$500/Hour

[+ tassojunior]

51 minutes ago, Muscleaddict333 said:

Again he’s not my type, but he’s significantly better looking than 99% of the escorts that are currently listed. The kids 5’10” 190 lbs of ripped muscle! Some are contemplating paying $500 for ‘escorts’ that are nowhere near his league! 
i met Bradley Blue - who’s extremely accommodating in the sack - for $300 an hour and gives a deal on multiple hours.

Can you post of an example of someone that you’re willing to pay $500 an hour for? I’m intrigued at this point.

If that's Bradley Black of DC/Ohio he's an old friend and super sweet. Off RM though I think. 

I didn't say I'd pay any certain amount (I hire a lot in EU where $200 is considered raging inflation). But I fully expect services of any kind to be at least 25% more than in 2021 and realize that with all the recent growth in nouveau upper middle class, the demand for services of escorts has skyrocketed. I have a European friend who is one of the top escorts and on working trips has been trying to juggle "several" dates a day (he's a bottom} even with his rates 33% higher than last year.  It's what the market will bear and in several large US cities people will spend a lot because they have it. In central Europe there's a huge resistance to rates jumping from $150 to $200 because upper level incomes have not risen and they haven't had the generational wealth consolidation we have. 

 

[+ KensingtonHomo]

My sense of discomfort is that some clients want that "top tier" of escorts but feel pinched to pay the price they're asking. I suspect many of us in the white-collar managerial class CAN afford $500/hour, but some feel it SHOULD be cheaper, and others don't. I generally won't spend $500/hour, but the guys I prefer also don't generally charge that rate. The guys charging that rate tend to be porn actors, guys with big OF accounts, and very young, extremely fit, and beautiful men. Most guys who fit in those categories do not appeal to me. 

Since we hire as a couple, we're not interested in overnights or multiple hours. The longest we go is two; usually, there is a slight discount. 

I'm more likely to pay a higher price for a guy we know who has increased his prices than risk $500 on someone we've never met.  

[Muscleaddict333]

51 minutes ago, tassojunior said:

If that's Bradley Black of DC/Ohio he's an old friend and super sweet. Off RM though I think. 

I didn't say I'd pay any certain amount (I hire a lot in EU where $200 is considered raging inflation). But I fully expect services of any kind to be at least 25% more than in 2021 and realize that with all the recent growth in nouveau upper middle class, the demand for services of escorts has skyrocketed. I have a European friend who is one of the top escorts and on working trips has been trying to juggle "several" dates a day (he's a bottom} even with his rates 33% higher than last year.  It's what the market will bear and in several large US cities people will spend a lot because they have it. In central Europe there's a huge resistance to rates jumping from $150 to $200 because upper level incomes have not risen and they haven't had the generational wealth consolidation we have. 

 

Bradley Blue the big blonde bodybuilder. 5’10 240 pounds all muscle, huge muscle ass and gay. He’s one of my goto guys when I want full on sex - IM a top. I also see Alex Volkov when I want to top. Both better than 99% of the escorts listed in NYC. both agree to the fee I’m willing to pay - again I hire for 2 hours usually.
 

AlexVolkovXXX - Pornstar Performer, Rentboy, Gay Massage in Houston, TX | RentMen

RENTMEN.EU

---

Pornstar Performer & Rentboy in Houston, TX - AlexVolkovXXX: NO CALL NO CALL ONLY TEXT 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

I don’t believe that in NYC that many of these guys can survive charging more than $300 per hour. Most of them are on Grindr late at night giving discounts. It’s too competitive; way too many options! 

Edited July 9, 2023 by Muscleaddict333

[+ KensingtonHomo]

1 hour ago, Muscleaddict333 said:

Bradley Blue the big blonde bodybuilder. 5’10 240 pounds all muscle, huge muscle ass and gay. He’s one of my goto guys when I want full on sex - IM a top. I also see Alex Volkov when I want to top. Both better than 99% of the escorts listed in NYC. both agree to the fee I’m willing to pay - again I hire for 2 hours usually.
 

