Jarrod_Uncut Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 (edited) I’m hoping I can say this in a way that doesn’t sound like I’m complaining, because I’m not. Don’t get me wrong, I enjoy traveling and going on “tour” complete with travel dates. It’s also a great way to expand and meet new clients. I’m actually on tour this week as I speak lol. Today makes a week that I’ve been “on the road” However, I’ve been doing the travel circuit for years. Some cities I’ve gone to over and over. I’m almost getting to a point where I’m losing the appeal of going to travel to cities, especially if I don’t have a specific friend, overnight booking or work project to tend to. It used to be, I’d have an idea to just go to a city, just name a City and go: But lately, I find the preparation and planning part induces a hint of anxiety, and if things seem like they aren’t going to go right, I’ll postpone or cancel it. Not to mention, the biggest factor is ensuring people will show for their appointments, and as been said over and over, half the time these guys don’t show up. And it’s because of stuff like that, even if I may want to continue the tour and head to another city, by the time I’ve had so many flakes, my spirits are down and I just want to go home and do nothing for a couple of days lol. That said, I don’t know if it’s really possible to not travel in this biz, unless you in a high traffic market or just doing it seldom on the side. Like in Kansas City, the biz is there but it’s hardly sustainable week after week. It’ll be busy 1 week, then slow for 2 or 3 weeks. And like I said in another thread, they hardly ever book anything with sufficient notice there. After dealing with that shit for few weeks, I be more eager to travel again than families after a stay at home order 😄 Edited September 1, 2021 by Jarrod_Uncut marylander1940 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloKyle Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 You aren't allowed to not travel anymore until you visit Buffalo! 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarrod_Uncut Posted September 1, 2021 Author Share Posted September 1, 2021 7 minutes ago, BuffaloKyle said: You aren't allowed to not travel anymore until you visit Buffalo! 🤣 I do want to get to the northeast! My friends went to Pittsburgh earlier this month, and it woulda been a good way to tour over to buffalo. But alas, I didn't receive a memo. Maybe September will be the month...I need to do my annual D.C. trip as well. Didn't make it last year. BuffaloKyle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ JEC Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 8 hours ago, Jarrod_Uncut said: I do want to get to the northeast! My friends went to Pittsburgh earlier this month, and it woulda been a good way to tour over to buffalo. But alas, I didn't receive a memo. Maybe September will be the month...I need to do my annual D.C. trip as well. Didn't make it last year. Add Boston to that list Jarrod_Uncut and craigville beach 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeezifonly Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 Save your favorite airplane neck pillow, @Jarrod_Uncut Go East young man! Make your regular cities feel your absence. They’ll welcome you back with open …everything. And music! Jarrod_Uncut 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloKyle Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 Ok so the east coast travel schedule will be Buff - Pitt - DC - NYC - Boston. We're setting it up for you Jarrod! 😁 Jarrod_Uncut 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ JEC Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 Boston-NYC-DC you should definitely plan on traveling by train, part of the charm of the Northeast corridor After the flood waters recede that is 🙄 Luv2play and Jarrod_Uncut 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm4U Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 (edited) I actually commented about this on another post. I do not travel. The only exception is if 1 client is flying me to their location which I am totally okay with, but I do not tour like a lot of companions and masseurs do, because just like you touched on in your post, traveling would begin to feel like work, and I want traveling to remain an enjoyable pastime for myself. Edited September 2, 2021 by Storm4U Jarrod_Uncut and + BenjaminNicholas 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie21 Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 I don’t travel. No need, London is busy enough. Jarrod_Uncut 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarrod_Uncut Posted September 6, 2021 Author Share Posted September 6, 2021 On 9/2/2021 at 4:14 PM, Storm4U said: I actually commented about this on another post. I do not travel. The only exception is if 1 client is flying me to their location which I am totally okay with, but I do not tour like a lot of companions and masseurs do, because just like you touched on in your post, traveling