411 How can I work with heavy clients without offending them?

[bendable2019]

Seeking help in this area and if the client has odor issues in the front and backyard... ??

[rocky]

So, is it only "heavy" clients that have the front and back odor? I as a heavy client am extremely clean and smell fresh, often complimented. I've had some men I've invited over that have a heavy body odor smell, I tell them to hop in the shower. Just like someone who smokes, I do the same.

[+ azdr0710]

Welcome to the forum, @bendable2019 Based on your posts, I wonder if you're both a provider and a client. Just curious. Thanks

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

... I tell them to hop in the shower. Just like someone who smokes, I do the same.

 

To play devil's advocate, there are some guys who can't reach far enough to really get things squeaky clean when showering.

Edited May 8, 2019 by Benjamin_Nicholas

[KeepItReal]

Seeking help in this area and if the client has odor issues in the front and backyard... ??

Perhaps find a kind way of inviting the client to take take a shower with you? A warm shower certainly makes me feel more relaxed - perhaps your clients will find it relaxing as well...

[+ sniper]

To play devil's advocate, there are some guys who can't reach far enough to really get things squeaky clean when showering.

 

That's why a handheld shower should be standard...

[hypothetically]

When it comes to hygiene I think it’s important one is transparent, most people appreciate it. A simple “hey, let’s hop in the shower before we begin” will get the message across.

[Monarchy79]

Although I’m not overweight,

I’m uncomfortable with the idea that people are correlating weight with hygiene.

 

The two are mutually exclusive.

There are guys who are in fantastic physical shape who smell bad and are dirty “down there”, front and back.

 

To resolve this issue overall, I’d suggest The following:

1.) starting the session with all clients with an erotic shower, to ensure cleanliness, or

 

2.) informing all clients that you will be showered and ready prior to meeting and you expect the same of them

 

3.) If when getting “down to business”, there is a “sign”, that no pre-meeting bathing took place, stop work, explain why and reference item # 2

[+ Socalguy]

Although I’m not overweight,

I’m uncomfortable with the idea that people are correlating weight with hygiene.

 

The two are mutually exclusive.

There are guys who are in fantastic physical shape who smell bad and are dirty “down there”, front and back.

 

Thank you Monarchy79 and @rocky, I am a heavy guy myself and go out of my way to be squeaky clean and smell nice. [uSER=20442]

 

@bendable2019[/uSER] I am unclear if you only have issues with heavy people who aren't clean or, as suggested by the thread title, heavy guys period. If it's the former, I think what Monarchy79 and others suggested is good advice regarding taken a shower together. If it's heavy people in general, which I can't help but feel it might be, then maybe put something in your ads hinting at the fact that you're looking for guys who are in shape. As a heavy client, I am annoyed by those words in an ad but I'd be a lot more angry if I hired you and I could tell you weren't into it.

 

Finally, a bit of unsolicited advice that was told to me by a very wise and very successful escort: The best escorts can find something attractive in every single client. It might be thier looks, it might be their personality or it might be a tiny little detail that they can concentrate on but they find something to make the client feel like the escort is really into it. If you can't do that, then it'll show, both in your reviews and in the number of repeat customers. Just my 2¢

[JayCeeKy]

I agree with the comment that "overweight" people can be fastidious in their personal hygiene and athletic specimens can smell like dead water buffalo.

 

Having worked with a population that sometimes has hygiene issues (i.e. chronic mental illness) I came to believe that we do people a disservice by not pointing out that they are funky. You don't have to be brutal, but honesty is ALWAYS the best policy. Providers of all types of services (legal, medical, sexual) have the right to decide what conditions they will not accept in providing services. I would think that a provider of intimate services would be even more entitled to the expectation that his partner is clean, not contagious, and had hygienically prepared for the encounter, forward and aft. And, the client may never know he has a problem unless someone points it out to him. They may be offended but I am pretty sure that a odoriferous client will not be receiving the same quality experience that a fragrant one might receive.

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

That's why a handheld shower should be standard...

 

Hell, I'm 6'3" with long-ass monkey arms, but I still love a good shower handheld!

 

 

As per the OP, I don't see this as a general commentary on overweight people, but a question pertaining to his particular situation.

 

Can't we at least let him reply before figuring out a way to be wildly offended?

Edited May 8, 2019 by Benjamin_Nicholas

[mike carey]

Hell, I'm 6'3" with long-ass monkey arms, but I still love a good shower handheld!

 

 

As per the OP, I don't see this as a general commentary on overweight people, but a question pertaining to his particular situation.

 

Can't we at least let him reply before figuring out a way to be wildly offended?

Getting enraged over half the facts is so 2019.

[Guy Fawkes]

Take a shower with your client, he will probably appreciate the the indulgence. Communicate with your client, they'll help you figure it out.

 

Seeking help in this area and if the client has odor issues in the front and backyard... ??

Edited May 8, 2019 by Guy Fawkes

[bendable2019]

To play devil's advocate, there are some guys who can't reach far enough to really get things squeaky clean when showering.

 

I do agree with you here as my client couldn’t reach down there to clean the backyard properly after my offering the shower.

