Is this (the new) normal?

[vasudev]

https://rent.men/Mister_Mister

 

Will post my conversation here, word for word, and leave it up to you nice folks to interpret. I'm still in shock. Is this (the new) normal?!

 

Initial few messages were fine, courteous, respectful. Then on the day of the scheduled meeting, this:

 

V: Hey! I’m done with work a little earlier than expected. If you happen to be available a little earlier, I could do 4pm. Else, 5pm still works!

Allen: How about 430?

V: Sure! That works! Thank you.

 

(Later that afternoon)

V: On my way. ETA 4:20. Absolutely no rush, just me know when you’re ready

Allen: K guess I'll wait to eat later...

V: No problem at all sorry I know I’m early, you should finish eating that’s totally fine!

Allen: Throw away this food that I just reheated cause instead of 430 you want to make things earlier

V: No! I just left early expecting traffic

Allen: No its fine If you really did care about that time you'd at least wait before heading this way

V: I really don’t mind waiting till 4:30

Allen: (after a long pause) K see you at 4:20

V: Allen, I feel like I’ve offended you and that was not my intent at all. I just left early because theres usually a lot of traffic where I’m coming from. Today there happened to not be much traffic. I will gladly wait ten minutes till 4:30, I would hate for you to waste your food!

Allen: Just come before I change my mind You knew that most people have to work from home today unless you've been living under a rock

V: (now in complete shock) Wow that was rude. I work in the healthcare field, and on my way to work this morning there was still a good amount of traffic. I’m sorry that you’re offended by my attempt to not be late. I repeatedly offered to wait till 4:30. I don’t think I like being treated without respect.

Allen: Dude if you think that was rude I can't wait to see how you'll interact with other escorts Best we don't meet up

[+ FrankR]

https://rent.men/Mister_Mister

 

Will post my conversation here, word for word, and leave it up to you nice folks to interpret. I'm still in shock. Is this (the new) normal?!

 

Initial few messages were fine, courteous, respectful. Then on the day of the scheduled meeting, this:

 

V: Hey! I’m done with work a little earlier than expected. If you happen to be available a little earlier, I could do 4pm. Else, 5pm still works!

Allen: How about 430?

V: Sure! That works! Thank you.

 

(Later that afternoon)

V: On my way. ETA 4:20. Absolutely no rush, just me know when you’re ready

Allen: K guess I'll wait to eat later...

V: No problem at all sorry I know I’m early, you should finish eating that’s totally fine!

Allen: Throw away this food that I just reheated cause instead of 430 you want to make things earlier

V: No! I just left early expecting traffic

Allen: No its fine If you really did care about that time you'd at least wait before heading this way

V: I really don’t mind waiting till 4:30

Allen: (after a long pause) K see you at 4:20

V: Allen, I feel like I’ve offended you and that was not my intent at all. I just left early because theres usually a lot of traffic where I’m coming from. Today there happened to not be much traffic. I will gladly wait ten minutes till 4:30, I would hate for you to waste your food!

Allen: Just come before I change my mind You knew that most people have to work from home today unless you've been living under a rock

V: (now in complete shock) Wow that was rude. I work in the healthcare field, and on my way to work this morning there was still a good amount of traffic. I’m sorry that you’re offended by my attempt to not be late. I repeatedly offered to wait till 4:30. I don’t think I like being treated without respect.

Allen: Dude if you think that was rude I can't wait to see how you'll interact with other escorts Best we don't meet up

He is actually quite well spoken of here and well reviewed too.

https://www.companyofmen.org/threads/411-on-mister-mister.149024/

https://www.daddysreviews.com/venue/usa/texas/allen_dallas

Edited March 21, 2020 by FrankR

[+ Pensant]

It happens.

[instudiocity]

Wow! You changed the appointed time twice and didn't think you'd upset the apple cart?

You seem oblivious to the effect your changes caused to someone else. That’s what’s not normal....

 

The only thing you were correct about was your offensive behavior, changing the appointment twice in the space of 40 minutes.

[+ Reisr30]

https://rent.men/Mister_Mister

 

Will post my conversation here, word for word, and leave it up to you nice folks to interpret. I'm still in shock. Is this (the new) normal?!

 

Initial few messages were fine, courteous, respectful. Then on the day of the scheduled meeting, this:

 

V: Hey! I’m done with work a little earlier than expected. If you happen to be available a little earlier, I could do 4pm. Else, 5pm still works!

Allen: How about 430?

V: Sure! That works! Thank you.

 

(Later that afternoon)

V: On my way. ETA 4:20. Absolutely no rush, just me know when you’re ready

Allen: K guess I'll wait to eat later...

