Sensitive topic - race and rates

[marylander1940]

20 minutes ago, KensingtonHomo said:

Prejudice is also constantly judging people as "fat ugly and out of shape." I honestly don't care who you fuck as long as it's not me. 

You get dragged because you constantly put down providers and clients, who do not meet your exacting standards, which are de facto incredibly biased along race, class, ethnicity, etc. Not only do you want to fuck some incredibly tedious version of masculinity, but you think the rest of us should want that too. Worse, not only are you judgmental about who other people are fucking, you're incredibly thin-skinned when called on it. 

@pubic_assistance doesn't put down providers who "do not meet his exacting standards" he simply doesn't hire them. 

Tedious version of masculinity or desired version of masculinity is in the eye of the beholder. To each his own!

[aiseeya]

1 hour ago, KensingtonHomo said:

Prejudice is also constantly judging people as "fat ugly and out of shape." I honestly don't care who you fuck as long as it's not me. 

You get dragged because you constantly put down providers and clients, who do not meet your exacting standards, which are de facto incredibly biased along race, class, ethnicity, etc. Not only do you want to fuck some incredibly tedious version of masculinity, but you think the rest of us should want that too. Worse, not only are you judgmental about who other people are fucking, you're incredibly thin-skinned when called on it. 

No one is putting down providers and clients, well other than you. You are the one who constantly judging the way other ppl spend their monies and their choice of sexual partner. You seem to hold the believe that everyone should share your broad taste of men, and anyone who doesnt is a racist.

Me and some other fellow members simply hire who we want, we dont go around judging other's choice and preference. Its the truth that we dont hire ugly and fat providers, well nothing against them personally, we just dont want to pay $$$ to have sex with them. If you do, go ahead but dont force other ppl to do it also. Make it make sense.

[aiseeya]

5 hours ago, SouthOfTheBorder said:

YES !

YES & YES !

 

So you are also hiring bcs you have a specific needs 🤷‍♂️

[aiseeya]

5 hours ago, José Soplanucas said:

I do want to clarify one thing. Someone who does not hire or does not have sex with someone else because they are Black/White/fill the blank with your excluded ethnicity is not necessarily a Racist person, but has a Racist behavior on this point, whether or not they like it.                      

Oh well, i cant please everyone. So long as i dont go around hurting ppl - i do not consider me not paying $$ for sex with certain races equal to me inflicting hurt/ pain to such races - i couldnt give a flying fck what an extreme left woke thinks. 

I simply refuse to be forced to spend my monies to pay for sex with someone i dont like or attracted to. But if y'all want to pay then now this is a different story....venmo me will ya?

[aiseeya]

6 hours ago, KensingtonHomo said:

People hire for a variety of wants, needs and desires. For some people, it is to achieve their "dream fuck." I don't think such a thing exists so that's not my goal. 

We hire primarily for convenience. It's difficult as a couple, especially one past our partying days, to find the types of men we enjoy on the apps. We tend to be approached mostly by much younger (early 20s) twink-ish guys, who have a "Daddy" fantasy in person and on the apps. We did actually meet one young guy on Scruff who we had a few nice evenings with. But by hiring we spend our money to save time. We also avoid potential emotional entanglements. 

There you go. My needs = dream fuck hence translate to certain category of men. You needs = save time and avoid emotional entanglements hence has no certain physical criteria.

One can differ from the other, but all equally logical and real. I wouldnt go around judging you and your preference, and calling it 'i dont think such thing exists' just bcs it does not apply to you. Show very much on your characters really. 

[pubic_assistance]

8 hours ago, KensingtonHomo said:

Not only do you want to fuck some incredibly tedious version of masculinity, but you think the rest of us should want that too.

Your reading comprehension is non-existent if that's what you took from this conversation.

I literally said the OPPOSITE.

I think everyone should fuck who they want.

If toxic masculinity is your jam...go for it. No one should be judging people for what turns them on.

People will pay more to get what they want.

