pubic_assistance Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 29 minutes ago, Cliff said: I think it’s reasonable to pay a very small deposit to show good faith. Seriously ? There are far too many scammers in the business who make money by collecting deposits and never showing up. NEVER pay a deposit to book ..would be MY advice. Sorry HoseMaster, peter831, EastbayMike and 11 others 8 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 20 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said: Seriously ? There are far too many scammers in the business who make money by collecting deposits and never showing up. NEVER pay a deposit to book ..would be MY advice. Sorry No need to be sorry. What you’ve said makes sense. Whippoorwill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 On 11/6/2021 at 12:14 PM, carp86 said: No, it doesn't. It was my first time using Zelle and I was also annoyed at that. In Venmo I only use my initials, and all transactions are set to private. I had my Settings set to “private” but thanks to your great tip, I’ve changed my name to my initials. Thank you! carp86 and Cruiser7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaboom35 Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 14 hours ago, Trick said: Have you ever walked out on an appointment because the provider asked for the money upfront? I always just pay up. Yes I have. Although that wasn’t the sole reason. I was going through a personal crisis and hired a well reviewed escort to take my mind off things. He was the nicest guy and absolutely stunning. I couldn’t take my mind off my personal issues and realized I didn’t want to be there but was going to try and force myself. After 5 minutes of initial greeting he asked for my payment up front and this really through me for a loop because I didn’t read any reviews of this guy asking other clients this nor discussed beforehand. Despite his charm and beauty I found it off putting - or maybe I was looking for a reason to leave because I wasn’t horny at all and my mind was elsewhere. I paid him but then told him I had to leave. He seemed shocked and tried to convince me to stay - even though he already had my money. I explained my heart and mind wasn’t into it and he was extremely respectful even though I sensed he thought I wasn’t into him sexually which wasn’t the case at all. Someday I still want to meet with him as he seems to still be getting great reviews but I no longer live in his city. We shall see. Based on my short time in his place he was courteous, sexy as hell, and wanted to make me comfortable so I’ll never say a bad thing about him on these boards despite being asked for payment ahead of time. HoseMaster and thickornotatall 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ Pensant Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 I always have a phone conversation before meeting a new provider. Most of them appreciate it. It establishes a little rapport unavailable using SMS only. Whippoorwill, pubic_assistance, + glutes and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ keroscenefire Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 I think the main caveat should always be to go into it with reasonable expectations. I don't always get 100% of what I want from every session, but I don't let that upset me. These guys are human beings and things do happen. Whippoorwill, Hlparx and + azdr0710 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xyz48B Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 @Cliff– I’ve been burnt. Fool me once; shame on you. Fool me twice; shame on me. I won’t have it happen again. And it’s worked just for me to find alternative ways to satisfy the deposit need. And if that’s a no-go, then just like he won’t meet me without a deposit, I won’t meet him if it’s required. Business is business. I don’t owe him anything anymore than be owes me anything. Luvfurrytops, Cliff, coriolis888 and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 11 minutes ago, xyz48B said: @Cliff– I’ve been burnt. Fool me once; shame on you. Fool me twice; shame on me. I won’t have it happen again. And it’s worked just for me to find alternative ways to satisfy the deposit need. And if that’s a no-go, then just like he won’t meet me without a deposit, I won’t meet him if it’s required. Business is business. I don’t owe him anything anymore than be owes me anything. Makes sense. Thanks for sharing your perspective and experience, xyz. 🙂 xyz48B 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xyz48B Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 @kaboom35– That’s a sad story. Sorry. 😢 I wonder… Is there a difference between paying before you meet and as soon as you meet? When I meet a new guy, I usually pay cash. For various reasons. The most obvious being it’s the “safest” for both of us til we both know each other aren’t whackos. But even when I do that, I explain that the payment will be in an envelope, clearly visible, with his name written on it. Before we meet, I text him a picture of the envelope showing what it looks like. Before we meet, I tell him he’s free to count it then or whatever, but I don’t want to talk money once he’s there. That’s worked well for me for first encounters. I haven’t had a guy rush over to count it while I wait. And we don’t have to talk about money during our time together. ekoile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ azdr0710 Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 on very rare occasions, I'll leave a note in the middle of my living room floor with all the pertinent information.... that way, when my friends come and break in after I don't answer calls or texts, they'll know what happened to me and who did it.... + Pensant, coriolis888, Pd1_jap and 4 others 3 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xyz48B Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 24 minutes ago, azdr0710 said: on very rare occasions, I'll leave a note in the middle of my living room floor with all the pertinent information.... that way, when my friends come and break in after I don't answer calls or texts, they'll know what happened to me and who did it.... You mean…like…a note explaining in case the “unthinkable” happens? coriolis888, + azdr0710, + keroscenefire and 1 other 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tenderloin Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 On 11/6/2021 at 1:22 PM, MscleLovr said: I also insisted on checking the two of us were compatible by saying how limited my skills in bed were (“I’m only a top, and I’m selfish and lazy”) and saying precisely what I enjoy (“I need you to suck me off to completion”). Bingo. For me, there are certain things that have to happen in order for me to enjoy: We gotta really kiss, I need to get into his ass, and he needs to cum. And hopefully, he will at least appear to be into it. I have twice paid guys half the rate and sent them packing when they clearly weren't into honoring what they had agreed (i.e., turning their heads instead of kissing, or refusing to open open up down below). I've given them half their fees and told them to leave. Neither was happy but they left (it helps that I'm tall and "burly"). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ Pensant Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 7 hours ago, xyz48B said: @kaboom35– That’s a sad story. Sorry. 😢 I wonder… Is there a difference between paying before you meet and as soon as you meet? When I meet a new guy, I usually pay cash. For various reasons. The most obvious being it’s the “safest” for both of us til we both know each other aren’t whackos. But even when I do that, I explain that the payment will be in an envelope, clearly visible, with his name written on it. Before we meet, I text him a picture of the envelope showing what it looks like. Before we meet, I tell him he’s free to count it then or whatever, but I don’t want to talk money once he’s there. That’s worked well for me for first encounters. I haven’t had a guy rush over to count it while I wait. And we don’t have to talk about money during our time together. I’m by no means a novice with this hobby; but I’ve never encountered this behavior from providers. If they’re regulars (10+ nights/sessions together) and I trust them, Zelle. For the rest, a stack on the counter, clearly visible, has always allayed any concerns they may have had and obviates the need to discuss such vulgar matter$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xyz48B Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Pensant said: I’m by no means a novice with this hobby; but I’ve never encountered this behavior from providers. It’s worked for me on more than one occasion. 🤷🏼♂️ Just sharing my opinion, experience, and solicited advice. Edited February 7, 2022 by xyz48B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xyz48B Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 2 hours ago, xyz48B said: You mean…like…a note explaining in case the “unthinkable” happens? I had myself so wigged out over my first hire. I was sure he was going to murder me. I had friends – plural – ready to get text messages from me after I picked him up from the airport to make sure I was still alive. Now I don’t tell anyone that I’m meeting up. I guess I’ve gotten more comfortable. I hope not too comfortable… + azdr0710 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robberbaron4u Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 If the "hire" presents as crazy and deranged, most probably he is. !!!RUN!!! + glutes, + ButchAtl and Whippoorwill 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TylerInTexas Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 As a rather newbie to hiring, this thread is of great value. Dr.Daddy and Cruiser7 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaboom35 Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 7 hours ago, robberbaron4u said: If the "hire" presents as crazy and deranged, most probably he is. !!!RUN!!! Ooh I did this with a NY escort I hired. He seem cool chatting and setting the appointment but once I stepped in his apartment I got a horrible vibe from him that he we was high or doing hard drugs. He excused himself to his bathroom before we “got started” and he was taking a LONG time in the bathroom. it was bizarre. The longer I waited for him to come out of the bathroom the more paranoid I became. After 10 minutes of him in the bathroom, I decided to leave quick, which I did, ran out of his place and down the street as quickly as I could in case he would attempt to come after me. Immediately blocked his number so he couldn’t send a follow up text. To this day I wonder if he came out of the bathroom sooner what would’ve happened. BSR, marylander1940 and HoseMaster 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ glutes Posted February 9, 2022 Author Share Posted February 9, 2022 (edited) Here is a tip sheet from Tinder on how to avoid romance scammers, applicable to us: https://www.tinderpressroom.com/Romance-Scams-How-to-Protect-Yourself-Online HOW TO PROTECT YOURSELF FROM SCAMS Beyond spotting a scammer in action, there are a number of things you can do to take control or vour safety and protect vourselt trom a scam. #1. TRUST YOUR GUT. Your intuition is your best wingman. Alwavs use your best judgment, and if something doesn't feel right, report ! Edited February 9, 2022 by glutes + keroscenefire and Whippoorwill 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ keroscenefire Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Another caveat I just thought of and relates to my personal experience. I will now not meet with any guy who refuses to meet me in public first. It's actually happened to me a few times where I was supposed to just come up to his hotel room or apartment or whatever only to encounter some type of security that prevents me from doing so. In one instance, I was actually escorted by a security guard off the property because the guy refused to meet me in the lobby and I couldn't explain who I was trying to visit. Now I am just explicit whenever I am travelling to a provider. I need you to meet me in the lobby or even preferably on the sidewalk outside the building. + glutes, claym, marylander1940 and 1 other 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amel.tahmid Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Anyone with any horror stories, blackmailing, secret cameras, or troubles with law enforcement for hiring an escort for time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gdrake Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 I once had an counter with a young guy off Grindr, who asked for a little cash after, and then stopped me a few weeks later for a busted taillight - he was completely smooth about it and when it brought my license, registration, and verbal warning, he also said that that enjoyed having be along for his night shift last time. I miss him. Your Man in Arlington, pubic_assistance, Whippoorwill and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 PNP liubit, pubic_assistance, Whippoorwill and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pd1_jap Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 1 hour ago, amel.tahmid said: Anyone with any horror stories, blackmailing, secret cameras, or troubles with law enforcement for hiring an escort for time? I once hired a guy off of RM and when he showed up, he was still handsome but, was not the guy in the photos. I should have turned him away right there. Then he asked for the cash upfront and naively I have it to him. He then stated that even a massage would be extra on top of the 300 I already gave him. That's when I told him to GTFO ! Afterwards he tried black mailing me, saying he would go to the police. I blocked him and reported the ad. amel.tahmid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ azdr0710 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 (edited) though many here are entirely comfortable hosting even first-timers in their own home and have had no problems ever, I've never done that......only once did I have a provider come to my house - and that was a longtime regular who was passing thru town and I said stop by for coffee (and it was only for coffee, perverts) Edited January 23 by azdr0710 amel.tahmid, BaronArtz, Marc in Calif and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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