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On 4/9/2023 at 4:16 PM, DrownedBoy said:

You shouldn't.  At least not according to what I've seen.

I won't give exact numbers and names, but it seems like there's an unspoken racial hierarchy. Casually, I'd say, from highest to lowest:

1. Caucasian and light skinned Latino

2. Black and dark skinned Latno

3. Asian

Obviously, there are many other races and factors that go into it (muscle, looks, skills, personality). But I'd challenge anyone to say that Asian men are treated nicely on Grindr. Likewise, from conversations with providers, this seems to be how it is in the Midwest (California and New York are foreign countries to me).

In case anyone thinks I'm trying to start a fight,  I will give another confession from my past. Every high school has a pecking order, and I remember the racial order at mine was:

 

1. Northern European/Asian (there were very few of the last, but they tended to attend honors courses)

2. Chicago ethics (Italian , Irish, etc.).

3. Latinos / Black (again, very few of the latter)

4. Recent Eastern European immigrants 

For any  Black American masseurs or providers reading this, take it from me: do not charge less than white providers are charging. If you are in a territory where most of the hiring demographics  are racists, (which if they would try to pay you less because you are melanated, then they very much are) you aren’t going to book much in that location to make it worthwhile anyway no matter how much you lower your rates, so it’s a bad business decision to lower your rates. You are better off moving to a territory where men hire hot men regardless of race. ALSO, there is an abundance of men who will pay you top dollar BECAUSE you are hot AND Black! Those are the clients you want! Work smarter not harder! I have never accepted less than I deserved, and neither should you. Do not sell yourself short (pun intended) 
This is my last contribution to this forum but I wanted to leave this behind.

On 4/7/2023 at 8:18 AM, Shawn Monroe said:

A lot of these comments are reminding me why i stopped coming in here as much. 

Same!!!!

I am Black/mixed. Im only speaking for myself, but I have never charged below market  rates, and I have not, nor would I negotiate my rates. My philosophy is always if someone want to pay a lower rate, they should go for the guy with the lower rate. 🤷🏽‍♂️

I don’t tour at all anymore, but if I did, I would avoid a city with a big sports event. I can’t imagine that it’d be worthwhile.

On 2/14/2023 at 10:58 AM, Axiom2001 said:

For a good while, I've engaged the services of escorts.  Recently, I've been seeking permission to see the photos that are in the vault of some at RentMen.  Well, I've been rejected by some, for I am over 40.  My question to you is: as an escort, do you have an age limit as to the men you choose to meet for pleasure?

Up until this year, I've received this type of rejection.

I have no age limits. When I decline to take a client, it’s never due to age. 

I have not hired any, but there are a couple of providers who have hired me, so it definitely happens

I do not date clients. 

22 hours ago, arnemgreeves said:

I disagree. The unregulated nature of this makes it more problematic in escorting. Not all industries or vocations are alike. some industries value politness or specific kinds of conduct over others. Sure, people may call a florist for info on their prices and that's fine. But nobody would sex chat them, or text them for half-baked info, or send them dick pics, or ask them for refunds if they're hot, or text them out of hours to ask if they're working. Clients then should learn how to engage with escorts properly via text. That's wthin their power. Escorts would be less likely to be closed or "rude" in SMS discussions if they were not as fucked around by that medium. 

This!

On 1/28/2023 at 5:15 AM, Jamie21 said:

Most of the basic questions that get asked are already answered in the advert or website. It gets quite tiring to answer the same questions by text. 
I get “hi what’s your rate?”….”when are you available?”. I get a lot of messages like that. So sometimes the answer “please see my website” might seem curt, but it’s really just to avoid lengthy exchanges by text.

Also, if the first question is “what’s your rate” the likelihood is it’s too expensive for him. You learn to avoid wasting too much time on that kind of thing. 

This!

