Yukon21

Agree! And it’s about the position, generally I prefer to ride it if it’s a big one because I can be in control of the pace and depth, at least initially. 
In some cases small dicks can be difficult. I had a client who was quite overweight and his dick was small, I guess around 2 inches? He’d booked a massage and wanted to top me during the massage. This is fairly unusual because if clients do want an escort type session they’re usually bottom….(or they turn into a bottom on the day 😂)
My client hadn’t mentioned anything about his size (dick or body) when booking so I was surprised when he turned up as he was really large and I wondered how he’d fit on the table. He seemed quite anxious and shy so I tried to make him relaxed and we started with a cuddle before he got on the table.
Fortunately my table is quite wide and electrically adjustable (I can raise and lower it using a foot pad) so I lowered it a bit for him to get on see that he fits ok. I then raise it up to the correct height (where my crotch is beside his hand at his side  😉) and we begin the massage with him face down on the table. 
With larger guys it can be quite challenging to get to certain areas and I find that this guy’s no different. Even with his legs spread to the width of the table I couldn’t easily massage his bum hole or dick and balls.
After a while I ask him to turn over to his back. As he turns I see he’s hard but it’s not very big. I’d planned to mount the table and ride him but I realise that might not be possible. I tried to get on the table from the side but it was difficult because there wasn’t much space either side of his waist to kneel, so I went to the legs end and knelt between his knees to suck him for a bit while I worked out how I was going to get him inside me. 
I did try cowboy but kneeling on the table meant I had to squeeze his waist in either side and that caused his cock to disappear into the flesh so I couldn’t get it in me. We tried a couple of times and just managed to get it in but as soon as I started to ride it fell out. So I lowered the table right down and stood on the floor either side of the table. This was ok as he did get in but with my legs so far apart and his belly in the way it wasn’t comfortable. I then turned around to face away from him which was better but still challenging to keep it in. 
I thought it best to ask him if there was a position he preferred but he said he didn’t know. I’m guessing he’d not had sex before… so I suggested that I lay across the table on my back, he stand at the side and I lift my legs. I’d thought I could put my legs on his shoulders but that didn’t give him enough depth…so for those familiar with yoga I assumed the ‘happy baby’ pose and that seemed to give him enough space to get it in (he held up his belly with his hands) and it didn’t take long for him to cum which was fortunate because my happy baby isn’t a position I like to keep for too long 🙂. 
I was glad we managed to get there because he seemed delighted by the session. Nothing was said about his size by him or me. I think he was self conscious about it so I tried to make sure he knew it didn’t matter. Must be difficult for him wanting to top but facing those physical challenges. 
 


 

 


 

 

 

I usually get those kinds of texts from traveling providers. I appreciate the gesture of them informing me about their upcoming presence in my area. I adhere to the belief that it's wise not to sever ties unnecessarily, especially without valid cause.  My typical response is: "Thank you for the update regarding your visit to my area. However, I am not currently interested in hiring."

I thought they both mirrored each other???

Oh no! The deposit question 😱…
Here’s the answer: the provider decides his business model and the hirer decides whether or not to play it. You do you. The end. 

I have never noticed this before.  How are you determining that this is the case?  There are nearly 300 ads in San Francisco; I certainly don't have the patience to start a list based on one site and compare it to the other site to make sure they match exactly.  The only thing I can say is that I have noticed that sometimes the same person appears more than once in the list, giving the appearance that there are more distinct listings than there are.

All advertisements should be able to be viewed via both RentMen.eu and rent.men.  It is the member who posts on Company of Men who chooses whether to post the link from one website or the other.  I, too, prefer to view in RentMen.eu.  Therefore, when I click on a link to rent.men, I am in the habit of manually removing the middle "." and adding the ".eu" every time.

Had my second meeting with him yesterday.  This time he rushed thru the session because he said during our time he had another appointment scheduled to start at the same time mine should have ended.  He scheduled no time inbetween.  So he shorted my time, pushed me out quickly and was making the bed as he said goodbye.  This is the way he treated a repeat client. Buyer beware. I would not repeat after yesterday.   

Met him a few weeks ago.  I would repeat.  Engish is ok.  Always checking to make sure the experience is good.  Dick stayed hard and  is very nice but a little smaller than advertized.  Stamina is awesome.  Tops great.  Loves his dick sucked and actually had a nice load that he deposited on my chest at the end.   