AlexVolkovXXX - Pornstar Performer, Rentboy, Gay Massage in Houston, TX | RentMen

RENTMEN.EU

---

Pornstar Performer & Rentboy in Houston, TX - AlexVolkovXXX: NO CALL NO CALL ONLY TEXT 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

I don’t believe that in NYC that many of these guys can survive charging more than $300 per hour. Most of them are on Grindr late at night giving discounts. It’s too competitive; way too many options! 

See, no offense to @Muscleaddict333 but these guys do zero for me. They're entirely too muscular for my taste. They could be paying me $500 and I'd be like "meh..." 

There's a lid for every pot. 

[+ goosh69]

10 hours ago, marylander1940 said:

Yes, I have an I daily check United considering the flexible cancellations and rebooking rules.

Are you implying the same escort would charge 200 at one time of the day and 250 later? 

Yes. Just like the same exact seat on the same

exact United plane on the same

exact United route costs different amounts depending on how far in advance yoh buy it, the day of the week and time of day of the flight, how full the plane is, and a number of other factors.
 

go on the united website right now and look at the cost of a 6 AM flight versus a noon one for the same route. Or how much cheaper Saturday afternoon and evening is versus Thursday for cross country flights (particularly in business class.)

 

It’s called dynamic pricing. It’s all over the economy - the most extreme example being concert tickets. This a basic thing in economics and MBA courses. And you’ve definitely experienced it if if you’ve ever traveled, as hotels and rental car companies do it too.

 

Dynamic pricing - Wikipedia

EN.WIKIPEDIA.ORG

 

Edited July 10, 2023 by goosh69

[coriolis888]

12 hours ago, Jamie21 said:

Overpriced for you. 

And, countless other clients who use logic when hiring.  

[Walt]

22 minutes ago, coriolis888 said:

And, countless other clients who use logic when hiring.  

Ah, but not for those others who 1.) have decided $500 is within their budget and 2.) want to do their darnedest to avoid sloppy seconds. Variety is what makes the world go round!

[Jamie21]

3 hours ago, coriolis888 said:

And, countless other clients who use logic when hiring.  

Leaving the market to those who logically decide they can afford it. 

[coriolis888]

5 minutes ago, Jamie21 said:

Leaving the market to those who logically decide they can afford it. 

This forum is usually a fun place to visit and participate.    

However, it is not enjoyable to see you repeatedly distort my posts and quote me inappropriately.     

I did not say that I could not afford the recently inflated increased provider fees, as you implied in your current and prior posts, attributing your responses to me as you did again in your post cited above. 

In my posts about the higher provider prices, I made it clear that I did not have a problem affording high prices.   

I expressed in my prior posts why the higher prices are not something in which I chose to participate.  

I hope you now understand.   

[ChasingGirth]

I think most of you are missing the bus. Escorts if they are good at what they do, get returning clients. When they gain a fair amount of returning regular clients they don’t have time for new ones. 

I asked one of my regular Brunobrazil, why is he now charging new clients $500 per hour with a minimum of 2 hours of booking, so basically $1000.

He told me that since he has loyal regulars, he has barely no free time for new ones unless they are really motivated and they show that by agreeing to his new rate terms. 

I asked the same question to Funwithnicolas and he said the same thing. His rate was 300 in 2022 and now is rate is $500. Nicolas also said that clients paying $500 are usually more professional and respectful. And this high rate filters the bad fishes.

[Jamie21]

3 hours ago, coriolis888 said:

This forum is usually a fun place to visit and participate.    

However, it is not enjoyable to see you repeatedly distort my posts and quote me inappropriately.     

I did not say that I could not afford the recently inflated increased provider fees, as you implied in your current and prior posts, attributing your responses to me as you did again in your post cited above. 

In my posts about the higher provider prices, I made it clear that I did not have a problem affording high prices.   

I expressed in my prior posts why the higher prices are not something in which I chose to participate.  

