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    HoleTrainer got a reaction from Jarrod_Uncut in 1 strike rule for prospects who don’t pan out?   
    Honestly in my opinion it is OK to block someone with only one strike if they truly annoy you.  For any reason whatsoever.  Including no reason.  In fact it’s a lot less damaging to your overall business to block a single person than it is to get resentful about the process of trying to communicate about a booking.
    Personally, when someone messages me outside of my preferred hours with a last minute booking request I know I can’t accommodate, I wait until later to respond, as any conversation I engage them with while they’re horny now is not likely to be relevant tomorrow.  So if someone messages me at 11:30pm asking if I can come over (I’m usually in bed by 9 or 10), even if I see the message, I’ll wait until I’m having tea at 6:30am to send my response- that sorry- I was already asleep- but I am available today from X to Y time if they’re still interested in getting together.  This tends to work out well for me as they usually do not even respond if they’re not interested.  And sometime they are and they book.
    In fact, delayed responses are a major strategy of mine to cut down on time wasting and frustration overall in the booking process.  One issue we as providers deal with that locksmiths are NOT dealing with is that many people get off on talking to us.  Whether they’re real clients or not, time spent in conversation with us is part of the experience they enjoy and are paying us for.  Or not paying us for, in the case of a true time-waster.  If someone is annoying me via text or trying to engage in too much detailed conversation when we’ve never met and I’m not sure if we will, I heavily delay my responses and it helps a lot.  I’ll wait until I don’t feel annoyed (even if it takes 9 hours) to type a response that gently redirects the conversation back to where I need it to go.
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    HoleTrainer reacted to Gymowner in Will you pay a deposit to a stranger?   
    So if an escort is not reviewed and asks for a deposit is it your position to not go ahead with the deposit? If noone takes "the risk" to deposit beforehand then there will never be any reviews thus no amount of research beforehand will be fruitful.
    Which comes first... the chicken or the egg?
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    HoleTrainer got a reaction from big-n-tall in Will you pay a deposit to a stranger?   
    Your original post that I replied to did not make this distinction clearly and if it did I would have responded differently.  Thanks for clarifying.
  4. Confused
    HoleTrainer got a reaction from + Pensant in Will you pay a deposit to a stranger?   
    So you refused to show these guys the respect of complying with their requested deposit policy because you assumed before you even met them that they were trying to scam you and then you’re surprised that you didn’t have a good experience with them??  Gee, I wonder why... talk about starting things off on a sour note!  They went thru with the appointments with you because they NEEDED the money badly enough to see someone who refused to honor their booking policy.  There is absolutely no way anyone is walking into that situation giving their best performance.  If you want an escort’s best performance, you need to comply with their booking policies and show respect during 100% of the appointment booking proceeds.  Assuming that a professional is trying to scam you is disrespectful as hell.  You may get away with it but obviously you’re not going to get the best experience out of it.
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    HoleTrainer got a reaction from josh282282 in Will you pay a deposit to a stranger?   
    If a client has had a bad experience with getting scammed out of a deposit in the past, he should have the maturity to understand that he did not do his research on that particular service provider well enough.  Deciding to never pay a deposit to any sex worker ever again because you got scammed by someone you did not research properly IS inherently disrespectful to me.  End of story.
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    HoleTrainer got a reaction from josh282282 in Will you pay a deposit to a stranger?   
    So you refused to show these guys the respect of complying with their requested deposit policy because you assumed before you even met them that they were trying to scam you and then you’re surprised that you didn’t have a good experience with them??  Gee, I wonder why... talk about starting things off on a sour note!  They went thru with the appointments with you because they NEEDED the money badly enough to see someone who refused to honor their booking policy.  There is absolutely no way anyone is walking into that situation giving their best performance.  If you want an escort’s best performance, you need to comply with their booking policies and show respect during 100% of the appointment booking proceeds.  Assuming that a professional is trying to scam you is disrespectful as hell.  You may get away with it but obviously you’re not going to get the best experience out of it.
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    HoleTrainer got a reaction from Lazarus in Will you pay a deposit to a stranger?   
