Do Escorts Date Each Other?

[+ Eric Hassan]

Idk. Ask @Eric Hassan I’d Date the F*** out of that guy!

 

i haven't done long distance in a long time, but hey - why not?! ok, i'll date you, beautiful man!

[Rudynate]

Quite common, although I feel these relationships are a ticking time bomb. Its great to have someone who understands your experience in contrast to dating someone who does not understand the intricacies of escorting, which is a slippery slope from the beginning. However, I do feel escorts come with a lot of internal conflict that they need to work out before trying to date another human being. Speaking personally, and from colleagues I know who date within the community, the relationships are never prosperous nor lengthy as this kind of work doesn’t warrant a relationship to ever have a healthy foundation.

 

 

Is it possible that a LTR isn't the goal in these relationships that don't last? There may be nothing wrong with the people involved-something long term just wasn't the object.

[Guest Calix_K]

I've dated a guy in the industry before.

I actually brought cash to his place the first time we met although he stated it was off the clock. I paid him anyways and long story short it was a great relationship! We did duos occasionally and when not working together we talked about our work. We were really open about it which is hard to have with someone looking in from outside the industry. He ended up moving to Europe for school and he is killing it over there!

[Ryan Roman]

I only met Alec once (so he qualifies as my input to another thread) and didn't meet Ryan. I couldn't manage to get to the US between his announcement and his actual retirement. I absolutely agree with your assessment of Alec. Their case my be illuminating on the subject of this thread and on people's thoughts on the viability of escort-to-escort relationships. There may be more difficulties if one member of a couple is in the business and the other isn't (same with porn actors). The fact that they both retired at the same time would seem to support my theory that one partner working is more a difficulty than both. I'm not an escort so obviously my opinion is pure speculation.

 

I can speak to having a partner not in the business. My partner and I met at a sex party, on our first date (a week later). I told him I was an escort, and he said he didn't believe monogamy. Three years later, our primary issue has been my time away from him when I have multi-hour clients. Early on, he would have just hooked up with a guy while I was with a client (he was an amateur slut as opposed to my professional level ?). However, over the last 2 years he's suffered from IBS, which has impacted his sex life... Making him feel lonely when I'm working with a client. Even though he understands the economic need, it's still an issue we're working through.

[ncc1701d]

Yes. I believe you are correct, Mike, in that they were together before they began escorting. From hiring Alec many times, he sometimes shared that their relationship back then had a few issues with both of them escorting and having sex with so many men. That said, I wish both Alec and Ryan the best. I never met Ryan, but Alec was an amazing escort and an amazing man, sweet, smart and super sexy!!!

 

TruHart1

 

They have long ago broken up and Alec is now married to someone else. Not hard to track him on IG given his public pictures.

[Rod Hagen]

Wunderkinds Kristian and Athan (Athen?) were a couple when they moved to LA back in the early Hooville days.

 

Rick and Derrick were the original internet escort couple

 

I used to hook up with escorts and sometimes become friends when I was young, no dating though. Not so for the last 10 years.

 

Still very beautiful of course, and a very sweet guy, I thought Alec's athletic frame, when he first started escorting, hung better on him than the packed-on-muscle one he had when he returned to escorting. Just my personal taste, wondering if anyone feels the same?

Edited March 26, 2020 by Rod Hagen

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

Wunderkinds Kristian and Athan (Athen?) were a couple when they moved to LA back in the early Hooville days.

 

Blast from the past. When I was starting off, so were they.

 

Those guys knew how to generate the chatter.

[marylander1940]

In the gay porn industry it's common for pornstars to date each other, especially at Helix. How common is this in the escort community?

 

Hell yeah!

 

before most ads included face like they do now escorts would seek others just to keep the discretion, and (among other things) avoid having to lie about their profession, etc.

[mike carey]

Still very beautiful of course, and a very sweet guy, I thought Alec's athletic frame, when he first started escorting hung better on him than the packed-on-muscle one he had when he returned to escorting. Just my personal taste, wondering if anyone feels the same?

I'm not sure which phase I saw, but having done so, for me the 'very sweet guy' part would trump whatever the current body aesthetic was.