V: No problem at all sorry I know I’m early, you should finish eating that’s totally fine!

Allen: Throw away this food that I just reheated cause instead of 430 you want to make things earlier

V: No! I just left early expecting traffic

Allen: No its fine If you really did care about that time you'd at least wait before heading this way

V: I really don’t mind waiting till 4:30

Allen: (after a long pause) K see you at 4:20

V: Allen, I feel like I’ve offended you and that was not my intent at all. I just left early because theres usually a lot of traffic where I’m coming from. Today there happened to not be much traffic. I will gladly wait ten minutes till 4:30, I would hate for you to waste your food!

Allen: Just come before I change my mind You knew that most people have to work from home today unless you've been living under a rock

V: (now in complete shock) Wow that was rude. I work in the healthcare field, and on my way to work this morning there was still a good amount of traffic. I’m sorry that you’re offended by my attempt to not be late. I repeatedly offered to wait till 4:30. I don’t think I like being treated without respect.

Allen: Dude if you think that was rude I can't wait to see how you'll interact with other escorts Best we don't meet up

 

Maybe he was having a bad day but hey perhaps you dodged a bullet. Who knows what he would have been like in person. At the end of the day you are the client and your messages seem reasonable; it’s up to him if he wants to lose a client by not having good customer service skills...

[cany10011]

I find the more the time changes, especially to an earlier appt, the more complicated things become. I usually schedule my appointments for weekends, as i don‘t have to rush home from work or worry about scarfing down food before an escort comes over. The more rushed I am, the less pleasure or enjoyment I derive from the appointment as I feel i am trying to force myself to accomodate the escort‘s time.

[sared85]

I’m sorry that happened to you. Your tone was polite throughout and you didn’t insist on or require a time change — you merely offered it as a possibility. The provider could have easily said “let’s stick with 5 so I have a chance to eat beforehand”; in fact, I’ve had that exact convo with a provider before, and it didn’t lead to any awkwardness whatsoever. Whatever his typical reviews are like, I’m with Reisr30 on this one: consider this a dodged bullet on a bad day.

[MrMattBig]

. The provider could have easily said “let’s stick with 5 so I have a chance to eat beforehand”; .

Exactly what I have said beforehand too.

Perhaps it was an off day.

@vasudev if you are still enamored with him and are able to meet perhaps wait a few days and message something like "hey not completely sure what went wrong the other day, perhaps it was an off day for us both. Would love to still meet you, let me know if this could work"

[Oscar Not Wilde]

His RM ad says:

 

"I'm a very easy going person to get along with and very laid back."

 

Perhaps not given this exchange with his client.

[CuriousByNature]

Hopefully he was just having a bad day. I dont see anything in your correspondence that would be offensive.

 

You asked him if an earlier meeting was possible. It was not an ultimatum.

 

You let him know you were running 10 minutes early, and the way he responded to that was a bit snarky, for whatever reason. You had no idea he was eating. Many people would have just showed up at his door at 4:20.

 

You also assured him you could wait until the appointed time.

 

Perhaps he is stressed out because of the current situation, and I dont want to judge him. But you did nothing wrong in my opinion. If 4:30 or 4:20 was potentially going to be a problem, he should have told you that the original time was preferred when you first asked about an earlier meeting.

 

I expect he was trying to please you by agreeing to an earlier time. But that kindness was sort of erased by his later reactions. You wouldnt have known or anticipated that, and I have no doubt you would have kept the 5pm time had you known what would have happened. But none of us are mind readers... at least I am not.

 

I hope he contacts you, and that you can work it out. Or reach out to him in a while. Both of you are likely very kind people who got off-track via electronic communication, which is never as clear as face-to-face.

 

Just my two cents...

[MrMattBig]

His RM ad says:

 

"I'm a very easy going person to get along with and very laid back."

 

Perhaps not given this exchange with his client.

I do always question whether ads like that are the cookie cutter copy for an ad that they used, or if like I have mentioned somewhere else, if it feels like they are going out of their way to affirm something, the reality is most likely the opposite.

Considering the stress of the health crisis and another mentioning positive talk about him, I would love to think it was just an off day though.

[Poincare]

You seemed to behave fine to me. He sounds like a douche. Best that you dodged that bullet. No excuses

[+ StLouisOct]

I had a great time with him in 2018 (and gave him a good report on Daddys Reviews). Earlier this year I was pleased that he was available to meet with me. Early in the morning of our appointment (scheduled for 2:00 pm) I let him know that I had come down with something and felt awful and would have to cancel. I stressed that I really looked forward to meeting him again another time. His immediate response was that such excuses seemed to be common in my city that day and he questioned my honesty. I wonder if this has been a bad year for him. He seems to have lost good communication skills!

