I took you sucker.

[Edward]

An escort I have hired a few times texted me and asked to barrow $500. I sent it to him no questions asked. I have been in tight spots $ in my younger days and no place to turn. He thanked me when he received it and said I may have to take it out in trade. I was setting up our next appointment I asked if this one was prepaid. ( the usual fee for our two hours is $500) The only response I received was lol. It was like him saying "I took you sucker."

 

With all the fake adds, scams, attitudes and talk of chemistry, I say to myself "why bother?".

[Guest europeanman]

This sucks. Not very clever of him.

[jawjateck]

I have ignored most cash requests, but for 3 individuals, I did "loan" money. I never saw the money or any of them again. That's why I view generosity as a "gift" rather than a "loan"; it helps me avoid bitter feelings when the return on my kindness investment is zero.

[DR FREUD]

Bring a name forward to warn others please.

[+ nycman]

Give with an open hand.

 

Expect nothing in return.

 

It helps to ease the pain of the inevitable burn.

[+ sync]

An escort I have hired a few times texted me and asked to barrow $500. I sent it to him no questions asked. I have been in tight spots $ in my younger days and no place to turn. He thanked me when he received it and said I may have to take it out in trade. I was setting up our next appointment I asked if this one was prepaid. ( the usual fee for our two hours is $500) The only response I received was lol. It was like him saying "I took you sucker."

 

With all the fake adds, scams, attitudes and talk of chemistry, I say to myself "why bother?".

 

It will smart for a while, but many of life's lessons come with a price. Think of it as a teaching moment.

[MikeBiDude]

I can count on one finger how many time “advances” have worked out for me....

[Floridasexman]

I can count on one finger how many time “advances” have worked out for me....

These low life providers make it almost impossible for good providers who might actually a little financial help to even hope for assistance. Once burned twice shy.

[Gymowner]

Sorry guys but again scratching my head here. Not trying to put anyone down yet we all have to grow up here and be smart about it. Generosity is fine. If he asked for the money..GIVE it to him no questions asked. If you cant afford that when he asks to borrow money tell him "better yet let's have an extra session on x and you can leave with that money after the session".

 

My regular who has moved recently lost a day job he had. Somewhat bummed out knowing money would be tight till he left. I said "I have an idea. Let's get together twice a week instead of once a week till you leave". Helped him out financially and no need to ever ask me to borrow any money (this is a great guy and I highly doubt he would have ever asked in the first place).

 

Benelovency is an awesome thing. Give freely and generously when someone is in need. Setting up a situation to be taken advantage of is another.

Edited November 2, 2018 by Gymowner

[Golem]

Also, none of this is specific to providers in this industry. When people have to borrow money... it's because they don't have enough money. Outside of act-of-god catastrophe situations, that doesn't happen out of nowhere. So needing to borrow really does correlate with being unlikely to easily pay back the borrowed money, no matter what industry you work in.

[hypothetically]

These low life providers make it almost impossible for good providers who might actually a little financial help to even hope for assistance. Once burned twice shy.

 

...or, you the client, who has twice the life experience as the majority of the providers should be...idk, LESS NAIVE.

[Vegasguy]

A lot of scam artists in the escort industry. Yes I learned the hard way too never prepay.

Stay away from Fitfever and ViktorD on Rentmen. Two of the worst. They take advantage of gay men

https://rent.men/Fitfever

https://rent.men/ViktorD

 

Fitfever actually threatened me with blackmail if I didn’t give him the money before hand. He said and I quote “Don’t F**k with me dude.” Real nice huh?

[Edward]

I gave him the money because I thought he was in need. I knew I would probably never get it back. Yes I could afford to do it. But answering with lol left me a little insulted.

[Gymowner]

And one more thing guys. A legit escort would offer to set up an additional session so he wouldn't have to ask to borrow the money. "So and so... I'm really in a jam financially and need money quickly. Can I ask a favor? Can we schedule a session in the next day or so so I will be able to pay my bill"?

 

That would be a legit person asking for a legit way to make, not borrow quick cash.

 

Guys... please, please, please read this and learn the lessons from those who have already made these mistakes. And if you are so smitten, so "in love" with the said escort, stop and go directly to a shrink and figure out why you have such a need to be dumped on. Makes it sound like the woman who writes, then falls in love with the inmate in prison.

Edited November 2, 2018 by Gymowner

[Floridasexman]

Sorry guys but again scratching my head here. Not trying to put anyone down yet we all have to grow up here and be smart about it. Generosity is fine. If he asked for the money..GIVE it to him no questions asked. If you cant afford that when he asks to borrow money tell him "better yet let's have an extra session on x and you can leave with that money after the session".

 

My regular who has moved recently lost a day job he had. Somewhat bummed out knowing money would be tight till he left. I said "I have an idea. Let's get together twice a week instead of once a week till you leave". Helped him out financially and no need to ever ask me to borrow any money (this is a great guy and I highly doubt he would have ever asked in the first place).

