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Even though an escort charges for his time only. The chances that sex will happen is 99.9%

 

A masseur charges for the massage. Most likely sex or nudity won’t happen. A happy ending may happen. If you are lucky mutual touch too. But it could be that the massage might be mediocre. It’s a gamble.

 

Depending of your mood, budget and what you need, you can decide.

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You'll likely get a Jergen's Special with pressure to upgrade to full service. If you decline, expect a hand job and don't be surprised if the session is less than the agreed to time.

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Here is my conundrum: I hire an guy as an escort I can expect to pay 300. If I hire the same guy for an erotic massage I can pay less than half that amount. So, what's the difference?

 

I know folks who tried and gave up...

 

30 mins after the beginning of the massage he would start saying "fuck me, fuck me"....

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I've hired masseurs who also provided escort services. Some of them have multiple tiers (e.g., therapeutic massage, erotic massage, escort session). This allows the provider to cast a wider net, as clients have different expectations and budgets.

 

An erotic massage might include the masseur being nude, MT, and an HE. The limits of the escort session depend on the client and escort, but would likely include sex. There is often a difference in massage quality, however, between trained masseurs who also escort and escorts who also give body rubs.

 

I think it's important to just be honest about your expectations and choose the appropriate service. For example, don't schedule a massage and try to fuck the masseur, unless you're willing to pay the escort rate. The masseur/escort should also be professional and avoid upselling during the session.

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Even though an escort charges for his time only. The chances that sex will happen is 99.9%

 

A masseur charges for the massage. Most likely sex or nudity won’t happen. A happy ending may happen. If you are lucky mutual touch too. But it could be that the massage might be mediocre. It’s a gamble.

 

Depending of your mood, budget and what you need, you can decide.

If I hired an escort and fell into the 0.1% bucket of "sex didn't happen" I wouldn't pay.

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https://www.companyofmen.org/threads/sensuous-vs-erotic-massage.159134/

 

Up your Odds of having the Erotic Massage move further toward BFE Escort service:

 

A: Be better-looking, hotter, younger, and more hung than the masseur.and show proof when booking.

 

B: Pick the right man at the perfect moment. Be lucky.

 

C: When contacting, booking, negotiating, confirming, preparing, and meeting don’t do ANYTHING that’s remotely dickish or stupid: follow directions in profile, be generous, warm, flexible, truthful, considerate, hygienic, a terrific Host or Considerate guest, and then be prepared to pay his Upgrade if the erotic massage he’s providing if is insufficiently erotic. (You might be surprised at how far his erotic massage actually goes beyond a

Rub’n’tug!) Now, if you don’t think Upgrade is the right move in the moment be honest, polite, expressively grateful (tipping) and remember this is your first encounter, kind of like a mutual audition, and if the erotic connection seems real, you can book his Escort session later. You will have gotten 1st time over and now you know his skill level, and he will have high regard for your behavior as an excellent client. Worst case is that you got a good-to-great massage and some nice access to his assets, and your climax was way above average.

 

D: See A

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Here is my conundrum: I hire an guy as an escort I can expect to pay 300. If I hire the same guy for an erotic massage I can pay less than half that amount. So, what's the difference?

 

It is a revenue play. I've seen two scenarios unfold:

 

  1. An escort knows he only has stamina to top one client a day, but he can also see a massage client or two, then he is increasing his opportunity of generating revenue.
  2. A certified masseur starts with only therapeutic massages and discovers that he can charge a higher fee by expanding into sensual and/or erotic massage. At some point, a client asks for a full out sex session and the guy expands the services he offers down the road.

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As Erotic Masseur, he's not gonna f*ck you, hence half rate.

Yes, but some *will* fuck you. The almost coy approach can be maddening.

 

I assume if I hire a guy for a massage, that’s what I’m getting. My dick will be massaged too. But my ass will not get filled. That’s the escort hiring. That’s how I view it.

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Yes, but some *will* fuck you. The almost coy approach can be maddening.

I think it's too much to expect they will if you are paying half rate. If it happens, great, but never expect it if you are paying for a massage only.

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Out of the masseurs I have hired I think maybe two of them also escorted. From my limited experience (just my observation, mind you) the ones that only advertised as masseurs went further toward sex than the ones that also had an escort ad. The escorts don't want to give away the goods that they can and will get more money for.

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Here is my conundrum: I hire an guy as an escort I can expect to pay 300. If I hire the same guy for an erotic massage I can pay less than half that amount. So, what's the difference?

 

 

I hire for massage a lot- enjoy it. And it does often progress to full-on sex.

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I often do an hour of each, massage followed by escort. But often times they are separated. I started escorting back in '99 and incorporated massage around 2005.

 

Yes, I would have to say that it was to cast a wider net.

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That’s why I tend to go to guys who don’t advertise as both. To me a massage with a little extra is definitely a perk. If you want more it’s best to be direct from the beginning.

 

If I want a true massage without temptation I go to spa and ask for a masseuse.

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I hire for massage a lot- enjoy it. And it does often progress to full-on sex.

That's because you are hiring a (few) regular(s) for erotic massage frequently. You can have this expectation.

I pay midway between erotic massage and escort rate with a regular, and I have this benefit too.

Don't expect to get this on your first (1-time-off) visit.

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That’s why I tend to go to guys who don’t advertise as both.

If I want a true massage without temptation I go to spa and ask for a masseuse.

I somewhat disagree with the 1st one. Most of the time I'll look for a masseur that's a top (bottom here) so I can have an extra benefit.

And yes, if I wanted ONLY massage, I would go to a spa.

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I somewhat disagree with the 1st one. Most of the time I'll look for a masseur that's a top (bottom here) so I can have an extra benefit.

And yes, if I wanted ONLY massage, I would go to a spa.

 

I only hire guys for therapeutic massage because the rate is lower. When it doesn't progress to sex, I'm not disappointed. When it does, it's a nice surprise. And it expands the universe of guys I can hire. Since it doesn't have to culminate in sex, I can hire straight hunks who do massage.

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There are men who do not want an escort experience. They simply want a massage from a hot guy. I can think of a few guys in addition to @Rod Hagen who advertise as both escorts and masseurs. A guy who only advertises as an escort would miss out on a client. Additionally, it avoids the oft-discussed and denigrated practice of charging different fees for different escort services. Advertising as an escort and as a masseur avoids that. If you contact the guy for a massage, you pay the massage rate. You contact him for an escort session, you pay the escort rate.

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I promote as a masseur, of the sensual / erotic type. It always includes happy ending, suck rim etc. If the client returns for second or more sessions it can develop into sex but always as part of the massage and I don’t make any promises (or extra charge) about fucking them. It’s got to feel right for both of us.

I also do escort sessions where I offer much more (I’m versatile) and there’s additional cost for that.

I started out just doing sensual massage but realised some guys want more so that’s why I offer the full service too. But my main business is sensual massage because most of my clients just want intimacy and relaxation more than fucking.

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