Why is average Life Expectancy declining in United States ?

[+ Vegas_Millennial]

2 hours ago, augustus said:

It's because of the drugs from South of the Border.  Causing many deaths among very young people which pulls down the average life expectancy much more drastically than if the user's were in their 60's or 70's.  

I'm sure @SouthOfTheBordercan't be blamed for bringing all the drugs! 😂

[+ Vegas_Millennial]

2 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

Young people in the United States are dying at a SIGNIFICANTLY higher rate than their counterparts in other industrialized nations.

Largely due to the rampant spread of drug use in this country, which is primarily coming in from South of the Border - carried by numerous smugglers or (so-called) "refugees".

I was surprised to read a few weeks ago that childhood (under 18) deaths have soard since 2020, primarily due to suicide.  While homicide rates for children are up slightly the past few years, they are about the same rates as 20 years ago.  Childhood suicide rates, on the other hand, have nearly doubled in the past 20 years. 

And to reiterate the point made by @augustus, a life lost at that young age will greatly reduce total live expectancy numbers more than a life lost  at a greater age.

Edited June 7, 2023 by Vegas_Millennial

[+ Lucky]

10 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said:

I certainly suffered. My gym was closed for over a year. I myself drank far more than I normally would. So much so I decided to just STOP for six months to reset my brain. I didn't get outside as much as I normally would and I put on five or more pounds of fat, and I've never had any weight issues in my life. So yeah. Sitting at home for months was definitely causing me more health problems than Covid 19 did. I am unaware of ever having it...although they now say 90% of the population had it even if they were unaware.

Poor you. You added 5 pounds of fat. Why not add some compassion for the people fleeing harsh governments and severe poverty?

[pubic_assistance]

5 minutes ago, Vegas_Millennial said:

deaths have soard since 2020, primarily due to suicide.

Ah ! yes. A very good point.

Instagram culture has exaggerated the usual teenage social angst and busy parents who are never home with their kids anymore eliminated the normal emotional support system that older generations enjoyed.

[pubic_assistance]

2 minutes ago, Lucky said:

Poor you. You added 5 pounds of fat. Why not add some compassion for the people fleeing harsh governments and severe poverty?

Was I comparing my belly fat to Rwanda ? @Lucky No I was not. So neither should you. The comment was about the detriment to one's health in response to being forced to stay home for endless months during the Covid19 panic.

Edited June 7, 2023 by pubic_assistance
grammar

[+ Vegas_Millennial]

7 minutes ago, Lucky said:

Poor you. You added 5 pounds of fat. Why not add some compassion for the people fleeing harsh governments and severe poverty?

Because this topic is about health declines in the US the last 3 years.  I am sure there are other threads to discuss people fleeing California.  😜

Edited June 7, 2023 by Vegas_Millennial

[SouthOfTheBorder]

2 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

Largely due to the rampant spread of drug use in this country, which is primarily coming in from South of the Border

while the US leads the world in drug overdose related deaths - the next closest is Scotland, no border there. (the US & Scotland have the same per capita drug deaths) 
Scotland experienced some life expectancy decline - although not comparable to US

And the opioid epidemic in US includes legal prescription drugs (Hello Sacklers!)

if supposedly this is all coming from south of the border, why aren’t the countries of origin experiencing similar use & overdoes deaths ? 
 

[+ Vegas_Millennial]

1 hour ago, Boink said:

The drugs may be coming from south of the border, but to me the real problem is why is there so much DEMAND for them on this side of the border?  If we'd stop buying, maybe they'd stop selling.

SAY NO TO DRUGS

[pubic_assistance]

1 minute ago, Vegas_Millennial said:

SAY NO TO DRUGS

[+ Vegas_Millennial]

40 minutes ago, sync said:

Since the gun manufacturers have taken control of our society an increasing number of the U.S. population are expiring before their highschool or college graduations.

Actually, the rate of childhood homicide is about the same now as it was in 2000. The rate of childhood suicide, on the other hand, has nearly doubled since 2000.  In the late 2010s, childhood homicide deaths were lower than childhood suicide deaths.

But both are tragic.

Edited June 7, 2023 by Vegas_Millennial

[+ Vegas_Millennial]

22 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said:

Ah ! yes. A very good point.

Instagram culture has exaggerated the usual teenage social angst and busy parents who are never home with their kids anymore eliminated the normal emotional support system that older generations enjoyed.

And, while bullying was always present in school in some form, you used to be able to go home and forget about the bully until the next day.  Or, you could learn how to avoid that bully in the school hallways.  Now, that bully exists online 24/7, and there's no avoiding him or her no matter where you are.

Edited June 7, 2023 by Vegas_Millennial

[+ Vegas_Millennial]

15 minutes ago, SouthOfTheBorder said:

if supposedly this is all coming from south of the border, why aren’t the countries of origin experiencing similar use & overdoes deaths ? 

Because they can't afford to buy/consume the drugs themselves.

That's the problem/blessing of money.  It magnifies what someone already has/wants.  If someone has a great idea, money helps them perfect it and produce it for the rest of the world.  If someone is charitable, then money allows them to be even more giving and generous to others.  If someone has an alcohol or drug addiction, then the money will cause on early death because it allows that person access to kill themselves with more alcohol or drugs.