[Rod Hagen]

The mental anguish and wear and tear of working in such an industry, however, is a bit more difficult to overcome for two individuals trying to build something together.

 

Anguish? If you're feeling anguish, don't continue. Or, at least take another look at it; Refresh and Renew.

 

I've been an escort longer than anyone currently working. I've never felt anything close to anguish. Elation, for sure. You have your own schedule, you're admired and appreciated daily, you travel, and you get to make others feel good.

 

These are all things proven to enhance and maintain Mental Health.

Edited March 26, 2020 by Rod Hagen

[Guest]

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[hypothetically]

Anguish? If you're feeling anguish, don't continue. Or, at least take another look at it; Refresh and Renew.

 

I've been an escort longer than anyone currently working. I've never felt anything close to anguish. Elation, for sure. You have your own schedule, you're admired and appreciated daily, you travel, and you get to make others feel good.

 

These are all things proven to enhance and maintain Mental Health.

Escorting isn’t exactly that...peachy keen, but if you feel the aforementioned things outweigh the cons, and you’ve been able to “enjoy” your lengthy tenure, good for you. It’s a...calling, for some lol.

[marylander1940]

Escorting long term doesn’t exactly benefit one’s mental health. It skewers one’s perspective of what sex, money, love and interpersonal relationships mean. I think the fact that my partner having sex with other men for work is the least of my worries, as most escorts do a phenomenal job of disassociating and keeping personal and work completely separate. The mental anguish and wear and tear of working in such an industry, however, is a bit more difficult to overcome for two individuals trying to build something together.

 

Most of the escorts I know simply love escorting. Money, sex, trips, friendship, being appreciated, knowledge, experience, etc. Obviously I'm talking about men who decided to do it because it was their choice and compared to other jobs they had it gives them a lot of free time to enjoy life while making a lot of money.

 

Wear and tear? Try working as a store clerk and get ready for boredom, work in an office and you'll worried and busy even after 5 PM when you're home.

 

Obviously in a relationship an escort won't be available all the time even if he's open with his partner about it. Life is about choices!

 

Anguish? If you're feeling anguish, don't continue. Or, at least take another look at it; Refresh and Renew.

 

I've been an escort longer than anyone currently working. I've never felt anything close to anguish. Elation, for sure. You have your own schedule, you're admired and appreciated daily, you travel, and you get to make others feel good.

 

These are all things proven to enhance and maintain Mental Health.

 

Exitus acta probat

 

Only the good ones like you like you last so long specially now in this competitive market!

[Rod Hagen]

Those guys knew how to generate the chatter.

 

Their photos really got the ball rolling. Remember that first photo of Kristian, where everybody asked, "is that a real person?"? Stunning.

 

Athan's first photo was a stunner too. I wish the photo was still in the archives, but here are his reviews:

 

http://web.archive.org/web/20050204081158/http://www.male4malescorts.com/reviews/athanla.html

 

Years after he'd retired, I saw Athan a couple times at The Zone; as hot and fun as the first time I met him.

 

I remember they broke up shortly after moving to LA.

[Rod Hagen]

Damn. I just spent a lot of time on the archive and could not find the original coverboy photo of Athan. But this is nice:

 

http://web.archive.org/web/20020306005704/http://www.male4malescorts.com/reviews/athanhouston.html

 

as is this

http://web.archive.org/web/20030812132955/http://www.male4malescorts.com/reviews/athanla.html

 

Reviews of them as a couple:

http://web.archive.org/web/20030210105837/http://www.male4malescorts.com/reviews/kristianathanhouston.html

 

 

And here's an escort couple from back in the day Adrian and Blake:

http://web.archive.org/web/20041204171432/http://www.male4malescorts.com/reviews/adrianblakeorlando.html

 

And while looking through the old stuff, I stumbled on Talvin. Yum. I mean, just Yum:

http://web.archive.org/web/20020804084010fw_/http://www.male4malescorts.com/reviews/talvindc.html

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[DR FREUD]

When reviews were really reviews and useful to clients. Not the current "he's a nice guy and we had fun".

[Mrbeefymuscles]

In the gay porn industry it's common for pornstars to date each other, especially at Helix. How common is this in the escort community?