    There’s a major difference between escorts and physicians.  Their work isn’t criminalized. Ours is.  Physicians have recourse to report unpaid fees to credit collection agencies.  We do not.  Comparing apples and oranges here.
    Business is supply and demand.  If you don’t want to pay a deposit or Uber fare, then don’t.  Plenty of other clients will.  Most of whom are not reading this board because they’re too busy making money and spending it to care what other men think about how they choose to do so.
  8. Like
    HoleTrainer got a reaction from lonely_john in 1 strike rule for prospects who don’t pan out?   
    Honestly in my opinion it is OK to block someone with only one strike if they truly annoy you.  For any reason whatsoever.  Including no reason.  In fact it’s a lot less damaging to your overall business to block a single person than it is to get resentful about the process of trying to communicate about a booking.
    Personally, when someone messages me outside of my preferred hours with a last minute booking request I know I can’t accommodate, I wait until later to respond, as any conversation I engage them with while they’re horny now is not likely to be relevant tomorrow.  So if someone messages me at 11:30pm asking if I can come over (I’m usually in bed by 9 or 10), even if I see the message, I’ll wait until I’m having tea at 6:30am to send my response- that sorry- I was already asleep- but I am available today from X to Y time if they’re still interested in getting together.  This tends to work out well for me as they usually do not even respond if they’re not interested.  And sometime they are and they book.
    In fact, delayed responses are a major strategy of mine to cut down on time wasting and frustration overall in the booking process.  One issue we as providers deal with that locksmiths are NOT dealing with is that many people get off on talking to us.  Whether they’re real clients or not, time spent in conversation with us is part of the experience they enjoy and are paying us for.  Or not paying us for, in the case of a true time-waster.  If someone is annoying me via text or trying to engage in too much detailed conversation when we’ve never met and I’m not sure if we will, I heavily delay my responses and it helps a lot.  I’ll wait until I don’t feel annoyed (even if it takes 9 hours) to type a response that gently redirects the conversation back to where I need it to go.
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    HoleTrainer got a reaction from josh282282 in Will you pay a deposit to a stranger?   
    There’s a major difference between escorts and physicians.  Their work isn’t criminalized. Ours is.  Physicians have recourse to report unpaid fees to credit collection agencies.  We do not.  Comparing apples and oranges here.
    Business is supply and demand.  If you don’t want to pay a deposit or Uber fare, then don’t.  Plenty of other clients will.  Most of whom are not reading this board because they’re too busy making money and spending it to care what other men think about how they choose to do so.
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    HoleTrainer got a reaction from Mjonis in Did my sub get scared? Why do they...   
    Sexting and meeting IRL are two completely different modes of expression and different people will be into each of them.  If it is your goal to find someone to meet with IRL, then yes, OP, you WOULD be better off asking them to meet for lunch right off the bat.  That way, if meeting IRL isn’t their thing, you’ll know immediately, before you invest a bunch of time and energy into a digital relationship with someone who never plans to actually meet you.
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    HoleTrainer got a reaction from handiacefailure in Did my sub get scared? Why do they...   
    Sexting and meeting IRL are two completely different modes of expression and different people will be into each of them.  If it is your goal to find someone to meet with IRL, then yes, OP, you WOULD be better off asking them to meet for lunch right off the bat.  That way, if meeting IRL isn’t their thing, you’ll know immediately, before you invest a bunch of time and energy into a digital relationship with someone who never plans to actually meet you.
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    HoleTrainer got a reaction from Rod Hagen in Appropriate time for details   
    For me, the appropriate time to discuss details is once we have established that date/time/location/rate are a match.  I don’t need to hear the details of your fetishes or past sexual experiences before we even check if the logistics are going to work.  I may give guys who message me with lots of details about their sexual interests before discussing a date and time the benefit of the doubt, technically, but it is a major yellow warning flag and starts our interaction off on the wrong foot.
    I’ll usually ask for details myself once we’ve confirmed a date and time.  I’ll usually frame it by asking about their experience level with my niche and asking if there’s anything specific that they’re excited to explore together.  I do very much want to know these details going into our meeting so that I can mentally prep and tailor the experience as much as possible.
