Boys from Grindr, social media, SA, etc.

[lanyc]

Yeah... how does that work on, say, ModelMayhem? What's your approach? Your opening salutation?

[MikeBiDude]

I am not on Grindr, but I have had very substantial success on IG and on ModelMayhem …. hotter guys at better rates than any random guy on RM

I need to try IG....I know very little about it. ModelMayhem worked for me many years in the past uI haven’t even looked lately. It’s fun finding these casual guys...

[BaronArtz]

Models are cheaper than escorts?

 

 

Having a profile on ModelMayhem doesn't make you a model. Most of these guys are struggling model wannabes. And therefore, open to creative ideas about supplementing their income.

[marylander1940]

Having a profile on ModelMayhem doesn't make you a model. Most of these guys are struggling model wannabes. And therefore, open to creative ideas about supplementing their income.

 

Got it! I hope one day they’ll discovered what the rate should be.

 

I guess some of them might end up doing porno.

[marylander1940]

I need to try IG....I know very little about it. ModelMayhem worked for me many years in the past uI haven’t even looked lately. It’s fun finding these casual guys...

 

So much time and effort constantly wondering about who’s next.

Edited April 17, 2019 by marylander1940

[+ PapaTony]

I got a substantial interest in my messages after posting about meeting a smooth tight twink bottom in NYC off of Grindr who met up for a “generous” arrangement. I wonder if we might create a thread to share finds with each other that aren’t necessarily from the standard ad sites. I find many young gents are willing to make themselves available these days but don’t want to go the rentmen route per se.

What was your original post?

[+ FrankR]

Not quite, but it's often okay to proposition

I gave this a try last night. Created a new account with ‘generous’ indicators and tapped some of the hot guys that never responded to my original profile. About a 30% success rate in responses. To be clear, these guys were of a certain age (over 22) and had no indicators in their profile that they were looking for generosity (like rose emojis). I am traveling to another large city next week and will see if the results are the same.

 

Before I meet a guy off of Grindr I will of course take some common sense precautions...

[kko123]

What was your original post?

I met with one recently I negotiated "generosity" with on grindr. So pretty, perfect hole.

[kko123]

I gave this a try last night. Created a new account with ‘generous’ indicators and tapped some of the hot guys that never responded to my original profile. About a 30% success rate in responses. To be clear, these guys were of a certain age (over 22) and had no indicators in their profile that they were looking for generosity (like rose emojis). I am traveling to another large city next week and will see if the results are the same.

 

Before I meet a guy off of Grindr I will of course take some common sense precautions...

Let us know how it goes! And share your successes

[Tonyko]

With the axing of escort Ads from places like C.L (which I loved bc it was a great place to find newbies and non-pro college guys who didn't run ads on the scort sites but were curious and "open" to some financial help :-) it seems they've flagged all the dog whistle words like Generous or Gen etc and personal ads using them are removed. What are other "hint" words or phrases you can use to let a guy know you're generous lol? And (I was only on Grinds briefly) what is the emoji mentioned here that says you're generous??

[kko123]

With the axing of escort Ads from places like C.L (which I loved bc it was a great place to find newbies and non-pro college guys who didn't run ads on the scort sites but were curious and "open" to some financial help it seems they've flagged all the dog whistle words like Generous or Gen etc and personal ads using them are removed. What are other "hint" words or phrases you can use to let a guy know you're generous lol? And (I was only on Grinds briefly) what is the emoji mentioned here that says you're generous??

Generous still works fine in conversation. Some have abbreviated “gen” in their profiles. “Reward” or “gift” or “negotiable” are other useful words for establishing the conversation.

[tenderloin]

Wait, so are you guys just talking shit when ranting about escorts being “catfish,” having no reviews, little to no track record and sending questionable photos?

 

Because if not, interesting avenue you’ve chosen.

 

No, but given my recent experience on A4A and Rentmen, I will gladly take a direct recommendation from someone on this site. As if to reinforce my cynicism, in the course of planning for an upcoming trip, I have reach out to several 'scorts who fit my bill (hung, verse, affordable) and had very good conversations -- until I asked for some form of photo verification (you know, the facetime thing or a three-fingered selfie). 5 out of 6 immediately went silent.