Let’s see who needs this more, Jarrod or Trick
Jarrod:  Has been insisting on requiring deposits for sessions for years, but still always complains about flakes and time wasters.  Deposits haven’t solved his problem with flakes.  Always unhappy with his escorting experience.
 
Trick:  Has NEVER sent a deposit for years; has met the likes of Tristan Baldwin, Mike Gaite, Cade Maddox, and lots of other well-reviewed providers who don’t require deposits. Very happy with his hiring experience.
 
Who needs it more?

IMHE this is a bit wordy and your request for rates is buried at the end  where it will get overlooked. I would start out with something shorter like:
Hi- saw your Rentmen ad. What would you charge for a 2hr incall consult sometime Sat or Sunday in X city?

I won't pay a deposit to a provider I've never met in person. If a deposit is requested, I'll just move on to another provider.
It's more than fair to ask for a deposit given the challenges a provider faces. Those providers, however, just aren't for me. Am I missing out on a great provider because of that decision? Yes. And I'm okay with that because I'll always be able to hire a provider without paying a thing in advance.

My point is, I don’t care about the employees’ circumstances when picking a business. I find the business that suits me.
When hiring an escort, I don’t care about his circumstances, his hotel bills, or gas expenses.  I hire him to provide a service, I pay him at the rate he sets and I never haggle. It’s not my responsibility to keep flakes from ruining his business.  My responsibility is to be a good client and not be a flake. But I will NEVER send a deposit. 
 
 

The only solution for me is NOT TO GIVE ANYTHING UPFRONT.  It’s working for me and the providers I like.  Period.

I’ll just remind you that I’m the client here.  So I do what I like.  Why would I consider the other side when I’m happy with the side I’m on.  I don’t care about provider’s circumstances, that’s their problem.  I’ll pick the providers who run their business in the way that benefits me.

Welcome. And you've now heard from our single member who is pro deposit @Jarrod_Uncut 
I'm sure you'll hear (a LOT) more on the subject from him if you keep following this (endless) conversation.
 

No one likes flakes.
But gay men are notorious for sitting at home jerking off while talking about sex and then deciding not to leave the house once they dumped their load in their sock
 This happens on hook up apps and it happens to professionals. It's very frustrating.  But the consensus here is that the majority of men WILL pass you by if you insist on a deposit. Too many scams out there for too.many years have made everyone skittish about the concept of paying up front.
Sorry.

Welcome and please use the search feature on the site. You will find a huge amount of information about deposits.
99% against and one member here who insists that its reasonable.

of course, that designation is a promotion purchased by the advertiser.......reviews and past comment have nothing to do with it!! 😉

I get your comments about his rates but feel the market will take care of it.  If his rates are too high no one will hire him.  If he can get people to pay it then the market says hes worth it and good for him.  Besides being ridiculously high, I know of two people that have  hired him for an incall and wouldnt see him again if it was free.

I get your comments about his rates but feel the market will take care of it.  If his rates are too high no one will hire him.  If he can get people to pay it then the market says hes worth it and good for him.  Besides being ridiculously high, I know of two people that have  hired him for an incall and wouldnt see him again if it was free.

I get your comments about his rates but feel the market will take care of it.  If his rates are too high no one will hire him.  If he can get people to pay it then the market says hes worth it and good for him.  Besides being ridiculously high, I know of two people that have  hired him for an incall and wouldnt see him again if it was free.

I get your comments about his rates but feel the market will take care of it.  If his rates are too high no one will hire him.  If he can get people to pay it then the market says hes worth it and good for him.  Besides being ridiculously high, I know of two people that have  hired him for an incall and wouldnt see him again if it was free.

I get your comments about his rates but feel the market will take care of it.  If his rates are too high no one will hire him.  If he can get people to pay it then the market says hes worth it and good for him.  Besides being ridiculously high, I know of two people that have  hired him for an incall and wouldnt see him again if it was free.

You are correct. and also - you are fucking HOT man.  Get that bag, and ignore the faceless trolls.  They are jealous for real. 

@Jarrod_UncutOne again the way you are ranting and raving over this subject, points to why you're struggling in this business.   I've said it before and I'll say it again, if your posts on here in any way reflect the way you communicate and treat potential clients, then it's no wonder clients ghost you or stand you up.