    I like phone calls a lot.  I feel like I can get a much better idea of what our chemistry is going to be like in 30 seconds on the phone vs an hour texting.  Can’t beat the efficiency.
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    HoleTrainer got a reaction from italianboyph in 1 strike rule for prospects who don’t pan out?   
    Honestly in my opinion it is OK to block someone with only one strike if they truly annoy you.  For any reason whatsoever.  Including no reason.  In fact it’s a lot less damaging to your overall business to block a single person than it is to get resentful about the process of trying to communicate about a booking.
    Personally, when someone messages me outside of my preferred hours with a last minute booking request I know I can’t accommodate, I wait until later to respond, as any conversation I engage them with while they’re horny now is not likely to be relevant tomorrow.  So if someone messages me at 11:30pm asking if I can come over (I’m usually in bed by 9 or 10), even if I see the message, I’ll wait until I’m having tea at 6:30am to send my response- that sorry- I was already asleep- but I am available today from X to Y time if they’re still interested in getting together.  This tends to work out well for me as they usually do not even respond if they’re not interested.  And sometime they are and they book.
    In fact, delayed responses are a major strategy of mine to cut down on time wasting and frustration overall in the booking process.  One issue we as providers deal with that locksmiths are NOT dealing with is that many people get off on talking to us.  Whether they’re real clients or not, time spent in conversation with us is part of the experience they enjoy and are paying us for.  Or not paying us for, in the case of a true time-waster.  If someone is annoying me via text or trying to engage in too much detailed conversation when we’ve never met and I’m not sure if we will, I heavily delay my responses and it helps a lot.  I’ll wait until I don’t feel annoyed (even if it takes 9 hours) to type a response that gently redirects the conversation back to where I need it to go.
  14. Haha
    HoleTrainer reacted to + BenjaminNicholas in Did my sub get scared? Why do they...   
    If math were this interesting in high school, I'd have been a much better student.
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    HoleTrainer got a reaction from + Charlie in Did my sub get scared? Why do they...   
    Sexting and meeting IRL are two completely different modes of expression and different people will be into each of them.  If it is your goal to find someone to meet with IRL, then yes, OP, you WOULD be better off asking them to meet for lunch right off the bat.  That way, if meeting IRL isn’t their thing, you’ll know immediately, before you invest a bunch of time and energy into a digital relationship with someone who never plans to actually meet you.
  16. Haha
    HoleTrainer reacted to CuriousByNature in Providers what are some essentials you carry for outcalls?   
    Sometimes my father walked a bit funny... I was always under the assumption it was arthritis in his hip, but maybe....?  LOL!
  17. Haha
    HoleTrainer got a reaction from CuriousByNature in Providers what are some essentials you carry for outcalls?   
    Maybe your mom was secretly a professional fisting top as well? 😜
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    HoleTrainer got a reaction from Whippoorwill in Overweight clients   
    Don’t forget that plenty of guys out there are into bigger guys too, including some escorts.
    One of my best friends is also an escort.  We go drinking together on our off time.  He loves bears and will usually be checking out one of the guys with the biggest belly in the room and telling me how hot he is.  (Sometimes I agree, sometimes not, as I’m more face-oriented.) He’d probably be more likely to hook up with a bigger guy for free than anyone else.  Just because that’s his preference.
    So my point is, guys who are bigger, don’t assume that all escorts are just being nice and putting up with you non-judgementally.  Plenty of us actually think you’re hot and that your body is a great body.  Being in this line of work tends to really open up our minds and teach us that all kinds of people can be very sexy.  Not everyone but a lot of us.
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    HoleTrainer got a reaction from TorontoTwink in Providers what are some essentials you carry for outcalls?   
    Maybe your mom was secretly a professional fisting top as well? 😜
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    HoleTrainer got a reaction from Mo Mason in Providers what are some essentials you carry for outcalls?   
