. 

I usually won’t drive 3.5 hours away for a same day appointment when I’m home. Usually when I’m already on tour, I can get on the road quickly. It’s not always guaranteed if I don’t have enough notice to arrive.

For a typical same day ride/come home or back to the hotel same day for 1 client: I will usually max it to 90 minutes away. 

Here’s also an example below of driving time between 2 cities you mentioned: but notice how it’s not rush hour in SF yet. That could easily add 30-60 minutes:

 

 

In my case, if I were visiting San Francisco, I wouldn’t leave there to visit someone in Reno for a 2 hour session. I would try to incorporate it along the way to my next destination. If I were living in SF, Reno would be close enough to my 3.5 hour limit preference. But I’d work it in if booked ahead, and with deposit+tip. 

Edited July 25, 2023 by Jarrod_Uncut