would begin to feel like work, and I want traveling to remain an enjoyable pastime for myself. Oddly enough, it’s not so much that it feels like work…but the things surrounding it certainly takes the fun out of it. Just dealing with hotels (recently booked a hotel for 2 days, only to find out there was no breakfast, and the “1 bedroom suite” only had 1 TV with very limited channels, which was only viewable while sitting on the bed 🤦🏽♂️ And then having to figure out restaurants and not always having company when going. Add to that, the opportunity to meet new guys outside is clients is abundant and even easy, but at the end of the day, you can only invest in that person so much considering you may be gone the next day or 2, and you might catch each other if both available. It’s just a lot. Like touring is fun and the money can def be worth it, but it’s just too much work. Not even talking about clients. Because I can literally go from my bed, to my car, to a client’s or hotel bed after traveling for 8 hours. That’s easy. But what’s hard is, what am I going to do for those remaining 16 hours 🤷🏾♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarrod_Uncut Posted September 6, 2021 Author Share Posted September 6, 2021 On 9/2/2021 at 9:47 AM, BuffaloKyle said: Ok so the east coast travel schedule will be Buff - Pitt - DC - NYC - Boston. We're setting it up for you Jarrod! 😁 Sounds fun! It’s been awhile since I’ve done Pittsburgh and DC, NYC I’ve not done at all and Boston it’s been awhile too. I’ll have to assess the markets and see BuffaloKyle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ JEC Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 From a client perspective, there are 2 types of traveling providers I am interested in. First, the "new meat", that is anyone who is visiting in town who I am interested in. This is very likely a one-time connection. Living in Boston (and I assume most smaller cities) the local talent is limited, therefore this variety is welcome. There are plenty of these, many come thru town once and are not seen again. Second, the regular. There are a few providers who do a regular circuit. Victor Powers used to (before his retirement) fit this description. He visited basically quarterly and I was happy to see him every time he came. He often txt'd me before his visit to let me know he was coming into town (he was very organized and smart about his business). Many of his repeat clients would book overnights or weekends as part of his trip. He would also occasionally txt between visits just to say "hey, thinking of you". He BUILT these relationships, and was good at it. As a provider I suspect the first scenario (random travel to a bunch of places) probably produces some quick cash (new meat) but may not produce long-term results. The second scenario is more likely to produce lasting repeat clients (and revenue). These 2 scenarios are not exclusive, if you build those repeat clients you will still have plenty of one-time connections. Point is, the one-time connections will "dry up" quickly after a few visits. Given your stated concerns and preferences, maybe it would make sense to identify a handful of cities, try to make a quarterly circuit and build some repeat clients. This would allow you to actually get to know each city, some of your clients, and also make some friends who you would feel like you could build a more lasting connection with, and hotels you get to know and start to feel like "home". You may also find you prefer staying in apartments or AIRBNB's as I do when I travel - feels more like home. I personally enjoy travel and especially enjoy it when I have the invest the time to learn my way around, explore local culture, figure out where the cool neighborhoods, restaurants and sights are. Like many things it will take work to make this experience work, some planning, cultivating those repeat clients (meaning, reaching out to them proactively). If you put the time and effort in you will likely see the results, and enjoy the experience more. Good luck, and if you come to Boston HMU 😉 Jack Jarrod_Uncut and mike carey 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarrod_Uncut Posted September 9, 2021 Author Share Posted September 9, 2021 (edited) On 9/6/2021 at 5:59 AM, JEC said: From a client perspective, there are 2 types of traveling providers I am interested in. First, the "new meat", that is anyone who is visiting in town who I am interested in. This is very likely a one-time connection. Living in Boston (and I assume most smaller cities) the local talent is limited, therefore this variety is welcome. There are plenty of these, many come thru town once and are not seen again. Second, the regular. There are a few providers who do a regular circuit. Victor Powers used to (before his retirement) fit this description. He visited basically quarterly and I was happy to see him every time he came. He often txt'd me before his visit to let me know he was coming into town (he was very organized and