 

Benelovency is an awesome thing. Give freely and generously when someone is in need. Setting up a situation to be taken advantage of is another.

I would to find someone I could do that with. Just been burned but there has to be some honest, nice guys out there.

[Gymowner]

Florida, yes there are good guys out there. The good ones will put the "onus" on themselves and trying to find a way to earn the money. Not "borrow" which really means "give it to me".

[+ Seaninsf]

Sorry you had this experience @Edward. I hear my fellow forum members who warn against "lending" money to providers, which seems like a pretty reasonable practice. It's unfortunate the provider chose not to repay you. But to me, the more egregious behavior is, what seems to be, the disdain with which he responded to your text ("lol"). Clearly he is a provider who does not have respect for his clients - especially disappointing because you'd seen him several times prior.

 

If the primary purpose of this forum is to share information about providers - singing the praises of the good guys and calling out the bad ones, it seems appropriate that you call this individual out by name so that we don't unwittingly spend our dollars for services from an individual who lacks respect for his clients and common decency. I wouldn't want to unknowingly hire someone who'd treated someone so poorly.

[wearytraveller]

An escort I have hired a few times texted me and asked to barrow $500. I sent it to him no questions asked. I have been in tight spots $ in my younger days and no place to turn. He thanked me when he received it and said I may have to take it out in trade. I was setting up our next appointment I asked if this one was prepaid. ( the usual fee for our two hours is $500) The only response I received was lol. It was like him saying "I took you sucker."

 

With all the fake adds, scams, attitudes and talk of chemistry, I say to myself "why bother?".

 

This is may be kind of naïve of me … but if you've hired this guy a couple of times before and there was enough of a connection for him to ask and for you to lend the $500 could "lol" mean "lol, of course its prepaid!" instead of "lol, I took you sucker"?

[marylander1940]

An escort I have hired a few times texted me and asked to barrow $500. I sent it to him no questions asked. I have been in tight spots $ in my younger days and no place to turn. He thanked me when he received it and said I may have to take it out in trade. I was setting up our next appointment I asked if this one was prepaid. ( the usual fee for our two hours is $500) The only response I received was lol. It was like him saying "I took you sucker."

 

With all the fake adds, scams, attitudes and talk of chemistry, I say to myself "why bother?".

 

Sorry about your experience.

 

Sad to her he would do such a thing and therefore lose money from future appointments.

[DavidMore]

Wow:(

[+ glutes]

History repeats itself, again:

 

https://m4m-forum.org/threads/mini-driver-up-front-broken-nose.76447/

[GTMike]

Tough one for sure. I think it really really depends on your situation and have to honestly assess your specific relationship.

 

I'm prolly way in the minority as over the past few years, i've "lent/advanced/given" cash to three gentlemen on more than a handful of occassions. Two of the three always kept up their promise and later either paid back the cash in full and/or treated it as prepaid services no problems. The other sometimes did but on balance did not. I wish i had avoided and was smarter and tougher. But I'm confident he didn't intentionally not fulfill his promises, not so much because he wanted to scam and hustle, but really because of other life choices he made and would get himself in dicey situations and really felt he couldn't afford to pay me back.

[+ Keith30309]

I’ve loaned money to three escorts to whom I had gotten close and it turned out badly two times. I still see the third guy, 23, and he was vigilant about reminding me of his debt the next time we met.

 

I’ve loaned money to a few Seekingarrangement guys and it’s gone ok but that’s a different situation.

[Smurof]

What you could have done, although hindsight is 20 / 20, is schedule and appointment and then at the end tell him since you pre-paid, we're good now. What could he do? It's not like he can get mad, as you've already given the donation ahead of time.

 

I learned the hard way in the employment world to never, ever loan money. I was fired for reporting a co-worker to my boss for not paying a $100 loan back, even after she hit a $2,000 casino jackpot 2 months after I gave her the money. Turns out the reason she wasn't reprimanded at all was because she was sleeping with my boss!

[rvwnsd]

An escort I have hired a few times texted me and asked to barrow $500. I sent it to him no questions asked. I have been in tight spots $ in my younger days and no place to turn. He thanked me when he received it and said I may have to take it out in trade. I was setting up our next appointment I asked if this one was prepaid. ( the usual fee for our two hours is $500) The only response I received was lol. It was like him saying "I took you sucker."

 

With all the fake adds, scams, attitudes and talk of chemistry, I say to myself "why bother?".

I don't loan money to people. When my brother and his wife were in need of money after both had lost their jobs and were exhausting savings while looking for new jobs I gave them $500 and asked them to send me a grocery list so I could buy it online and have it delivered.

 

I would have suggested to the escort that we simply book a two-hour appointment. No need to loan or borrow.