[kko123]

I am not on Grindr, but I have had very substantial success on IG and on ModelMayhem …. hotter guys at better rates than any random guy on RM

Would be curious to hear more about your success on Instagram. I’ve tried a bit but have struggled.

[JayCeeKy]

it seems they've flagged all the dog whistle words like Generous or Gen etc and personal ads using them are removed. What are other "hint" words or phrases you can use to let a guy know you're generous

I use some form of "Gen" in my Grindr profile every day - e.g. GEN-tleman, GENuine, XtraGEN4U, etc. and have never been flagged or warned. Maybe it helps that I'm a paid subscriber, I don't know. Just to make sure they get the point I also put a couple of "rose" emoji and I add the words "giving person" in my description. I usually get at least 5 hits per day in this medium-sized city, which usually includes their dick pics and often face pics. Of course, I also ask, as someone else mentioned, a three-fingered selfie. Also, as mentioned, expect to get a sharp drop-off of interest when you demand verification, though I am not sure that this indicates catfishism or just laziness since a lot of the initial pics sent are of big dicks but not necessarily model-type face/bodies (not that mine are, either).

[hypothetically]

No, but given my recent experience on A4A and Rentmen, I will gladly take a direct recommendation from someone on this site. As if to reinforce my cynicism, in the course of planning for an upcoming trip, I have reach out to several 'scorts who fit my bill (hung, verse, affordable) and had very good conversations -- until I asked for some form of photo verification (you know, the facetime thing or a three-fingered selfie). 5 out of 6 immediately went silent.

 

I wholeheartedly understand where one’s frustrations and skepticism stem from when making such a request to an escort and I don’t think the request is an unreasonable one but consider how many times we are contacted per day by providers who have no intention of booking and simply want to engage and then ghost. This makes up more than half of people who contact us.

 

I decline this request, not because I am a fraud (there are gentlemen on the forum who have met me and I would happily slide anyone the reference) but when I have 30 or so photos and 3 videos readily available for a client to review and they text me “pic?”’ or “send me a five finger whatever,” the answer is “absolutely not.” It’s not my responsibility to reassure someone of my credibility. It’s the client’s responsibility to be resourceful. And I mean this with all due respect, trust me. We have no way of confirming you are not an axe murderer or that you will be at the provided address, so why should we go out of our way?

 

And your argument can’t be “because there are a lot of fake ads.” My counter argument is “well, there are a lot of fake clients.” And here we are.

 

Edit: I’d like to reassert that I mean no harm, I think a healthy debate/conversation between client and provider are important..for perspective, if anything at all.

[caliguy]

is it ok to advertise on grindr?

No not unless you want to get banned.

[tenderloin]

It’s not my responsibility to reassure someone of my credibility.

 

I appreciate your response and you sound like a very reasonable and thoughtful guy (sexy, too). I can imagine how frustrating it must be dealing with all of the false leads, but -- and I don't mean this to be disrespectful -- I think it is part of the price you have to pay as a service provider. And it IS your responsibility, as the person trying to win the business, to reassure the client of your credibility.

 

In my day job, I am a "service provider," albeit of a different type of service. I am writing proposals all the time, taking prospect calls, and visiting potential clients in far off places at great cost in travel and time. My hit rate is low, but it's enough to keep us in business. I need to pursue a lot of prospects - kiss a lot of frogs - to win a few contracts.

 

In this particular M4M "calling," we are looking at very intimate services - it's about as personal as it gets. Of course I am going to be a picky, deliberate, careful consumer in this area. I have had enough incidents of providers not providing what they promised, showing up with hygiene issues, or jacked up on drugs, or not being the people in the picture, or not even remotely interested in M2M intimacy, or being too depressed, tired, or scared to do something.... After those experiences, with the resultant costs in time, money, and frustration, I am going to look for the provider to reassure me of his credibility.

 

 

Again, you sound like a good guy, so I don't mean this in an argumentative way. Peace.