I wouldn't be opposed to it if I found the right one. I am into other muscular/bodybuilder providers and unfortunately most of them are straight. #sadday

[+ purplekow]

Damn. I just spent a lot of time on the archive and could not find the original coverboy photo of Athan. But this is nice:

 

http://web.archive.org/web/20020306005704/http://www.male4malescorts.com/reviews/athanhouston.html

 

as is this

http://web.archive.org/web/20030812132955/http://www.male4malescorts.com/reviews/athanla.html

 

Reviews of them as a couple:

http://web.archive.org/web/20030210105837/http://www.male4malescorts.com/reviews/kristianathanhouston.html

 

 

And here's an escort couple from back in the day Adrian and Blake:

http://web.archive.org/web/20041204171432/http://www.male4malescorts.com/reviews/adrianblakeorlando.html

 

And while looking through the old stuff, I stumbled on Talvin. Yum. I mean, just Yum:

http://web.archive.org/web/20020804084010fw_/http://www.male4malescorts.com/reviews/talvindc.html

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Talvin was a hot escort and I am sure he is a hot guy in whatever profession he is pursuing now.

[Jarrod_Uncut]

Is it possible that a LTR isn't the goal in these relationships that don't last? There may be nothing wrong with the people involved-something long term just wasn't the object.

 

Good point here ??

 

And that’s what I’ve been coming to realize overtime just “dating” many people over the years, who happen to be outside of the biz.

 

I’ve even come to the conclusion that “dating” is no longer going to be in my vocabulary. It’s not that it’s a bad thing or that I don’t believe in it, but it creates expectations and false sense of commitment far too soon. I dealt with that so much in my 20s, “talking to” guys, who were also “talking to” other guys. Or people who hook up a couple times and one claims they were “dating” and another wasn’t. Then someone gets hurt.

 

So nowadays, if I meet someone, and we’re hooking up, we’re only going to be friends who fuck. FWF. If after some time we decide to be more, then it’ll progress to boyfriends. If it’s another escort, great, but I’m not necessarily looking for it to be. But in my experience, like you said, most escorts don’t come to the table with dating on the menu.

 

I’ve had a few connects with other escorts, either thru client 3way (or even 4 way lol) sessions, or RentMen ads. But most seem to be in it for an agenda, not so much giving off a vibe of something date-wise.

[thickornotatall]

Last time I was in Paris I was with a very well known escort/pornstars with TimTales...He asked if he could bring a friend on our 2nd meeting...I was happily surprised to know who the friend was..Then found out they were a couple...The boyfriend turned out to be the bottom who expertly took my date....When I said I hope you didn't hurt him he laughed and said that was his target practice...Check my LPSG page for a pic of them....Needless to say we all had a great time....a few times....If I ever get back to Paris...sigh

[Jarrod_Uncut]

Most of the escorts I know simply love escorting. Money, sex, trips, friendship, being appreciated, knowledge, experience, etc. Obviously I'm talking about men who decided to do it because it was their choice and compared to other jobs they had it gives them a lot of free time to enjoy life while making a lot of money.

 

Wear and tear? Try working as a store clerk and get ready for boredom, work in an office and you'll worried and busy even after 5 PM when you're home.

 

I want to add one more perspective to this all. Escorting and dating is almost an oxymoron. I’m not speaking for anyone in particular, or undermining any good escort relationships out there. But most guys in the biz aren’t in it because they’re trying to “date” (unless one is referring to dating=hooking up), or they may have moved on from the dating “rat race”.

 

In my case, I’m over the dating rat race. When I look back over the years, many of the “dates” I’ve had were a waste of time. With some of these guys, you just have to fuck em once or twice, and move on with your life. PERIOD. I be finding most of them only around for convenience, and what you can do for them. They don’t want to contribute, always want me to work around their schedule, etc. Then they criticize and put me down. Dating can be toxic, and I usually find afterwards that the ones I thought were a good catch, turn out to be assholes.