[MrMattBig]

I had a great time with him in 2018 (and gave him a good report on Daddys Reviews). Earlier this year I was pleased that he was available to meet with me. Early in the morning of our appointment (scheduled for 2:00 pm) I let him know that I had come down with something and felt awful and would have to cancel. I stressed that I really looked forward to meeting him again another time. His immediate response was that such excuses seemed to be common in my city that day and he questioned my honesty. I wonder if this has been a bad year for him. He seems to have lost good communication skills!

Seems like maybe he is applying one experience to all situations. Flakes and and nonsense is no joke, but this is why I make it a point to hold individuals responsible, and on a third strike either question their motives and will proceed based on their response, or flat out say I am unwilling to make an appointment with them. Without keeping track of who is who or has done what, I can see how some develop attitudes or get drawn into grouping everyone into the same category of game playing when it could actually be a cancellation for legit reasons.

[curiousbynature12]

My experience with Allen is that he is generally polite in person, but he is not great with communication and isn't as professional as other escorts. Not sure if that's due to his age, his introversion, or other factors going on from his side, but you end up having to be patient as a client when setting things up.

 

Could you have told him you want to meet at 4:20? Yes

Could Allen have handled that better in his response? Sure, definitely.

 

But the escalation and break down in text happened, so maybe it's best to move on? You could try to repair things in text, but if there is bad feelings on either side, it's not going to be a fun session for either of you.

 

@latbear4blk may be the best person to provide context with Allen, he even wrote a good review on him.

Edited March 21, 2020 by curiousbynature12

[sexymonk]

https://rent.men/Mister_Mister

 

Will post my conversation here, word for word, and leave it up to you nice folks to interpret. I'm still in shock. Is this (the new) normal?!

 

Initial few messages were fine, courteous, respectful. Then on the day of the scheduled meeting, this:

 

V: Hey! I’m done with work a little earlier than expected. If you happen to be available a little earlier, I could do 4pm. Else, 5pm still works!

Allen: How about 430?

V: Sure! That works! Thank you.

 

(Later that afternoon)

V: On my way. ETA 4:20. Absolutely no rush, just me know when you’re ready

Allen: K guess I'll wait to eat later...

V: No problem at all sorry I know I’m early, you should finish eating that’s totally fine!

Allen: Throw away this food that I just reheated cause instead of 430 you want to make things earlier

V: No! I just left early expecting traffic

Allen: No its fine If you really did care about that time you'd at least wait before heading this way

V: I really don’t mind waiting till 4:30

Allen: (after a long pause) K see you at 4:20

V: Allen, I feel like I’ve offended you and that was not my intent at all. I just left early because theres usually a lot of traffic where I’m coming from. Today there happened to not be much traffic. I will gladly wait ten minutes till 4:30, I would hate for you to waste your food!

Allen: Just come before I change my mind You knew that most people have to work from home today unless you've been living under a rock

V: (now in complete shock) Wow that was rude. I work in the healthcare field, and on my way to work this morning there was still a good amount of traffic. I’m sorry that you’re offended by my attempt to not be late. I repeatedly offered to wait till 4:30. I don’t think I like being treated without respect.

Allen: Dude if you think that was rude I can't wait to see how you'll interact with other escorts Best we don't meet up

I see with your conversation. Still to aforementioned time as other person plan accordingly. Your heads up though courteous we’re causing anxiety in the provider! Stick to your discussed time.

[+ José Soplanucas]

My experience with Allen is that he is generally polite in person, but he not great with communication and isn't as professional as other escorts. Not sure if that's due to his age, his introversion, or other factors going on from his side, but you end up having to be patient as a client when setting things up.

 

Could you have told him you want to meet at 4:20? Yes

Could Allen have handled that better in his response? Sure, definitely.

 

But the escalation and break down in text happened, so maybe it's best to move on? You could try to repair things in text, but if there is bad feelings on other side, it's not going to be a fun session for either of you.

 

@latbear4blk may be the best person to provide context with Allen, he even wrote a good review on him.

 

I had not seen this thread.

 

What can I say? The Allen showing in that exchange and in the OP's narrative is not the Allen I know. I have met him several times throughout the last four years and counting, and I do not recognize him here. If this narrative is not a fabrication and the exchange is not edited, apparently he acted wrong. Perhaps he was in a bad day. It happens to me.