For some that's a hot white guy, for others ( me for example ) will find a dark skinned guy who sparks the right sexual memory.  Therefore no person of color has a reason to undersell himself on the market.

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[+ José Soplanucas]

6 hours ago, blck37 said:

Oh well, i cant please everyone. So long as i dont go around hurting ppl - i do not consider me not paying $$ for sex with certain races equal to me inflicting hurt/ pain to such races - i couldnt give a flying fck what an extreme left woke thinks. 

I simply refuse to be forced to spend my monies to pay for sex with someone i dont like or attracted to. But if y'all want to pay then now this is a different story....venmo me will ya?

So melodramatic. No, you are not hurting anyone. But if you do not hire Blacks, you have a Racist prejudice. Just as if you do not hire older guys, you have ageist discrimination, or if you do not hire fats, you have sizeist prejudice. 

This resistance to viewing our mindsets critically is dangerous. If we cannot accept our discriminatory prejudices on something as harmless as sexual preferences, I can imagine how we  move around on the rest of reality. 

[pubic_assistance]

1 minute ago, José Soplanucas said:

if you do not hire Blacks, you have a Racist prejudice.

And you think @blck37is being "melodramatic" ?

NO ONE is "racist" for having a type.

I call bullshit.

[+ José Soplanucas]

4 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said:

And you think @blck37is being "melodramatic" ?

NO ONE is "racist" for having a type.

I call bullshit.

I call, read more carefully what I wrote. I did not call anyone a Racist.

[pubic_assistance]

20 minutes ago, José Soplanucas said:

I did not call anyone a Racist.

You called EVERYONE racist if they don't fuck black men.

[+ José Soplanucas]

1 minute ago, pubic_assistance said:

You called EVERYONE racist if they don't fuck black men.

No, sir. I guess you think you are beyond racial discrimination, the product of the superior White parenting you enjoyed, as you bragged about.

Unlike you, I am not perfect and have several discriminatory tendencies I am working on. I have racist prejudices. I wish I were the Superior White Man you are.

But I am not a Racist, just as someone who does not hire Blacks may not be. 

[+ KensingtonHomo]

1 hour ago, pubic_assistance said:

Your reading comprehension is non-existent if that's what you took from this conversation.

I literally said the OPPOSITE.

I think everyone should fuck who they want.

 

My views are based on most of your output here, not this specific conversation. 

[+ KensingtonHomo]

7 hours ago, blck37 said:

i couldnt give a flying fck what an extreme left woke thinks. 

LOL - Thinking people should work to eliminate their racial prejudices is not "extreme left woke" but, hey, take your flowers for quoting Donald Trump. Very revealing. 

[pubic_assistance]

1 minute ago, José Soplanucas said:

6 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said:

You called EVERYONE racist if they don't fuck black men.

No, sir.

YOUR OWN WORDS : 
"if you do not hire Blacks, you have a Racist prejudice"

[+ José Soplanucas]

Just now, pubic_assistance said:

YOUR OWN WORDS : 
"if you do not hire Blacks, you have a Racist prejudice"

Exactly. There is a considerable jump between having a racist prejudice and being a Racist. I thought you were smarter. My apologies for overestimating you.

[pubic_assistance]

11 minutes ago, KensingtonHomo said:

My views are based on most of your output here, not this specific conversation. 

You quite specifically said that I think everyone should only fuck the same people that I like.

There is nothing about my posts on this site that ever would lead a normal person to draw that conclusion.

I have always pointed out that hiring is a matter *different strokes for different folks*.

If I am critical of a listing it's always stated as my opinion based on my preferences.

You are reading your own negative bias into my statements.

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[pubic_assistance]

3 minutes ago, José Soplanucas said:

There is a considerable jump between having a racist prejudice and being a Racist. I thought you were smarter.

is there ?
Why don't you enlighten us ?

Are you trying to compare "racist prejudice" as  racist-light  and "racism" as the greater evil ?
I don't speak this language. Doesn't make me not smart. Just unaware of this sort of grasping for straws.

[+ KensingtonHomo]

1 minute ago, pubic_assistance said:

If I am critical of a listing it's always stated as my opinion based on my preferences.

