Marc in Calif Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, tassojunior said: Otherwise it's mostly a Bangkok-centered site. But it does have political and health threads that are sane. Commenters respect both facts and evidence-based research. 😇 Edited March 11, 2023 by Marc in Calif + José Soplanucas and pubic_assistance 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ José Soplanucas Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 28 minutes ago, tassojunior said: Our famous 10-year Prague thread is over there somehow. And the Brazil thread. Otherwise it's mostly a Bangkok-centered site. Yep, since the merger with GayThailandia, Asia is hegemonic. A nice preview of our future, thinking of the broader international culture and economy. Still, there is plenty of information on Brazil, Colombia, Mexico, y Latin America in general. Marc in Calif and + Axiom2001 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubic_assistance Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Marc in Calif said: I think you meant to write this: "since the Politics forum was shut down." To the best of my knowledge, the two were concurrent. The quisling mobs from the echo-chamber of group-think were annoying in places other than the Politics forum. So it's been quite nice to have normal conversations with people without the constant interruptions from the "my way or the highway crowd". + augustus and + BOZO T CLOWN 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc in Calif Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 (edited) 46 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said: The quisling mobs from the echo-chamber of group-think were annoying in places other than the Politics forum. So it's been quite nice to have normal conversations with people without the constant interruptions from the "my way or the highway crowd". Yes, indeed! Yet some of them are still annoying when they deliberately draw false conclusions about very simple scientific information. But isn't it nice not to have literal clowns trying to dumb down every topic with loony tunes conspiracy theories? I'm happy they were banned. Edited March 11, 2023 by Marc in Calif + augustus and + BOZO T CLOWN 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ azdr0710 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 (edited) trying to keep this politics-free..... mention was made upthread about the somewhat-parallel history of this forum (COM) and the forum now called gayguides......I'm not an insider, but can offer some comment from what I've learned for those interested in the history and for those newer to all this......others here in the forum know a lot more than me about the various personalities involved and are much-invited to correct any mistake I make here! way back in "hooboy" days (pre-2006 or so), there was just one primary forum about providers (escorts).....hooboy started a website about 1999 called something like "male4maleescorts" because of his great interest in the subject and his desire to help others who dabbled in the hobby....in the early 2000s, hooboy was notorious for repeatedly losing his laptop while globetrotting, but was obsessed with getting the daily provider reviews posted on time......what is now the current COM forum you're at right now was also alive and well in those early "hooboy" days and had lively discussion and a host of charismatic posters (as we have today!).....at one point, I believe hooboy broke off political discussion into its own subforum to unclog the primary discussion forum...... hooboy died about 2006 and two of his techie IT-ish guys, believing in the "mission", vied to carry the site on.......there was something of a minor estate battle involving the "value" of the site between hooboy's real-life heirs and these two IT guys.....one of the two IT guys ("totallyoz" at gayguides) eventually created a site called, I think, "maleescortreview" (?) and the other IT guy ("daddy", who died in early 2021) created "daddysreviews" which has descended into this forum......both had/have popular forums and reviews......many here in the daddysreviews/COM forum famously referred only to the "other site" (avoiding mention of its real name) because "daddy" and "totallyoz" didn't get along in some way after hooboy's death......various forum members have come and gone, some joining both sites along the way (sometimes even with different handles!!) and occasionally offering vigorous commentary on the pros and cons of each site!.......of course, there are also many who join only one site or the other and have no interest in, or knowledge of, "the other site"...... possibly because of financial or marketing concerns, "totallyoz" of the "other site" eventually merged with larger messageboard hosting services (yuku and one or two others) and what is now called "gayguides" resulted.......as suggested upthread, it has become very much the leader of the two sites in international destination discussion of providers/sex work because, in part, totallyoz, I believe, lives overseas and because many of its forum members are only interested in those destinations..... I think I have most of this correct......corrections or additions invited! Edited March 11, 2023 by azdr0710 BtmBearDad, + Lucky, + Axiom2001 and 11 others 3 5 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BtmBearDad Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 28 minutes ago, azdr0710 said: trying to keep this politics-free..... mention was made upthread about the somewhat-parallel history of this forum (COM) and the forum now called gayguides......I'm not an insider, but can offer some comment from what I've learned for those interested in the history and for those