    I recently got a nice leather duffel bag to start carrying for Outcalls.  I’m typically in sportswear or leather depending on the level of discretion needed, so this is the perfect intersection for me and I find it makes me look as tho I may simply be arriving back from the gym.  Mine is covered in FF logos which is maybe not so discreet, but I simply couldn’t resist! 🥰 I doubt the average vanilla will have any idea which “FF” the bag is alluding to tho.
    My typical outcall kit:
    polymer lube like j or k lube, pre-mixed in a sports bottle, sealed in a ziplock bag
    creamy lube like elbow grease, often in 4-6oz containers for single use
    small silicone lube for conditioning and slipping into latex gloves
    2-3 lengths of latex gloves, usually wrist and elbow length, sometimes bicep length if extreme depth is specified in inquiry
    (just added!) latex socks 😉
    disposable black nitrile gloves - 5 per baggie
    stainless steel prostate wand
    at least one small dildo (smaller than the circumference of my hand)
    silicone pig hole(s) in sizes ranging from smaller than my hand to larger than both my hands
    electrical box, electrical pads, electric butt plug
    poppers
    vaporizers with a few different cartridge options
    travel size mouthwash
    emory board
    bluetooth speaker
    (just added!) phone chargers for both iPhone and common android phones
    (if hotel) travel size blue dawn dish soap
    (just added) puppy pads
    (if hotel) Clorox wipes for easy cleanup and disinfection
    (if hotel) Perrier or Pellegrino to offer client
    (if multiple outcalls) rubbing alcohol spray to sanitize toys after washing, otherwise I do this step at home
    (sometimes) leather gear to change into on arrival
    (sometimes) wedge pillow to create lift under the hips when no sling is available
    empty plastic shopping bags for neat re-storage of used toys that still need to be washed/sanitized at home
     
    I’m always expanding my kit and looking for more things to add.  I’ve added a bunch of new things in the last few weeks so this was a fun thread for me to have an excuse to write out a whole list. 🥰
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    HoleTrainer got a reaction from + Pensant in Escort Market is HOT !   
    This is likely due to increased wages for the lowest wage workers who make those lunches.  Before the pandemic they may have been paying those workers $8-10 an hour depending on where you live, and now they might be paying them $15 an hour.  I do think we are going to see prices for anything that RELIES on low wage workers earning poverty wages increase as those poverty wages are bumped up to something more closely resembling a living wage.  As it should be...
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    HoleTrainer got a reaction from HungreeMunkee69 in Overweight clients   
    Don’t forget that plenty of guys out there are into bigger guys too, including some escorts.
    One of my best friends is also an escort.  We go drinking together on our off time.  He loves bears and will usually be checking out one of the guys with the biggest belly in the room and telling me how hot he is.  (Sometimes I agree, sometimes not, as I’m more face-oriented.) He’d probably be more likely to hook up with a bigger guy for free than anyone else.  Just because that’s his preference.
    So my point is, guys who are bigger, don’t assume that all escorts are just being nice and putting up with you non-judgementally.  Plenty of us actually think you’re hot and that your body is a great body.  Being in this line of work tends to really open up our minds and teach us that all kinds of people can be very sexy.  Not everyone but a lot of us.
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    HoleTrainer got a reaction from lonely_john in Escort Market is HOT !   
    This is likely due to increased wages for the lowest wage workers who make those lunches.  Before the pandemic they may have been paying those workers $8-10 an hour depending on where you live, and now they might be paying them $15 an hour.  I do think we are going to see prices for anything that RELIES on low wage workers earning poverty wages increase as those poverty wages are bumped up to something more closely resembling a living wage.  As it should be...
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    HoleTrainer reacted to mike carey in Escort Market is HOT !   
    https://rent.men/FFHoleWhisperer
    The profile link had been discussed in other threads.
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    HoleTrainer got a reaction from Luv2play in Escort Market is HOT !   
    This is likely due to increased wages for the lowest wage workers who make those lunches.  Before the pandemic they may have been paying those workers $8-10 an hour depending on where you live, and now they might be paying them $15 an hour.  I do think we are going to see prices for anything that RELIES on low wage workers earning poverty wages increase as those poverty wages are bumped up to something more closely resembling a living wage.  As it should be...
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