You are reading your own negative bias into my statements.

Girl, just go read your own responses here where you stated "fat and ugly people have to hire." That's a statement of fact, not opinion. 

You must be the least self-aware person on this forum. 

[marylander1940]

32 minutes ago, José Soplanucas said:

So melodramatic. No, you are not hurting anyone. But if you do not hire Blacks, you have a Racist prejudice. Just as if you do not hire older guys, you have ageist discrimination, or if you do not hire fats, you have sizeist prejudice. 

This resistance to viewing our mindsets critically is dangerous. If we cannot accept our discriminatory prejudices on something as harmless as sexual preferences, I can imagine how we  move around on the rest of reality. 

I think @blck37 simply is not attracted enough to pay for sex with some folks. Not everyone wants to hire a twink just like some won't hire a DILF even if he's as hot as Allen Silver or Jim Walker

 

Some folks dislike tattoos, body hair, certain body types, etc. 

I do agree with you that the issue of ethnicity is in a whole different category though. In the early 2000s I contacted someone on Manhunt and told him: I'm usually not attracted to gingers but I think you're very handsome. He automatically blocked me after saying he found my compliment insulting. 

[pubic_assistance]

17 minutes ago, KensingtonHomo said:

Girl, just go read your own responses here where you stated "fat and ugly people have to hire." That's a statement of fact, not opinion. 

You must be the least self-aware person on this forum. 

This discussion is about hiring.

And yes, that's a FACT: Fat - ugly people aren't listing on Rent.men.

I didn't CALL anyone fat or ugly.... THAT would have been my opinion. But I didn't do that.

and don't call me "girl".

If you want to be so "progressive" with your attitude, then you shouldn't be misgendering me.

Edited June 27, 2023 by pubic_assistance
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[+ KensingtonHomo]

3 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said:

Fat - ugly people aren't listing on Rent.men. What are you talking about ??

and don't call me "girl".

If you want to be so "progressive" with your attitude, then you shouldn't be misgendering me.

You can't even be consistent on a single thread. You're bobbing and weaving to avoid accountability for your statements. Tedious. 

I'm not a progressive or a liberal. And calling someone "girl", as in "girl, you're being a messy bitch", is not gendered. It's like the gay version of calling everyone "dude." Nice try though. 

[+ José Soplanucas]

31 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said:

is there ?
Why don't you enlighten us ?

Are you trying to compare "racist prejudice" as  racist-light  and "racism" as the greater evil ?
I don't speak this language. Doesn't make me not smart. Just unaware of this sort of grasping for straws.

Sorry, I did not have to dumb it down to that level, not even for my Sped students. 

[pubic_assistance]

11 minutes ago, KensingtonHomo said:

You can't even be consistent on a single thread. You're bobbing and weaving to avoid accountability for your statements. Tedious. 

I'm not a progressive or a liberal. And calling someone "girl", as in "girl, you're being a messy bitch", is not gendered. It's like the gay version of calling everyone "dude." Nice try though. 

Again.

The thread is about race and rates.

My opinion stands: EVERYONE SHOULD FUCK WHO THEY LIKE. You're not a bad person just because you don't fuck everything that moves.

PEOPLE OF COLOR ARE ALWAYS GOING TO BE SOMEBODY'S TYPE so no reason to charge less.

No bobbing and/or weaving. Just my opinion which you keep trying to misrepresent. So please stop, "dude".

 

[+ Vegas_Millennial]

15 hours ago, SouthOfTheBorder said:

my preference in men is anything but Northern/Central European. 

Thank you for your honesty in sharing your racial preference for sex.  You should but feel ashamed or forced or guilted into sleeping with someone you're not attracted to because others consider it racist to not hire white men.

[pubic_assistance]

3 minutes ago, José Soplanucas said:

Sorry, I did not have to dumb it down to that level, not even for my Sped students. 

That's still not an answer to the question.

Should I assume you don't have one ?

Pretend I'm a special ed student in social justice b.s.