newer to all this......others here in the forum know a lot more than me about the various personalities involved and are much-invited to correct any mistake I make here! way back in "hooboy" days (pre-2006 or so), there was just one primary forum about providers (escorts).....hooboy started a website about 1999 called something like "male4maleescorts" because of his great interest in the subject and his desire to help others who dabbled in the hobby....back in the early 2000s, hooboy was notorious for repeatedly losing his laptop (!) while globetrotting, but was obsessed with getting the daily provider reviews posted on time......what is now the current COM forum you're at right now was also alive and well in those early "hooboy" days and had lively discussion and a host of charismatic posters (as we have today!).....at one point, I believe hooboy broke off political discussion into its own subforum to unclog the primary discussion forum...... hooboy died about 2006 and two of his techie IT-ish guys, believing in the "mission", vied to carry the site on.......there was something of a minor estate battle involving the "value" of the site between hooboy's real-life heirs and these two IT guys.....one of the two IT guys ("totallyoz" at gayguides) eventually created a site called, I think, "maleescortreview" (?) and the other IT guy ("daddy", who died in early 2021) created "daddysreviews" which has descended into this forum......both had/have popular forums and reviews......many here in the daddysreviews/COM forum famously referred only to the "other site" (avoiding mention of its real name) because "daddy" and "totallyoz" didn't get along in some way after hooboy's death......various forum members have come and gone, some joining both sites along the way (sometimes even with different handles!!) and occasionally offering vigorous commentary on the pros and cons of each site!.......of course, there are also many who join only one site or the other and have no interest in, or knowledge of, "the other site"...... possibly because of financial or marketing concerns, "totallyoz" of the "other site" eventually merged with larger messageboard hosting services (yuku and one or two others) and what is now called "gayguides" resulted.......as suggested upthread, it has become very much the leader of the two sites in international destination discussion of providers/sex work because, in part, totallyoz, I believe, lives overseas and because many of its forum members are only interested in those destinations..... I think I have most of this correct......corrections or additions invited! AZ - not an “insider” at all either, but been around these forums since the HooBoy days, and your succinct summary is how I remember things playing out 👍🏻 I do remember another site too - “toyboy” or “boytoy” or something like that. I remember I was looking on here for info about a specific European destination, and another forum member suggested via PM that I try there. I did, and as I remember the site was lousy with vitriol directed at this site, those running it, those on it, etc., and the posters made DataLounge seem like a bunch of church ladies 🤣 + azdr0710, + Axiom2001, + José Soplanucas and 1 other 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ José Soplanucas Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, BtmBearDad said: AZ - not an “insider” at all either, but been around these forums since the HooBoy days, and your succinct summary is how I remember things playing out 👍🏻 I do remember another site too - “toyboy” or “boytoy” or something like that. I remember I was looking on here for info about a specific European destination, and another forum member suggested via PM that I try there. I did, and as I remember the site was lousy with vitriol directed at this site, those running it, those on it, etc., and the posters made DataLounge seem like a bunch of church ladies 🤣 Boytoy is Gayguides before the merger with the Asian forums. During Daddy's regency, posters banned here would shelter over there and spit their unhappiness. It still happens. Edited March 11, 2023 by José Soplanucas Marc in Calif, BtmBearDad, KinkyNEguy and 3 others 1 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormy Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 4 hours ago, José Soplanucas said: I just posted something just to double-check. I did not need any approval. Maybe they made me wait since it was my first post + José Soplanucas and Lookin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ Tarte Gogo Posted March 11, 2023 Author Share Posted March 11, 2023 (edited) It is easy to ignore the drama, and not contribute to it. i just stick to reading posts on both sites that are informative and factual about the only subject that matters to me: “Fantastic Escorts and where to find them”. Edited March 11, 2023 by Tarte Gogo + José Soplanucas, + tassojunior, thomas and 6 others 5 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ José Soplanucas Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 11 minutes ago, Stormy said: Maybe they made me wait since it was my first post Oh! You may be right. I did not know that to access some forums; you need to have a certain number of posts. I did not realize the Politics forum was under that restriction. Lookin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubic_assistance Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 7 minutes ago, Tarte Gogo said: It is easy to ignore the drama, and not contribute to it. I agree. Everyone is allowed an opinion. Some people just don't know how to disagree without it turning ugly. No point in "discussing" any topic if you are subject to GROUP-THINK and expect everyone to agree. + BOZO T