 

However, we are reading only one side of the drama. I wonder what we would learn whether Allen had the chance to speak.

[+ 7829V]

Even if I arrive 40 min early I don’t ask to change the time of the appointment, I just wait in my car watching YouTube videos. I assume escort is busy or maybe getting ready, etc.

[+ Keith30309]

I’ve never met Allen but have exchanged notes and he’s always been polite.

 

Plans change and last minute interruptions occur and I try really hard to not change an appointment time. Texting is a really lousy communication medium compared to a phone call and I try to avoid texting last minute changes rather than calling. Hard feelings seem to arise much more often from text exchanges rather than a voice call.

[+ poolboy48220]

Giving @vasudev the benefit of the doubt that he posted the entire conversation as he stated, we did read both sides. Vasudev asked, didn't demand, through the whole exchange, and was met with just, well, sulkiness.

 

I've been on both sides of that conversation, when the escort's shifted the time by a bit, or I've asked to. I got there about 15 minutes early for my last hire, I hung out at the hotel bar until he was ready, and he ended up being late - he came down to the bar to have a drink with me about 20 minutes after our time to meet, after that we headed up to his room.

[down_to_business]

My take (I realize with the benefit of reading about what happened).

 

You should have just stuck to 4:30p and not sent that additional text.

He should have handled the communication much better.

You should NOT have publicly called him out on this. It's not like he did something terrible like rip you off or hurt you.

 

I might think twice as a hypothetical client about hiring an escort if I knew he communicated like this. But I definitely would not want you as a client if I was a hypothetical escort after the shameful behavior you have demonstrated taking this minor disagreement public.

[+ Reisr30]

My take (I realize with the benefit of reading about what happened).

 

You should have just stuck to 4:30p and not sent that additional text.

He should have handled the communication much better.

You should NOT have publicly called him out on this. It's not like he did something terrible like rip you off or hurt you.

 

I might think twice as a hypothetical client about hiring an escort if I knew he communicated like this. But I definitely would not want you as a client if I was a hypothetical escort after the shameful behavior you have demonstrated taking this minor disagreement public.

 

Interesting perspective. I think the OP who is new was asking for others perspective on the situation. I don’t see anything wrong with him posting and asking for others opinions; in my case that’s the reason I find this forum/community so valuable. However, in retrospect it might have been better to post the question without identifying the companion so I appreciate your point on that.

[down_to_business]

Interesting perspective. I think the OP who is new was asking for others perspective on the situation. I don’t see anything wrong with him posting and asking for others opinions; in my case that’s the reason I find this forum/community so valuable. However, in retrospect it might have been better to post the question without identifying the companion so I appreciate your point on that.

 

Sorry if I was unclear. Absolutely, asking the question is fine, but leave out the actual participants. (just my opinion) It doesn't bring any real value in potentially hurting someone's livelihood over this.

[beachboy]

I always arrive early for meets with a provider cos I leave extra time for traffic delays etc & I hate to be late.

I sit in my car & wait until the appointed time before knocking at the door or go for a short walk.

My thinking is that I have agreed a time & out of respect for the provider I do not expect him to change his plans for me as he may be eating, showering or dressing etc. The meet then proceeds without any hassle with an unspoilt atmosphere.

I have occasionally waited for a few minutes if he is running late (life happens), notably when the guy had just showered & answered the door wearing just a towel with his hair still wet-so sexy!

[lonely_john]

My take (I realize with the benefit of reading about what happened).

 

You should have just stuck to 4:30p and not sent that additional text.

He should have handled the communication much better.

You should NOT have publicly called him out on this. It's not like he did something terrible like rip you off or hurt you.

 

I might think twice as a hypothetical client about hiring an escort if I knew he communicated like this. But I definitely would not want you as a client if I was a hypothetical escort after the shameful behavior you have demonstrated taking this minor disagreement public.

 

Completely agree. @vasudev If there was a negative experience that didn’t imply riping-off, theft, something against the law, or anything that could put your physical integrity in danger, I don’t see the point of posting this. For what? Just putting the provider in a bad light? Sure thing he wasn’t completely professional in his responses to you after you pushed forward the appointment time twice, but it looks as if you are doing this only out of a childish revenge without even having used the service of the provider. You dropped the initial post as a bomb and then left the thread. If you really are a client and not another escort or a time-waster trying to build a bad reputation for Allen you might have made a mistake. You think escorts don’t talk to each other too? Rest assured there will be rumors and other providers might not want to have you as a client now that you have framed yourself as “problematic”. I would prefer to post no review rather than a negative one.

Edited March 21, 2020 by lonely_john