Im flying from Los Angeles to see a client in Ohio soon for a weekend. The last time I traveled by plane a few months ago, all of the flights were delayed by several hours on every airline to the point that I almost got stuck in Chicago on my way back to LA. If you have traveled by plane recently, are there still extreme delays? 

“Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil”

For me, the most challenging part was filtering through the time wasters and flakes.  Some cities have a higher concentration of that than other cities. I don’t have an active advertisement up anymore specifically because I did not want to deal with that part of the business anymore. When you don’t advertise and only see regulars, you know the regulars are reliable and you know they aren’t interested in wasting your time. 

No. 

It is not rude at all. Go for it!

Everything is better in Europe.

Swiss Navy

3 hours ago, handiacefailure said:

I heard the cops got fired years later after Dahlmer got arrested.  

The cops (John Balcerzak and  Joseph Gabrish) eventually did get fired for negligence, but they appealed their firing, and then Judge Robert Parins reinstated the 2 cops in 1994 because he felt that firing them was “too harsh” of a punishment, so they were rehired AND given a year’s salary in back pay. $55,000 each.  Balcerzak eventually became president of the Milwaukee Police Association and eventually retired in 2017….…sooo…no…there were no real consequences for them at all. At a minimum, they should never have been able to be police officers ever again. That boy (Konerak)  would still be alive if they hadn’t returned him to Dahmer.

On 9/28/2022 at 5:36 PM, handiacefailure said:

 

The second episode was really scary that the police allowed an obviously drugged kid that was 14 that didn't look 19 to go back to his apartment with him and that they didn't investigate the smell.   

 

Not only that, but the boy was bleeding, drugged, and obviously underage  according to the neighbors who called the police, and the police escorted the boy back to Dahmer where Dahmer went on to kill him shortly after. And those cops were never held accountable. Absolutely Infuriating!

Not amazing, but it was okay. I think it’s still worth a watch if for no other reason than to show why he was able to get away with it for so long, and it tells the stories of his victims and the witnesses. 

3 hours ago, big-n-tall said:

Exactly, my experience as well. It couldn't be helped at the time when I booked for the provider. The airline wasn't offering any direct flights so he had to get a return with a layover. It was delayed hours. He was supposed to be home by 6pm. He got back by 2am and almost missed work.

Recently something similar happened to a friend on American.

Yes! It’s happening on pretty much every airline. I was supposed to be home by 6:00 pm but didn’t get home until midnight. At one point I thought I might get stuck in Chicago because the first flight was so delayed I thought I might miss the connecting flight, but the connecting flight was significantly delayed as well. 

Just a heads up to other masseurs and providers who are traveling by plane right now. If a client is flying you in, I highly recommend that you ask your client to book direct flights as opposed to connecting flights. I just got back  from a weekend trip and almost every flight is delayed by several hours right now. 

1 hour ago, Jamie21 said:

Yes I agree. You’ll get a better massage usually from someone who’s first a masseur than from someone who’s an escort and is doing massage to pad out the time. Masseurs are invested in giving massage so that’s their focus. Of course they’re good at massage, and the sensual elements and will go to intimate areas then your massage will be arousing and seductive, and your masseur will ensure it includes an appropriate climax. 

THIS

What’s done in the dark always comes to light, so don’t lie about it because the truth will it reveal itself whether you want it to or not. Always be honest, and if someone  is not comfortable with what you do, then they are not the right person for you at this time in your life.

Someone who snores doesn’t bother me. I’m a deep sleeper usually, so I just keep sleeping. 

The truth is that they do it because they don’t respect you, your time, or what you do, and they get off on interacting with you.  They take advantage of any time and attention you’ll give away to them because they  have no intention of booking  you, and they will not be able to interact with you outside of any time and attention you’ll give to them for free. It’s  the reality and one of the worst, if not the worst parts of this business. What you’ll learn though is that there are patterns, and it is pretty easy to identify  people who are serious about booking and people who are not serious. Learn how to Identify those people who are clearly going to try and waste your time, and stop engaging with them.  They can only waste a lot of your time if you let them.