[bendable2019]

Thank you Monarchy79 and @rocky, I am a heavy guy myself and go out of my way to be squeaky clean and smell nice. [uSER=20442]

 

@bendable2019[/uSER] I am unclear if you only have issues with heavy people who aren't clean or, as suggested by the thread title, heavy guys period. If it's the former, I think what Monarchy79 and others suggested is good advice regarding taken a shower together. If it's heavy people in general, which I can't help but feel it might be, then maybe put something in your ads hinting at the fact that you're looking for guys who are in shape. As a heavy client, I am annoyed by those words in an ad but I'd be a lot more angry if I hired you and I could tell you weren't into it.

 

Finally, a bit of unsolicited advice that was told to me by a very wise and very successful escort: The best escorts can find something attractive in every single client. It might be thier looks, it might be their personality or it might be a tiny little detail that they can concentrate on but they find something to make the client feel like the escort is really into it. If you can't do that, then it'll show, both in your reviews and in the number of repeat customers. Just my 2¢

 

Dear @socialguy... my humble apologies dear and to everyone whom I may have offended. I thank y’all for the constructive comments herein... I am blessed to be in this forum to hear y’all and take in all the suggestions and advice...I was just seeking advice and I am glad I got it. I offered my client a shower yday but he didn’t really reach down there to clean the backyard properly so I had a hard time breathing in whilst massaging. In this instance and as some have suggested, I would have to take a shower with him and soap him down to ensure all the hard to reach places for him are attended to. I do not have any qualms with size but hygiene is. Thanks for all your advice. Love y’all. ❤️❤️❤️

[+ Socalguy]

Dear @socialguy... my humble apologies dear and to everyone whom I may have offended... I do not have any qualms with size but hygiene is. Thanks for all your advice. Love y’all. ❤️❤️❤️

 

Thank you for the clarification , proof once again that communication is key. In regards to the issue at hand, I have no idea how big this client is but one thing I found to be helpful is a body scrub pad with a long handle to reach my back and other no so easily accessible areas. I would leave one in your shower for his next visit. Not sure how you would suggest to him to use it but maybe a few of the expert providers will weigh in. (no pun intended). Good Luck!

[bendable2019]

Thank you indeed for that. Truly appreciate the advice. Have a good one xoxo

[+ Travis69]

If you do massage one thing you could do is wipe the client down with warm cloths once he is on the table. Say you are using the warm water to relax the muscles. Would feel good and hopefully take care of the odor problem without embarrassing the client.

[+ Travis69]

Have you just recently started doing massage? Most masseurs and escorts find that anyone (heavy, skinny, tall, short) who shower at 7:00 a.m and then come for massage/escort at 2:00 p.m. are going to have a bit of odor. If you are sensitive to odor make it a rule for everyone to shower.

[gallahadesquire]

Just an aside:

 

I worked with someone in an office. She was a woman of a very generous physique ( like over 400 pounds), and we shared an office. The initial odor was overwhelming, but thankfully our noses get accustomed relatively rapidly.

 

That I remember this some 48 years later is telling.

[Beancounter]

Somewhat off topic but still pertains to being “fresh”....I have a difficult time being around people who douse themselves in cologne or perfume. I’m sure many people who use cologne or perfume feel like they’re fresh but it can be overwhelming to many. Sometimes they’re just masking poor hygiene habits. Sometimes not. I’ll take a little manscent any day over cologne. However, a clean back door is a must.

[Monarchy79]

Have you just recently started doing massage? Most masseurs and escorts find that anyone (heavy, skinny, tall, short) who shower at 7:00 a.m and then come for massage/escort at 2:00 p.m. are going to have a bit of odor. If you are sensitive to odor make it a rule for everyone to shower.

 

Wow!!!

 

Any client who comes to an appointment without showering immediately beforehand isn’t considerate.

 

To spend the entire day sweating, having bodily functions, eating food and coming in contact with air, smog, grease and other environmental factors, and then to hop on a masseur’s table without showering, is flat out disrespectful, and should be told to either shower or leave.

Edited May 8, 2019 by Monarchy79

[bendable2019]

Somewhat off topic but still pertains to being “fresh”....I have a difficult time being around people who douse themselves in cologne or perfume. I’m sure many people who use cologne or perfume feel like they’re fresh but it can be overwhelming to many. Sometimes they’re just masking poor hygiene habits. Sometimes not. I’ll take a little manscent any day over cologne. However, a clean back door is a must.

 

Thanks for that. ?

[Monarchy79]

Somewhat off topic but still pertains to being “fresh”....I have a difficult time being around people who douse themselves in cologne or perfume. I’m sure many people who use cologne or perfume feel like they’re fresh but it can be overwhelming to many. Sometimes they’re just masking poor hygiene habits. Sometimes not. I’ll take a little manscent any day over cologne. However, a clean back door is a must.

 

Agreed. Although I wear cologne daily, I make sure it is entirely scrubbed off, prior to an appointment.

 

And in terms of being squeaky clean, I will tell you that once your masseur or service provider realizes you are shower fresh and squeaky clean (especially back there), they are relieved and many are excited and many fun things will happen.

 

I have had many of instances of faces surprisingly buried in my butt, and it all contributed to impeccable hygiene.

[instudiocity]

One thing I suggest to my hires is 'baby wipes'. They are excellent for post-play clean-ups but I've used them pre-play when I arrive hot and sweaty.

 

Baby wipes are excellent when warmed a minute in your microwave, too.