[nsguy45]

I had been flirting with a young jock on Grindr for weeks and finally had him over this afternoon and it was an incredible session. 23, 6'1" , 195#, huge cut cock and an outstanding ass. I was just looking to orally service him, front and back, for an hour. He's young enough to be my grandson, so I offered him $200.00 for the session, which is less than a RM escort would charge here in Boston.

[+ goosh69]

Models are cheaper than escorts?

 

Bang for the buck - definitely at times I’ve found.

[marylander1940]

No, but given my recent experience on A4A and Rentmen, I will gladly take a direct recommendation from someone on this site. As if to reinforce my cynicism, in the course of planning for an upcoming trip, I have reach out to several 'scorts who fit my bill (hung, verse, affordable) and had very good conversations -- until I asked for some form of photo verification (you know, the facetime thing or a three-fingered selfie). 5 out of 6 immediately went silent.

 

I understand but put yourself in their place, you're contacting several guys at the same time and I'm sure they get tired of folks asking for more pics. A frequent poster on here always requires skype to book someone and at the end he also asks (and allegedly gets) a discount... Long thread on the matter.

 

Btw as it was said on here all activities/professions have time wasters too and I'm not implying you're one of them either but how do they know you're for real if they go through this several times a day.

[MikeBiDude]

Just today I had a Grindr meet with a young man who was a dockworker local to me. Said he was straight but curious. Exactly my type, looks maybe a 6 of 10 but enthusiastic, not “straight” activities at all...he bottomed like a champ, no kissing. Asked for “gas money”.

[tenderloin]

Btw as it was said on here all activities/professions have time wasters too and I'm not implying you're one of them either but how do they know you're for real if they go through this several times a day.

That's exactly my point. Countless times I have invested money and time and effort proposing for work in my field. Most of the time I don't win the work, but I do win often enough to keep me going. If I don't want to be selling and marketing and cajoling and putting up with client BS, I am in the wrong line of work.

 

So I ask a 'scort for a three fingered selfie, and I ask him to be specific about the things I am interested in buying. That's what being a consumer means. If they can't be bothered with that , they are either so successful that they don't need to bother with customers, or they are in the wrong line of work.

Edited April 18, 2019 by tenderloin

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

I wholeheartedly understand where one’s frustrations and skepticism stem from when making such a request to an escort and I don’t think the request is an unreasonable one but consider how many times we are contacted per day by providers who have no intention of booking and simply want to engage and then ghost. This makes up more than half of people who contact us.

 

I decline this request, not because I am a fraud (there are gentlemen on the forum who have met me and I would happily slide anyone the reference) but when I have 30 or so photos and 3 videos readily available for a client to review and they text me “pic?”’ or “send me a five finger whatever,” the answer is “absolutely not.” It’s not my responsibility to reassure someone of my credibility. It’s the client’s responsibility to be resourceful. And I mean this with all due respect, trust me. We have no way of confirming you are not an axe murderer or that you will be at the provided address, so why should we go out of our way?

 

I can't disagree with much of what you're saying, especially if an escort has a string of reviews, here and other places. That's usually more than enough info for a client to make an educated decision.

 

For a completely new guy or a Grindr/app situation, that's different. As with Craigslist before that, you pays your money, you takes your chances. In the search for the Holy Grail (a discount rate), don't be shocked if you get a discount experience.

 

So far, this whole thread makes me want to remind guys to be fully aware of their surroundings, have an exit strategy and learn to protect yourself.

[marylander1940]

I can't disagree with much of what you're saying, especially if an escort has a string of reviews, here and other places. That's usually more than enough info for a client to make an educated decision.

 

For a completely new guy or a Grindr/app situation, that's different. As with Craigslist before that, you pays your money, you takes your chances. In the search for the Holy Grail (a discount rate), don't be shocked if you get a discount experience.

 

So far, this whole thread makes me want to remind guys to be fully aware of their surroundings, have an exit strategy and learn to protect yourself.

 

Brilliant!

 

Your reputation precedes you (and that's in a good way).

 

If it's too good to be true...

[MikeBiDude]

remind guys to be fully aware of their surroundings, have an exit strategy and learn to protect yourself.

This!