I hope you now understand.   

When I posted my original comment I did say ‘most people’. I didn’t say ‘you’. My perception is that it does apply to most people.

This issue reminds me of the Ricky Gervais ‘guitar lessons’ joke. 
 

[56harrisond]

3 minutes ago, Jamie21 said:

This issue reminds me of the Ricky Gervais ‘guitar lessons’ joke. 

 

 

[muscmtl]

20 hours ago, Muscleaddict333 said:

 

AlexVolkovXXX - Pornstar Performer, Rentboy, Gay Massage in Houston, TX | RentMen

RENTMEN.EU

---

Pornstar Performer & Rentboy in Houston, TX - AlexVolkovXXX: NO CALL NO CALL ONLY TEXT 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

I don’t believe that in NYC that many of these guys can survive charging more than $300 per hour. Most of them are on Grindr late at night giving discounts. It’s too competitive; way too many options! 

Escorts economics: the biggest mystery for me is when they say that escorts make 150k a year!!  there's just not enough men out there willing (or even able) to pay 300$ for all these guys to make that much. (12,000 escorts on rentmen as of now, so would mean 6,000,000 clients a year)

So what time should I log in on Grind?

[muscmtl]

On 7/8/2023 at 2:10 PM, Muscleaddict333 said:

$500 for 2 hours ($250 per hour)is what I pay and this is for ‘straight’ bodybuilders that do much more than just muscle worship. I wouldn’t pay $200 for 98% of the current crop on rentmen; and I live in NYC. There are a couple of exceptions that I would pay $300 an hour for! 
Some of my faves are Dolph, Aaron Lazzaro, Christian Powers, Muscle Max, and Muscle Jackson… and a few more. Most will do an overnight for $800- $1000. There’s no way I can reconcile paying $500  an hour for anyone that’s not a pro Bodybuilder. Jmho 

Sooooooo.. how much you make a year again😄

[Muscleaddict333]

I’m not rich, I wish. Your math is correct! If the demand were there most of these same guys would not be offering $150- $200 massages on rentmasseur; and giving discounts on Grindr. No one in their right mind is going to pay $500 an hour for 99% of these guys.

[+ DrownedBoy]

I do wonder how prices got so high.

I'm old enough to remember when $20 could get you a quick bj, and $100 all you wanted. However, those were streetwalkers and hustlers.

I agree that people should stay within their financial bracket (there are a lot if RM I wouldn't even consider due to price), but is there an equivalent "lower" market to fill the above gap? It's sure not Mintboys.

[Walt]

30 minutes ago, DrownedBoy said:

I'm old enough to remember when $20 could get you a quick bj

Yes, I remember that too! But the bad part was that I'd have to walk 5 miles each way in a blizzard and then after coming back home and milking the cows I'd have to finish up the work that I'd left undone by the light of a kerosene lamp.

[marylander1940]

15 hours ago, coriolis888 said:

And, countless other clients who use logic when hiring.  

Please no need to be judgmental about who pays for what services and how much. For instance some guys don't pay for sex..

 

[Decatur Guy]

I don't have a particular thought to add to the $500 price point per se other than my upper reach for one hour is $350. I just simply can't spend more even if the provider is fantastic. The funds don't exist for more. But I would like to briefly address this idea that threads and discussions on pricing are tiresome and should be limited, etc. 

I don't think they are tiresome. In fact, they are 100% core to why this website even exists. The exchange of $$$ is completely what this is all about. Almost all discussion would be rendered moot if you take money off the table. This site is not about no-money-exchange Grindr hookups. So the fact that some members of the forum would like to get a better lay of the land regarding what others pay for an hour in various places and situations is a very natural discussion point to me.

The landscape has changed A WHOLE LOT in just the past two years in regards to pricing. And I just got back on the forum recently. So personally, I find such discussions helpful. What I don't find helpful is people weighing in with sighs and arghs and "here we go again" and such. If topics about pricing ain't your cup of tea, just go get a different drink. No one is forcing you to participate. There are other posts on here. Why should those of us who want to explore price ceilings and affordability feel stifled into silence because you're personally not interested in this topic?