Edited June 7, 2023 by Vegas_Millennial

[SouthOfTheBorder]

1 hour ago, Boink said:

The drugs may be coming from south of the border, but to me the real problem is why is there so much DEMAND for them on this side of the border? 

Agree with the above

Interesting that the illegal drug argument places responsibility on the supply chain - yet the pro-gun argument places responsibility on the user & absolves the supply chain

Remember that guns don’t kill people ?  Well, the actual drugs don’t kill anyone either - until the morons take them

Americans are stupid - simple 

Next question would be why do Americans consume more drugs than anywhere else ?  What’s causing that ?  And it’s not the available supply.

Edited June 7, 2023 by SouthOfTheBorder

[+ Vegas_Millennial]

10 minutes ago, SouthOfTheBorder said:

I see - with all that personal responsibility & freedom comes the choice to consume illegal drugs that just might kill you.

Agree 💯

Perfectly well stated.  That's been my philosophy since I was a youth.

When I was a boy scout leader, I always taught that freedom and rights come with responsibility.  The right to vote comes with the responsibility to research the candidates before voting.  The right to a trial by jury means the responsibility of serving on jury duty.  The right to freedom of speech is the responsibility to be truthful.  The privilege to operate a motor vehicle comes with the responsibility to follow the posted regulations.  The freedom to choose to eat what you want, read what you want, and sleep with whom you want comes with the responsibility to take care of yourself physically and mentally and not to rely on others to take care of you for poor choices.  Etcetera.

Edited June 7, 2023 by Vegas_Millennial

[Xavitv]

1 hour ago, Lucky said:

Poor you. You added 5 pounds of fat. Why not add some compassion for the people fleeing harsh governments and severe poverty?

[SouthOfTheBorder]

and, of course the devil is in the details

see map showing highest per capita drug overdose deaths per capita

”border states” are not suffering highest rates of drug related deaths - so the unaffordable/affordable argument really doesn’t apply. They can afford the drugs in Texas but it’s not a thing

It’s more about states/regions where people are feeling despair, hopeless/helpless & looking for relief via drug use 

Edited June 7, 2023 by SouthOfTheBorder

[marylander1940]

Obesity! 

 

 

Edited June 7, 2023 by marylander1940

[marylander1940]

2 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

Let's not open THAT politically charged topic.

@sync point is unavoidable! Our culture of violence is part of  the reason why our life expectancy is declining and it's not just about shooting but about constant fear and uncertainty, feelings that are clearly related to mental healthcare, etc. 

[Rudynate]

2 hours ago, Vegas_Millennial said:

Could be true.  During that period of school shutdowns and virtual learning, the education level went down and will have likely affected an entire generation.

I was thinking more along these lines.

 

 

 

[marylander1940]

4 hours ago, Xavitv said:

Refugees apply for asylum and they are searched by border patrol. They don’t carry the drugs with them. 

I'm not surprised how the response to your post was heavily politicized. 

I agree with you, I don't think Americans would walk hundreds of miles for a free t-shirt, let alone for a better life! 

3 hours ago, Boink said:

The drugs may be coming from south of the border, but to me the real problem is why is there so much DEMAND for them on this side of the border?  If we'd stop buying, maybe they'd stop selling.

Some are... but we also produce them in the USA. 

Buy American!

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[pubic_assistance]

2 hours ago, marylander1940 said:

Some are... but we also produce them in the USA. 

Buy American!

Maybe I'm wrong but it tends to be Cocaine, Fentanyl and Heroin that is coming across the border from Mexico. Not meth.

Yes, the rednecks cook their own meth.

[marylander1940]

3 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said:

Maybe I'm wrong but it tends to be Cocaine, Fentanyl and Heroin that is coming across the border from Mexico. Not meth.

Yes, the rednecks cook their own meth.

Most rednecks DON'T look like that... 

Yes, meth is produced in the most sinful yet church going parts of the country, as I said in my previous quote, take a look at the map. 

2 hours ago, marylander1940 said:

I'm not surprised how the response to your post was heavily politicized. 

I agree with you, I don't think Americans would walk hundreds of miles for a free t-shirt, let alone for a better life! 

Some are... but we also produce them in the USA. 

Buy American!

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[pubic_assistance]

5 minutes ago, marylander1940 said:

meth is produced in the most sinful yet church going parts of the country,

I know a bit about that part of the country having grown up there.

The "church-going" people are merely geographically associated with the sinful redneck meth dealers.

Not one in the same.

[+ tassojunior]

Pretty sure it was covid. 

But the worst news is when life expectancy suddenly drops below your current age !

Edited June 8, 2023 by tassojunior

[+ José Soplanucas]

4 hours ago, Vegas_Millennial said:

Because they can't afford to buy/consume the drugs themselves.

This is not true. We do consume drugs across all social classes South of the Border at a meager price.

The US is suffering a severe case of anomie. I recommend you to take read of Le Suicide, by Emile Durkheim. It is outdated but surprisingly relevant.