 

My most recent quasi-dating situation: A guy I’ve fucked a couple times last year. Met him in his city the 1st time, St. Louis the 2nd time, Kansas City the 3rd time, and then Florida the 4th time. By the end of the 2nd time, he had already started referring us to just “friends”, no sex. Which is where I should have dropped it then. Because from there, the whole “friendship” became annoying and meaningless. Then I had to listen to him go on and on about some other guy he was trying to be in a relationship with. Goodbye, it was nice knowing you!

 

I also met with a guy over Easter, who I’ve previously “hooked up” with last year. Waste of my time again. I go over to his house, I walk in and he’s playing x box. I haven’t seen him in months. I stay over for an hour, and he’s talking about he has a family video chat and has company coming over later. Prior to that he said he had frat brothers over. I’m thinking to myself, why did I even waste my time going over there? I don’t have time to be trying to “squeeze in” to spend time with someone, when they’re not trying to do the same. That’s equivalent to 250/hr down the drain. Just pointless. I will not be wasting my time with him again.

 

That’s part of why I’ve been sticking with the hobby for as long as I have. Even though it’s not perfect, and can challenge your mental health...it’s not even CLOSE to the level that goes on in regular “dating” situations. Escorting allows all the physical aspects of dating, but without the baggage and drama of getting to “know someone”. And trust me, most of these guys aren’t worth getting to know, because they’re all about convenience and see other gay guys as accessories, not something to invest in.

 

Escorting has taken me from LA to Key West, Provincetown to San Francisco. And everywhere in between. I have clients who I may see once every 1 or 2 years, and we still have like the best relationship when together. I also keep in touch in between. It works for me.

Edited April 15, 2020 by Jarrod_Uncut

[+ WilliamM]

Their photos really got the ball rolling. Remember that first photo of Kristian, where everybody asked, "is that a real person?"? Stunning.

 

Athan's first photo was a stunner too. I wish the photo was still in the archives, but here are his reviews:

 

http://web.archive.org/web/20050204081158/http://www.male4malescorts.com/reviews/athanla.html

 

Years after he'd retired, I saw Athan a couple times at The Zone; as hot and fun as the first time I met him.

 

I remember they broke up shortly after moving to LA.

 

Yes, I remember that photo of Kristian.

 

Luckily an escort agency in the Eastern US featured him as a guest for a long weekend. The agency took advantage of his relative inexperienced. I hired him for an overnight. In the morning, he looked forward to appointments into the late evening. When I asked him why, Kristian said, "I don't want to disappoint anyone.". Classy man!

[endorphinfun]

I'd guess at a start, knowing your partner is out having sex with others regularly. That's not an impossible thing to deal with, but it takes a certain kind of person.

 

It's not only that; it's that the escort himself is sort of de facto expected to be cool with his partner also playing around with others. I was a year in to a relationship with an escort before the escort was able to bring himself to tell me he actually found my telling him about my 3rd party experiences uncomfortable, and that he didn't actually enjoy telling me his experiences nearly as much as I enjoyed hearing about them. It seems like a double standard at first glance, but I encourage anyone dating an escort to have this difficult conversation, and realize that just because someone's job is in the sex industry, doesn't mean they are - or should be expected to - only have "open" relationships. Had I been older and more wise, I would have noticed this problem earlier - but at my young age, I managed to be oblivious to the fact that my BF only had sex with me outside of his job.

[Jarrod_Uncut]

but I encourage anyone dating an escort to have this difficult conversation, and realize that just because someone's job is in the sex industry, doesn't mean they are - or should be expected to - only have "open" relationships.

 

Bravo ? very good point.

 

I'll also add, I don't think other escorts should assume other escorts are open to hookups. I've had some local guys reach out to me, with explicit offers. I'm flattered, and likely would fuck them...But, a little acknowledgement of me as an escort, goes a long way. Something like, "I would like to connect when you have some time available outside of clients" versus "come fuck my hole" makes a difference.

 

But I understand, some providers out here mirror the same type of guys in the "scene" and across the net. Like I said earlier, dating and a relationship isn't on their agenda.

[Aaron_Bauder]

They have long ago broken up and Alec is now married to someone else. Not hard to track him on IG given his public pictures.

 

I was wondering what happened to Alec. We used to hookup and workout together back in the day (like 4-5 years ago).