CLOWN, + augustus and + glennnnn 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc in Calif Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 3 hours ago, pubic_assistance said: Everyone is allowed an opinion. Of course! Opinions are what make this forum go 'round. But deliberate misstatements of facts are not opinions. They are falsifications. I guess one might also call them lies. + Lucky, + BOZO T CLOWN, thomas and 1 other 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 And freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom to defraud, slander, or incite criminal activity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ Lucky Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 Just for the record, Totally Oz attended the Palm Springs Weekend a few years ago, and he and Daddy conversed amicably. Any tension between them seemed to have dissipated once the Hooboy estate issues resolved. At least, that's how I saw it. pubic_assistance, rvwnsd, + azdr0710 and 2 others 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubic_assistance Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 8 hours ago, Unicorn said: And freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom to defraud, slander, or incite criminal activity. Yet freedom of speech seems to allow people to falsely accuse others of fraud, slander and criminal activity. Accusation has become a weapon in Social Media group-think truth bending. + augustus, Marc in Calif and + BOZO T CLOWN 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luv2play Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 The things I appreciate about this forum are when members are willing to share their experiences in the hobby most of us share in common; that they do so in a civil way when expressing opinions, and that they engage in intelligent conversations. I can do without the drama and when I see things going that way I tend to withdraw. I must admit there was a lot of drama in the politics forum. Just as in real life I suppose. + Tarte Gogo and pubic_assistance 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ BenjaminNicholas Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 19 hours ago, azdr0710 said: trying to keep this politics-free..... mention was made upthread about the somewhat-parallel history of this forum (COM) and the forum now called gayguides......I'm not an insider, but can offer some comment from what I've learned for those interested in the history and for those newer to all this......others here in the forum know a lot more than me about the various personalities involved and are much-invited to correct any mistake I make here! way back in "hooboy" days (pre-2006 or so), there was just one primary forum about providers (escorts).....hooboy started a website about 1999 called something like "male4maleescorts" because of his great interest in the subject and his desire to help others who dabbled in the hobby....in the early 2000s, hooboy was notorious for repeatedly losing his laptop while globetrotting, but was obsessed with getting the daily provider reviews posted on time......what is now the current COM forum you're at right now was also alive and well in those early "hooboy" days and had lively discussion and a host of charismatic posters (as we have today!).....at one point, I believe hooboy broke off political discussion into its own subforum to unclog the primary discussion forum...... hooboy died about 2006 and two of his techie IT-ish guys, believing in the "mission", vied to carry the site on.......there was something of a minor estate battle involving the "value" of the site between hooboy's real-life heirs and these two IT guys.....one of the two IT guys ("totallyoz" at gayguides) eventually created a site called, I think, "maleescortreview" (?) and the other IT guy ("daddy", who died in early 2021) created "daddysreviews" which has descended into this forum......both had/have popular forums and reviews......many here in the daddysreviews/COM forum famously referred only to the "other site" (avoiding mention of its real name) because "daddy" and "totallyoz" didn't get along in some way after hooboy's death......various forum members have come and gone, some joining both sites along the way (sometimes even with different handles!!) and occasionally offering vigorous commentary on the pros and cons of each site!.......of course, there are also many who join only one site or the other and have no interest in, or knowledge of, "the other site"...... possibly because of financial or marketing concerns, "totallyoz" of the "other site" eventually merged with larger messageboard hosting services (yuku and one or two others) and what is now called "gayguides" resulted.......as suggested upthread, it has become very much the leader of the two sites in international destination discussion of providers/sex work because, in part, totallyoz, I believe, lives overseas and because many of its forum members are only interested in those destinations..... I think I have most of this correct......corrections or additions invited! Just a couple of corrections: HB started the site from multiple late-night brainstorm sessions with then-escort Aaron Lawrence. Aaron is a smart guy who understands gaps in markets and he saw a review site as something that didn't exist and was needed. HB agreed. The message board became the branch off and both were wildly popular, with very strong daily internet traffic. That traffic is what allowed the site to financially self-support from ads and sponsored content. When HB died, his family had zero clue about this side of his life. It was tough for his mother, who was still alive. She was pretty 'old school' and when she found everything