smart about his business). Many of his repeat clients would book overnights or weekends as part of his trip. He would also occasionally txt between visits just to say "hey, thinking of you". He BUILT these relationships, and was good at it. As a provider I suspect the first scenario (random travel to a bunch of places) probably produces some quick cash (new meat) but may not produce long-term results. The second scenario is more likely to produce lasting repeat clients (and revenue). These 2 scenarios are not exclusive, if you build those repeat clients you will still have plenty of one-time connections. Point is, the one-time connections will "dry up" quickly after a few visits. Given your stated concerns and preferences, maybe it would make sense to identify a handful of cities, try to make a quarterly circuit and build some repeat clients. This would allow you to actually get to know each city, some of your clients, and also make some friends who you would feel like you could build a more lasting connection with, and hotels you get to know and start to feel like "home". You may also find you prefer staying in apartments or AIRBNB's as I do when I travel - feels more like home. I personally enjoy travel and especially enjoy it when I have the invest the time to learn my way around, explore local culture, figure out where the cool neighborhoods, restaurants and sights are. Like many things it will take work to make this experience work, some planning, cultivating those repeat clients (meaning, reaching out to them proactively). If you put the time and effort in you will likely see the results, and enjoy the experience more. Good luck, and if you come to Boston HMU 😉 Jack Good points you made, definitely. It is a good strategy to reach out to clients letting them know I'm coming, which I usually always do. Or I'll follow up with previous hits just to remind them. It doesn't always work though, schedule conflicts and general stuff. I have to say: my last tour, despite this post was very much a success, I was quite booked except the weekend of labor day, which was almost expected, which is why I took the weekend off to connect at pool parties and group outings. I had an interesting conversation with a guy over the weekend, who was a friend of a client who I'm friends with. Though he's an attractive Black guy in who just turned 50, he was like, "I never go out to restaraunts alone". When he travels, he'll always order to go or uber eats. We were having a mini debate as to why it's no big deal, even if you are by yourself. But at the end of the day, it's stuff like that which adds to the anxiety/boredom part of travel. Escort travel in itself offers lots of 1 on 1 interaction, but not much in the way of social interaction throughout the day. You can make $1,000 in a day, but still have no one to go out to happy hour or brunch with the next day, because with visiting a city, you don't know anyone where you can quickly connect with. Money aside, there's still the part and parcels that come along with it. I am actually an advocate of going out to eat by myself IF I don't have others to go with. Just last week, I must have went out to eat by myself 3 or 4 times, but by the end of the week, I was at a table of 11. I honestly felt no difference in the experience or how the food tasted. Sometimes I don't even understand how going out to eat has become something to ONLY do with family, friends or dates anyway. Therefore, why do I mind the general population's consensus that if you're out eating/traveling alone, you're a looser or loner, and should be felt bad for? Edited September 9, 2021 by Jarrod_Uncut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarrod_Uncut Posted September 10, 2021 Author Share Posted September 10, 2021 On 9/2/2021 at 9:47 AM, BuffaloKyle said: Ok so the east coast travel schedule will be Buff - Pitt - DC - NYC - Boston. We're setting it up for you Jarrod! 😁 Well, though I don't have intentions on getting to NYC and Boston, I've started making estimated travels for Buffalo to start. Just first getting feelers before I make the round. I am trying to get out there this month, preferably before the seasons get to changing! BuffaloKyle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 27 minutes ago, Jarrod_Uncut said: Well, though I don't have intentions on getting to NYC and Boston, I've started making estimated travels for Buffalo to start. Just first getting feelers before I make the round. I am trying to get out there this month, preferably before the seasons get to changing! Buffalo? Be sure to visit Viagara Falls. The Canadian side is 100 times better though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloKyle Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 9 hours ago, Lazarus said: Buffalo? Be sure to visit Viagara Falls. The Canadian side is 100 times better though. Viagara Fallls sounds like a pretty fun time! 😆 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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