Given the rapid changes in the economy, I find posts about rates helpful in evaluating my hiring expectations and decisions.

Edited July 10, 2023 by Decatur Guy

[coriolis888]

2 hours ago, marylander1940 said:

Please no need to be judgmental about who pays for what services and how much. For instance some guys don't pay for sex..

 

You got it backward when quoting me.  

I was not judgmental about who PAYS - - - - - 

My posts had to do with the pricing some providers charge.  

 

[blck37]

I wonder if y'all keep the same spirit (and judgey 👀) when it comes to lawyer or therapist or any other non sexual profession charging by the hour. If not oh well......

[coriolis888]

7 minutes ago, blck37 said:

I wonder if y'all keep the same spirit (and judgey 👀) when it comes to lawyer or therapist or any other non sexual profession charging by the hour. If not oh well......

Not a good comparison.  A "lawyer or therapist" could face legal consequences if they behaved as do many providers.  This also applies to many other hourly professionals.  

Escort providers often cancel without warning, do not always do as they say they will, "ghost" a client, and sometimes use fake photos in their ads - - just to mention a few differences between those professions.  

[blck37]

Just now, coriolis888 said:

Not a good comparison.  A "lawyer or therapist" could face legal consequences if they behaved as do many providers.  This also applies to many other hourly professionals.  

Escort providers often cancel without warning, do not always do as they say they will, "ghost" a client, and sometimes use fake photos in their ads - - just to mention a few differences between those professions.  

So going by your logic, those providers who deliver and perform well are worth $500 🤷‍♂️

[coriolis888]

On 7/8/2023 at 8:41 PM, goosh69 said:

The NYC rate for the best looking guys was $300 or more in 2000. I personally paid that much IR more back then. We are not talking year over year inflation. We are talking many years. And you are using the overall CPI. The CPI for GOODS is often negative, and is currently much lower than the CPI for SERVICES. Think of how the prices of flat screen TVs actually go down, but tuition, haircuts, and eating at sit down restaurants do not. Being an escort should be compared to the CPI for services, which for human-based industries (say hairdressers) enjoy no technological means of increasing productivity per unit.

 

And BTW, this completely uncotroversial amongst economists, Wall Street analysts, or business leaders. Not one one former economic official from any presidential administration would dispute that service inflation has been higher than goods inflation for decades. 

on recent inflation: 

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/27/business/economy/what-causes-inflation.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare
 

on services inflation over time outpacing goods inflation:

 

Consumer Price Inflation, by Type of Good or Service (2000-2022)

WWW.VISUALCAPITALIST.COM

---

This century has seen divergent price movement. Consumer goods are cheaper, while critical categories like health and...

 

 

 

Funny how we can get different answers depending on where we research. 

You cited the NY Times which has a good reputation.

However, look at what the Macro Minutes says (also a good reputation) while discussing the different elements of inflation:

For our first post in 2023, we pick up right where we left off: discussing inflation. The last news we received after the mid-December FOMC meeting came from November PCE inflation. Declines in goods prices helped bring down the overall inflation rate. Prices for goods decreased 0.4 percent, while prices for services rose 0.4 percent. On a year-over-year basis, goods inflation (6.1 percent) is still higher than services inflation (5.2 percent).

With goods inflation and services inflation moving in opposite directions, which measure should we pay more attention to?

Watching Services Inflation in 2023

WWW.RICHMONDFED.ORG

---

For our first post in 2023, we pick up right where we left off: discussing inflation

 

[mike carey]

10 hours ago, Walt said:

Yes, I remember that too! But the bad part was that I'd have to walk 5 miles each way in a blizzard and then after coming back home and milking the cows I'd have to finish up the work that I'd left undone by the light of a kerosene lamp.

Tell that to young people these days, and they just won't believe you. But in MY day, it were absolutely true..