out, she was adamant about just shutting it all down. It was her prerogative. I can't blame her for wanting closure. It was absolutely devastating to her. thomas, + José Soplanucas, + azdr0710 and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubic_assistance Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Luv2play said: I can do without the drama and when I see things going that way I tend to withdraw. I must admit there was a lot of drama in the politics forum. Just as in real life I suppose. The politics forum was probably as heated as any political discussions are these days. There is much disagreement over social issues in the US..and these social issues are being used by political activists. People are passionate about issues that affect their life, and to a degree sometimes their passion selfishly undermines the personal priorities and passions of the other-side-of-the-aisle ...so they look to bully people into believing their side is "right" and the other side is "wrong". More than "drama", I think bullying is what most people experienced when people can't find that their personal opinions are shared by everyone in the group. The drama ensues once their discomfort turns to name calling. I miss hearing the different perspectives on fhe current tectonic shifts in American society but I certainly don't miss the childish name calling that I experienced here. I am told some of the members who were banned here have gathered their toys and moved over to Gayguides.com. Now gleefully trashing THIS forum on THAT forum because they couldn't get everyone to agree with their opinions. Edited March 12, 2023 by pubic_assistance grammar Marc in Calif and + augustus 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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+ José Soplanucas Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 3 hours ago, Lucky said: Just for the record, Totally Oz attended the Palm Springs Weekend a few years ago, and he and Daddy conversed amicably. Any tension between them seemed to have dissipated once the Hooboy estate issues resolved. At least, that's how I saw it. Absolutely. The only ones interested on the beef between both sites are the disgruntled ones banned from here and the crazies from here who still survive and are nostalgic of a place to spread their bigotry. Marc in Calif, + augustus, + Lucky and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ Axiom2001 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 20 hours ago, Tarte Gogo said: It is easy to ignore the drama, and not contribute to it. i just stick to reading posts on both sites that are informative and factual about the only subject that matters to me: “Fantastic Escorts and where to find them”. Here! Here! I've been at both sites for a good while. ...became a member of the former "BoyToy" now "GayGuides" at its inception and am mighty glad that I NEVER participated in all of the unnecessary disagreements and overall foolishness. To this date, I am the better for it and continue to view, read and write. + Tarte Gogo, liubit, Marc in Calif and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ José Soplanucas Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 2 hours ago, Axiom2001 said: Here! Here! I've been at both sites for a good while. ...became a member of the former "BoyToy" now "GayGuides" at its inception and am mighty glad that I NEVER participated in all of the unnecessary disagreements and overall foolishness. To this date, I am the better for it and continue to view, read and write. You are not the only one. Several members participate in both sites, in a few cases even with the same nom de plume. They did not allow me to change my screen name, as in here, so I am still latberar4blk over there. One of the legendary members who kept a high profile on both communities was @AdamSmith until he was permanently banned by Daddy here (according to Adam). After that, Adam stayed only in BoyToy. Even today, he is among the top five contributors of all time over there when he has been dead for more than two years, taken by the pandemic. When I was a newbie here, and I would mention Boytoy, veteran members would reach out to me through PM to warn me that I was risking getting in trouble with Daddy. They told me we could use the euphemism "the other site" but never mention the name or link to Boytoy. However, Daddy never confronted me. Very often, members banned by Daddy would go over there to bitch about the state of things here. TotallyOz (Boytoy's owner) would get upset and send the thread to the Sandbox. For those curious and with Historian's hearts, you may be interested in researching that folder over there. For instance, you would find several threads about the infamous scandal around Escort of the Year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 7 hours ago, pubic_assistance said: Yet freedom of speech seems to allow people to falsely accuse others of fraud, slander and criminal activity... I agree that this is a problem. Accusations are easy; defending from them much more difficult. The Duke Lacrosse case always comes to mind. I would certainly support stronger punishments for false accusations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SouthOfTheBorder Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 On 3/12/2023 at 6:28 PM, José Soplanucas said: Several members participate in both sites, in a few cases even with the same nom de plume. evidently - something went down at “the other site” resulting in several members banned permanently Now they seem to be here exclusively- ugh SirBillybob and + BOZO T CLOWN 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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